User talk:Steve Quinn/Archive 1

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Practical issues
I appreciate your decision to edit under your real name, but advise to stop using the old account. Materialscientist (talk) 05:33, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * During the move, several things are being settled, such as watchlist, your pages, contributions, etc. At some stage it might look like its broken, but everything will be restored later - it takes time to update the database. Commons will not synchronize with renaming at all. If you want your today's edits to be counted, better edit under new name. If this doesn't matter, choose whatever account is more functional. After things settle (took minutes in my case), better abandon the old account. If you don't want anyone to take it in the future, you can recreate it and leave unused. Materialscientist (talk) 06:10, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No need to worry now. After a couple of days, if you can still login to your old account, then it is yours. Materialscientist (talk) 06:25, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Metamaterial
With your last addition there you have obliterated my typo fixes (perhaps you're editing off-line a previous version). No big deal, but be careful. Materialscientist (talk) 03:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Gee, I saw, no need to reply :-) Materialscientist (talk) 03:10, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Notability
Robert Sproull: Head of Materials Science Center at Cornell, founder of DARPA, president of the University of Rochester, Chairman of the Defense Science Board, member of the Roundtable Council of the National Academy of Sciences - that all is more than enough for WP notability.

List of Cornell Manhattan Project people. Well, many lists have rather questionable value, but this one contains famous people, relates to the famous Manhattan Project, and is referenced to WP:reliable sources - my Afd experience tells me it wouldn't pass there. IMO, staying with mainframe articles (editing) is much more rewarding and interesting than getting into technical areas such as Afd. Materialscientist (talk) 11:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * First, I appreciate all that you do for Wikipedia and take your review of the articles as constructive comment. I have expanded the introduction to the List of Cornell Manhattan Project people and hope it meets your concerns. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 13:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Renaming
Strange. I was also renamed during editing and that very last edit was saved under the old name, but with no other glitches. Wikipedia tech channels are useful. I have experience that someone fixed my persistent image problems in no time, wrote a script for my future pics, and set it up at his server .. I don't use IRC, but if I can help with anything, just drop a note. Materialscientist (talk) 05:35, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Particle physics experiments
Hi. The section "Accelerator interaction overview" should be on a separate page of its own. Article starts with the sentence: "Particle physics experiments briefly discusses a number of past, present, and proposed experiments with particle accelerators. These particle accelerators are or could be located throughout the world." From this I (as a reader) understand that this article will be some sort of a list. The last section does not fit in.

Furthermore, there are many PP experiments around the world, I hope this article does not blow up.Erkcan (talk) 09:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Links to Google books
I do it this way:
 * Go to http://books.google.com/advanced_book_search and find a book
 * Copy the "core" (the part berfore first & sign), e.g. http://books.google.com/books?id=BHjxH8q9iukC
 * add, e.g., &pg=PA20 (& is a separator for tags in their string; PA is page, e.g. PA1 but check it before posting, as some books have weird page numbering)

I've read your email, but leave particle physics to others. I refereed electron, and there were several strong people around that article. They are European, thus might be asleep now. Materialscientist (talk) 03:59, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Periodicity (metamaterials)
Sorry to say, but the article has numerous problems and I would hide it back into sandbox and replace with a redirect to one of the metamaterial articles. It is too essay-ish, does not correspond to the title, and yet too unshaped to suggest a new title (it is not about periodicity, but about interaction of light with (meta)materials). Some formulations are too loose for a science article: "massless messenger", "handedness" (it usually refers to rotation of polarization), etc. That said, nice to see your progress in physics. Materialscientist (talk) 05:52, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I updated image stack at User:Steve_Quinn/sub_page_3. Let me know if you want to change something in the figures - that is easy. Materialscientist (talk) 05:43, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: IP:69.122.111.146
I was off-line. That IP was blocked for 1 year as an open proxy (meaning anyone could connect through that address). Materialscientist (talk) 08:03, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Category:Alternate Wikipedia accounts of Steve Quinn
See Categories for discussion/Log/2009 December 26. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:29, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Steve, I'm not knowledgeable in this issue, but my current understanding is that if you logged into your old account after renaming, this means that account is taken by yourself. Thus you can clearly mention on your userpage that you have two accounts, and there is no need for that category. I see it as a housekeeping cleanup matter and would leave to a bureaucrat to decide. Let me know if I'm missing something. Materialscientist (talk) 04:36, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Physics redirect
I have nominated physics redirect for renaming to physics redirects. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 14:24, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Homogeneity (ecology)
I tried to brush up that article. Some facts there were well supported by refs, but there were (and are) speculations. I can sense speculations in such topics, but can't really rewrite the article - a specialist should do that. As to you getting distracted from metamaterials, I'll tell this: I used to go through changes in my watchlist early in the morning; now I get there only by late afternoon, even on a usual day :). It probably took me hours to get to this article (can't really tell :) Materialscientist (talk) 08:13, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Re:Al2O3
is also known as alumina or sapphire. As a single crystal, it is similar to quartz - transparent, hard, chemically inert, electrically insulating material with high thermal conductivity - good in most respects, but expensive. Much cheaper is its polycrystalline ceramics, which is white due to light scattering. It is also heat resistant and often used for crucibles and alike. Materialscientist (talk) 04:06, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Instrumentation and Control Engineering
You said:This article appears to need to cite sources and references. This article has a good start and I like the material presented here. It seems like a good idea for an article. Steve Quinn (formerly Ti-30X) (talk) 07:14, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * what it needs is to be rewritten. It is a copy of a particular institution's web page, which is not permitted., & has been deleted accordingly. Furthermore, we almost never have articles on individual university departments. An proper article on the subject would be another matter if you care to write one. DGG ( talk ) 19:22, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the offer. First I have a question. Would this article end up being duplication of Control engineering and Instrumentation? What is your opinion? Steve Quinn (formerly Ti-30X) (talk) 22:59, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * See ; iy seems to be an academic field, at least,and could be discussed briefly as such. The society by that name is a new one, and local to India, & I think not yet notable. But  it looks like those articles you linked to need to be expanded  and if your are interested in the subject, that would seem the most valuable thing to do.    DGG ( talk ) 00:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: crystallographic orientation
Eh. It is easier to explain than to find a nearest WP article on this. Consider, some crystal, say salt. Its (100) surface is parallel to the cube planes; it has 4 bonds per unit length sticking out of the surface at 90º (well, not exactly 4, but lets forget sharing of atoms between neighbor cells - it doesn't matter here how to count bonds). Its (110) surface is obtained if we cut the cube by a vertical plane, though a diagonal of the cubic face, that is vertically, through white atoms. On such surface, we've got 8/1.41 bonds (2 per each atom) sticking at 45º. The (111) surface is obtained by cutting perpendicular to the longest diagonal of the cube. Thus, for these 3 basic surfaces we have different number of broken bonds per unit area, different bond angles (vs. the surface), and the surface atoms have different number of backbone atoms. This changes all surface properties of bulk crystals. The (practical, rather than theoretical) difference with nanocrystals is that they are small. Thus when a slab effectively has one surface, a particle shows its all facets, which very rarely have same orientation - usually many different ones. More crucial, however, is that real nanoparticles have distorted shapes, that is their surfaces are far from ideal. Materialscientist (talk) 06:53, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Re:AWB
I have some experience with it, but not an expert. To start with: (i) I look at the changes it made and don't save them is those are minor - not to clutter the edit history and someones watchlists; I also don't put some tags; like "orphan" (ii) In "options", "normal settings", I add a set of my personal replacements; then "file" "save settings" and those are saved for another session. (iii) you can copy the output of AWB into another text editor, continue fixing other problems and then save in a usual WP window or copy back to AWB. Materialscientist (talk) 10:26, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
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Dab "Beeckman"
Thanks for your effort on Beeckman. Unfortunately, User:Life of Riley probably misled you by mentioning Dab'n in their edit summary. Surname pages get only the surname tag, and don't (unlike Dab'n pages) become descendants of Category:Disambiguation (which inherit it via disambig and thence via Category:Disambiguation pages -- in fact, no main-namespace pages get Category:Disambiguation tags). Despite their superficial resemblances to Dabs, surname and given-name pages are not Dabs at all, but instances of SIAs. Thanks again. --Jerzy•t 08:02, 9 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for informing me, I appreciate it, and I will keep it mind the next time I come across this situation. Steve Quinn (formerly Ti-30X) (talk) 22:57, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Tectonic weapon
I've removed the 7-day delete template which was inserted for a second time by User:Steve Quinn from Tectonic weapon. The template clearly says "If this template is removed, it should not be replaced". I have added to the article and discussed it in detail in the Talk page. If you think that it should be deleted please trigger the normal deletion process, with discussion. Do remember that the article, though somewhat expanded, is no more than an initial stub; we are discussing whether the article should exist, not whether it is reasonably complete or polished (which it isn't). As there are several people involved, maybe better to discuss this in the article's discussion rather than here. For the benefit of anyone who sees this comment, I'm not trying to say that these weapons actually exist, simply that the topic is notable. Best wishes Pol098 (talk) 18:42, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I had already prod'ed an earlier version of the article, and the user contested this, improving the article in the process. If you still think the article is a candidate for deletion, then you need to submit it to WP:AfD. Thanks,  caknuck °  needs to be running more often  18:50, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

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Anons
Its not that easy: imagine an obsessed individual, who hops on AOL by resetting his modem, follows you personally everywhere on WP and reverts your edits - its not a fantasy but real case (others are obsessed with articles though). What's worse is that some are so freaked that they travel and use every ISP around. Materialscientist (talk) 05:50, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't realize that was happening. Hopefully, this is not a common occurance. Have solutions been found? Steve Quinn (formerly Ti-30X) (talk) 05:55, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Some of those are well known and easily recognized, they are quick-blocked by individual IPs. Sometimes range blocked for a short time. I don't actually do RCP, I just monitor my long watch list and WP:AIV board. My reverts and blocks are manual, don't use bots or automated tools. Materialscientist (talk) 06:17, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Ehrenfeucht-Mycielski Sequence speedy deletion declined
Hello, I did not delete this as it is not nonsense-- just math. The link reference supports the content and a Google search reveals it has been written about a few times. Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  06:38, 9 March 2010 (UTC).

Straw poll: talk page notice at Talk:Black hole
Very witty and very funny response. LOL! Steve Quinn (formerly Ti-30X) (talk) 06:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Glad you appreciated it. :) 70.29.210.242 (talk) 06:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

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Re-read history
Please re-read the history of the SETI article. The edit did not report you as a vandal; instead, the page was actually reverted to your version. The vandal was actually IP address 65.175.139.18, whom I reported to admins and who is currently blocked for excessive vandalism. Sorry for the inconvenience. I had a similar experience, so I felt that way before. I used the WP:Twinkle feature, which you can set on your preferences. --Twinsday 02:18, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

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Comments about Chingri Malaicurry
Hi Steve, I understand that you wanted me to reference sources regarding my edit to the article on Chingri Malai curry. I made the edits based on my experience and not on any borrowed knowledge. It is a traditional recipe which is an integral part of the culture and city I grew up in. Hence I am not sure how to cite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Payelbasu (talk • contribs) 00:54, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for contacting me regarding your edit. Looking at the article, it seems to be a generalized description of this dish. My suggestion for the moment is to read the references in the article and see if your additions are in the content of those references. I think with any dish there is a generalized description by which it is recognized, then there are local and regional variations. It is the generalized description that would be considered encyclopedic.
 * Let me know if you have any luck with the article references. If not then try to find something written down and published and we can go from there. Likewise, if you don't find anything let me know and we can go from there as well. I placed a "Welcome" template to your page so you can get more ideas about how to edit on Wikipedia. ---Steve Quinn (talk)

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hi, i have provided the source. iam not posting any wrong info. thanq :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thejdeep (talk • contribs) 05:24, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

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It looks like your last response to JFG (and his subsequent thanks) should
be repositioned above my question to you:


 * re "concluded": where in the citation did it state that US Intel Agencies "concluded"? I see "The U.S. Intelligence Community is confident …"; thx Humanengr (talk) 03:53, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

[I didn't want you to miss my question, thx]


 * I think the repositioning is a good idea. And, I won't be able to get to your question right now. Thanks. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 05:20, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

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Discussion at Articles for deletion/Steve Lacy (musician) (2nd nomination)
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Bach concertos
I would like to see List of concertos by Johann Sebastian Bach moved back to Concerto (Bach), for the reasons I gave here, i.e. because it is rather intended (although not yet completed) as an overview page than as a list page, and by analogy to the names of similar pages: Suite (Bach), Church cantata (Bach). --Francis Schonken (talk) 19:08, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * thanks for contacting. Let me take a closer look at the situation. Truthfully, I am not well versed in Classical Music or Classical Music articles on Wikipedia. But, now, I see what you are saying. I will comment further later. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. You might have a good point here. Steve Quinn (talk) 19:15, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * it seems I made a mistake by removing the speedy tag from the redirect. It seems to me you are the only one actively engaged in the move, so technically it would be an uncontested speedy delete of that redirect page. I am sorry that I misunderstood - but I did finally figure it out. I have no problem with the move. So, I will add back the speedy delete tag as a prelude to the uncontested move. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 19:38, 10 July 2017‎ (UTC).

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Franz Lidz
My name is Franz Lidz. For the last 40 years I have worked as a professional journalist. I spent 27 of those years as a senior writer for Sports Illustrated. For the the last five, I have been a columnist for Smithsonian magazine. I am also -- concurrently -- Vice President of Communications of the Detroit Pistons, an NBA franchise owned by Palace Sports & Entertainment. All of these inarguable facts can easily be verified in the External Links section of my Wikipedia page. (For instance, the Sports Illustrated resource search opens to my current bio, which is scrupulously maintained by my longtime employer: https://www.si.com/vault-authors/franz-lidz I’m still a contributor to that magazine). Similarly, the Smithsonian magazine resource search has catalogued my columns - sometimes with additional biographical material - since my hiring in 2012. Both full-time jobs have long been listed on my Wikipedia page.That is, until yesterday, when an editor changed one job title from columnist to "published magazine article writer” and the other to “former vice president.” I should note here that I rarely pay much attention to my page unless a Wikipedia user alerts me to mischief by other users. But yesterday was different. Yesterday morning a college professor sent me a distressing email about what he termed "vandalism and trolling" on the Talk page of my entry. At the time, I wasn't exactly sure where the Talk page was, but when found it, I was horrified. Copy had been mangled, misinformation inserted and aspersions cast on my character and integrity. For reasons I can only guess at, over the last few days one editor implied that I lied at a reading I gave before several hundred people, and that if I hadn't, I should have. (In a subsequent post, he frantically walked back this theory, but the damage has already been done and his biases baldly revealed). In another exchange, the college professor mentioned that he teaches my oeuvre ito his students, prompting another editor to snark, "I look forward to the invitation I am sure will be coming from you shortly to look over your course material and help you improve it." (In the magazine world, we call this "open contempt" for a subject - not the sort of neutral attitude WP encourages in its editors, is it?) By tacking a couple of demeaning templates onto the first page of the entry, that same editor implicated me, my family, close friends and a onetime Bloomsbury U.S.A.publishing flak in a vast conspiracy to insert my name into pretty much every Wikipedia story ever written. OK, I'm overstating things, but the notion of any conspiracy between me and people close to me (let alone "paid" by me) is as insulting as it is preposterous. (I have no idea who's responsible for the pranks, but pinning the blame on a dead Bloomsbury publicist is probably the wrong way to go. BTW, Bloomsbury delisted the book in question in 2011, at which point the paperback rights were sold to Penguin, which doesn't plan to market it the anniversary of the event, in 2024. Tell me - Why would Bloomsbury care? These Wiki shenanigans - and the egregious behavior of the editors behind them -- both anger and disgust me. Normally, I’d just shrug it off as “kids will be kids.” But Wikipedia editors are alleged to be adults. The Talk page fantasizing and the finger-pointing templates that blanket both pages of my entry are inappropriate, unprofessional, malicious and, in the opinion of PS&E counsel, potentially libelous. And because the pages are on public display, they impugn my professional reputation. According to Talk page guidelines, personal attacks and insults are not allowed (Editor Ken violates this rule repeatedly) Which is why have been advised to request that the entire entry - including the Talk page -- be "blanked" and replaced by clean, untainted copy. I realize that under normal circumstances, Wikipedia articles should not be blanked. But these aren't normal circumstances. Wikipedia's bylaws state that it is acceptable to blank an article for libel or privacy reasons as an emergency measure, as described in the policy on biographies of living persons. Your rulebook also notes that "completed deletion discussions (or other discussions) may be blanked for reasons of privacy or courtesy to individuals. Which suits me fine. I'd love to put all this behind me and give the page a fresh start. In other words, I'm asking for a common courtesy.

I look forward to your response. FL

FRANZ LIDZ Vice President of Communications 248.377.0148 / office 610.306.7022 / cell flidz@palacenet.comhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Steve_Quinn&action=edit&section=new# cid:image001.gif@01D2D096.0A6504B0  FranzLidz (talk) 11:37, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Prince Johnny C
It's been a while since I did anything on Wikipedia. My understanding is that things here are not as fast and loose as they used to be. In reference to the page in question I have added sources for the statements in the article. Is there anything else I need to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayhova4x4 (talk • contribs) 16:11, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for contacting me. If you notice, the page has been moved to a draft space so it can be worked on, without deletion tags or deletion discussion (see link here). I am thinking this topic is WP:TOOSOON for the main space. Besides that, if you notice, another editor who works in that area declined your submission to move it out of draft space (see link here). This means there aren't enough reliable sources to indicate notability or qualification as a stand alone article. I can only recommend keep watching the page and bring in sources as you find them. Thanks. Steve Quinn (talk) 01:34, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

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Question
Did you read the arguments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Churnalism? Did you read User:Northamerica1000/Churnalism? Geo Swan (talk) 12:52, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for contacting me. I recall participating in the deletion discussion and did read that page before. I will have to review these materials to refresh my memory. Will get back to you as soon as possible. Thanks. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 06:20, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

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Thoughts on Nanny/Childminder?
Hello Steve. You reverted a change I made. I wonder if you would care to have a look at Talk:Childminder? The situation can't stand as it is, but I'm happy to discuss various ways forward. Thanks. Carbon Caryatid (talk) 13:55, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I replied at Talk:Childminder. Thanks. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 20:41, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

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Nomination of Donald Trump racial views for deletion
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Immigration
Hi. I think the new section would be improved by removing the first two paragraphs, which seem to be just background. Perhaps you could integrate them, or just remove them. Cheers zzz (talk) 07:14, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for reviewing this in a timely manner. It is much appreciated. I actually submitted this to WP:AFC because it is a new (draft) article by a new editor, rather than summarily putting it up for deletion. I reached the same conclusion you did - lack of available reliable sources. I explained the situation on the new editor's page . Anyway, I am hoping this can reside in WP:AFC for awhile, until the new editor decides its fate or finds some sources (which really seem unavialble). So, I don't know exactly how WP:AFC works, but I am hoping I can leave this article there for the time being. Is this OK? Steve Quinn (talk) 05:30, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes. SwisterTwister   talk  05:33, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

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Move to Draft
Ok, Steve Quinn, thanks. No big deal for me, that was mainly a quick translation. If it appears as not relevant enough, I don't oppose it being cancelled. Best, --Dans (talk) 12:40, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Draftification
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Adding signature
I noticed that you added a signature for a user here. Note that the proper way of doing this it to use Template:Unsigned, rather than copying their signature from somewhere. North America1000 02:47, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * . Thanks very much. I saw you do this before and was wondering where the template is. ---Steve Quinn (talk)
 * So, you're going to just leave it as you posted, rather than fixing it? North America1000 07:54, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * . I just saw your reply. Sorry about that. What AfD was this again? I don't exactly recall. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 01:09, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Here. It's all good. North America1000 01:11, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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Precision Time Protocol Industry profile
Good day, I am not sure what your question is. The Wikipedia entry allows any engineer working on precision time for industry purpose (e.g. automation, vehicles, manufacturing, synchronized drives) to get a glimpse at the major parameters of the protocol. It is not a tutorial on PTP, but I wrote a tutorial in another Wikipedia page and in IEC 62439-3. This protocol is manufacturer-independent, license-free, defined by an international organization (IEC) and used in a large number of devices (although I cannot guess a value since the vendors do not disclose their sales). So if your question is "Why in Wikipedia?" you can ask the same for all standards issued by IEC which have a Wikipedia entry, that ranges from EMC specifications to high voltage lines and smart grids. Please respond to me if you read this message. Hubert Kirrmann — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hubert Kirrmann (talk • contribs) 15:52, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Please Comment on Melvin J. Ballard Center for Economic Self Reliance
Steve, you mentioned you put the redirect in place. Does that mean that All of my previous content that I wrote up was erased? If I find an independent source of information regarding the Ballard Center to clean up the notability issues, can i revert the page back or is my content erased for good? I haven't done this very much, so I'm just wondering. Thanks! Johnscottkeller (talk) 03:13, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
 * - Thanks very much for contacting me. Your content has not been erased. It is preserved and can be accessed via the edit history. To see this, click on this link: preserved content in edit history. To restore this to article status, I recommend having at least two independent sources and that could be a bare bones minimum per WP:GNG and per WP:ORG. I usually try to have at least three independent sources, but if you want to work with two, I don't have problem with that. Then we might be able to use other non-commercial and non-independent sources. Well, let me know what you think. Regards ---Steve Quinn (talk) 00:45, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

https links for the Wall Street Journal
Hello, Steve. I see that you were making the same reversions that I and other editors had been making to the articles Qubo and Novo Banco. But it turns out that the various IP addresses weren't completely wrong -- the old links (i.e., the ones with both the "https" protocol and the "online" term in the address) were no longer functioning. Changing the protocol to "http" (as was being done by the IP addresses) did correct the problem, but only because of a re-direct at the Wall Street Journal web site. I've gone back to the Qubo article and replaced the original "https" link with the currently-working link, which also uses the "https" protocol but is slightly different than the original link. In a few minutes, I'll do the Novo Banco links, as well. By the way, earlier this month the Bender Bot was fixing the old links automatically and it isn't clear to me why these two particular articles got missed. I hope this is helpful. NewYorkActuary (talk) 02:34, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Tnanks. Yes, this is very helpful. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 02:40, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

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Sarada Uchiha
I myself, said in the previous deletion that Sarada couldn't have her article due to lack of sources and failing WP:Notability. However, the current article possesses more real world information including both creation and cultural impact.Tintor2 (talk) 10:17, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Please don't make edits like this. The differences between the one nominated for deletion and the revival version is completely different, and doesn't serve you the right to make such an edit. If you disagree with the revival, nominate it at WP:AFD again. -- 1989 17:29, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * , I am not required to take any article to AfD, and if I think the article is lacking I can restore it to a redirect page. Steve Quinn (talk) 03:22, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Your "thinking" didn't make much sense (since the article was re-written), that's why your changes were reverted. The article is completely appropriate and shouldn't have been touched after it was re-written. If you disagree with the revival, nominate it at WP:AFD to gain consensus.-- 1989 03:29, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't need to hear personal comments. And I am not required to take any article to AfD just because you or anyone thinks so. The whole Anime project is packed with articles that lack sufficient RS. They mirror fan websites. It is really bad. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 03:34, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * If me and Tintor2 disagree with what you did, and you still want it enforced, you have to take it to AfD for a community discussion about it. You may think it's not a requirement, but in this case, it is. Also, what does "The whole Anime project" have to do with the article I'm talking about, and where on it do you see "fan websites"? If you're going to make accusations, you have to back it up with something. -- 1989 03:41, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

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Your submission on Htun Myint Naing
Hi Steve,

Just wondering if you could provide more information or a link to your addition on Htun Myint Naing's affiliation with Singapore-listed Singapore Myanmar Investco. I can't see anything else about it online.

Thanks.
 * It appears I did not edit this article according to the edit history. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 00:13, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

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Kidnapping of Mormon Missionaries in Saratov
Hi Steve Quinn I am Glen I am autistic I check draft kidnapping of Mormon missionaries in Saratov, I am still learn how to use it, I don't know how to use independent source or something, can you help me? GAJJR (talk) 04:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * . Thanks for contacting me. I will have to get back to you within a couple of days. Steve Quinn (talk) 03:24, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Mrs. William James constructively identified
Hi Steve, Disambiguation! I would think that it was a helpful tidbit, noting that the portrait by Sargent was of Alice Runnels James, the wife of William James junior (not mentioned in the article), not of Alice Howe Gibbens James, wife of the philosopher Henry James senior (named in the article). Would you like to discuss it?

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Thank you Steve for your message
Steve thank you very much for you message. I know shopping addiction is a very significant subject in our current society but it is also a very controversial one. Because of this I have tried to include all the scientific aspects and perspectives. Moreover the knowledge of shopping addiction progress fast, so it is necessary the updating of the contents of the page. That’s why the article is substantially a translation of another Wikipedia page which has done all this complete scientific work. Now – following the advices of Melcous- I am improving the article with more references and bibliography in English, since that they will be more useful for English readers. Psicosociales (talk) 11:17, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EWay
Hey,

I noticed you rolled back my last edit and put a tag for deletion on the article.

The reason I was updating the page is that a lot of the references on the current page have broken links or go to 404 pages.

If I update the page without the Industry Partners and Banking and Financial Partners sections would that help solve the issues with the page?

Then all references will be coming from third party newspaper articles (With the exception of the PCI Cert which I can remove as well if needed?)

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.55.147.158 (talk) 06:10, 8 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Please post your proposed changes on the article talk page. I do not trust an anonymous IP who is removing material and vastly rewriting the article. You were doing this before I submitted the AfD. Steve Quinn (talk) 06:14, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

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russia interference- emails
Steve, explain your logic in deleting my addition to emails on russia interference. Undue weight? The whole paragraph is one sided and incomplete. OK, Trump called for someone to find the 30,000 emails. BUT, which ones? SPECIFICALLY he was talking about the 30,000 emails that were unlawfully deleted because there was a congressional subpoena. This is not mentioned in the paragraph at all and is very important to the context. It was well sourced, not original research.Aceruss (talk) 18:46, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The whole paragraph is just fine. First, you left out some information because this is a complicated issue. As it is, as I said in the edit history, what you added is out of context. Therefore it is UNDUE, original research, and most likely has some BLP issues. Then I have to question if this belongs in the paragraph once all the bases have been covered. It might be beyond the scope of this paragraph or the scope of this article. I suspect that it could be both. Steve Quinn (talk) 05:01, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

disagree
I disagree with your revert of my recent edit.

I would like to point out that in my case, Pixels, as the title of the movie I linked to, is a proper noun, thus I do not believe a mention on the disambiguation page for just "pixel" is proper.

If you could explain the situation better perhaps I could understand, but as it stands I don't think a plural form of a noun belongs on the disambiguation page of its singular form when said plural form is a proper noun used as a title.

Shentino (talk) 18:32, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * In a way, it is unfortunate that the "Pixels" movies happen to be the plural of 'pixel' because both "pixel" and its plural "pixels" are common-nouns that can stake a claim to being the most widely used forms of this word. This is what WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:DABCONCEPT try to make clear. The words "pixel" and "pixels" are deemed broad concept terms, the broadest of concepts for this word, and therefore merit the primary topic describing the general term.
 * Other uses of this word are not primary when compared to the frequency of usage for the generic words "pixel" and "pixels. And I think, as pertains to English language linguistic thought on this matter, "pixel" and "pixels" are the same word - one term is the plural form. A dictionary of course actually confirms this. At the same time, if you were to pursue the theory I am guessing you would discover the same result - if you want to go to all that trouble.
 * In any case, to actually change what is considered the primary topic on Wikipedia for "Pixels", or the lower case "pixels", would be through consensus. You could try to develop a consensus on the talk page of current primary topic article. Or you could try some other venue, such as Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation. Well, I hope this helps. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 04:18, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the review
Thanks for the review on my page for the Japanese movie Maestro! (2017 film) Deathlibrarian (talk) 08:37, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Assessment Request
Hello and greetings. Recently I noticed that you added a quality scale on the article Wu Commandery. After the first assessment, I have made some improvements of this article and I would request another assessment of it. Thank you. 損齋 (talk) 02:20, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * OK. I don't see this as a problem. Thanks for contacting me. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 02:34, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Do i need someone such as you to do this? 損齋 (talk) 06:47, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I am willing to do it, I just haven't made it over to the page yet. Also, if you feel comfortable upgrading the assessment, I don't think it is a problem if you do this yourself. It seems you think it deserves an upgrade and there is nothing wrong with that. Steve Quinn (talk) 01:10, 24 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I just started a new discussion on the talk page at Talk:Wu Commandery - Assessment. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 01:27, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Over Deletion of page : C Ravichandran
Hey, Steve.

I think the page already has enough verifiable and reputed resources which describes the individual. I'm glad that you have spend time looking for reputable contents of C Ravichandran, and you mentioned about Google Books and that you wasn't able to find a book written by him. I had done one search and I find this one : Google books - C Ravichandran, the book cover page is printed 'C ravichandran' but since it's in Malayalam, may not be understandable by you.

GoodReads profile of C Ravichandran is user-generated, but then you should be considering this profile page of him, which is not user-generated : https://onlinestore.dcbooks.com/authors/ravichandran This is his profile page in DC Books official website, and it lists all the books published by DC of him.

Regarding Notability - This is the result page of Youtube on searching the keyword : C Ravichandran https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=c+ravichandran ,and I hope this shall proves how much attention he gets from regional (Kerala) people.

I can understand the doubts of you on C Ravichandran having Post Graduated degrees in many subjects, but it's somewhat a common here in India, that some people grabs many Degrees and Post Degrees. This is strictly not exaggerated claim. But don't ask the University certificates as sources to prove this, please.

As a wikipedia user and one who created this page, I'm deeply disappointed by these activities which could only hinder wikipedia from expanding. You cannot provide 'resources' for every sentence of a wikipedia page and not all sentences in a page can be supported with a 'source'.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajkrishnan R (talk • contribs) 17:22, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

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Makerspace Dispute
Hi Steve,

I'm sorry, but a Makerspace is not a Hackerspace. Equating the two as identical is outdated. There has been support of this position on the Hackerspace Talk, and I'd like to boldly move forward by having a separate Makerspace article reflect reality. A Hackerspace is but a subset of a Makerspace. Makerspaces are completely independent of Make Magazine. But Make Magazine and Dale Dougherty is widely credited with inspiring the Maker Movement. This is common knowledge in the Maker community. There is no agenda or promotion here.

Please let me know how we can come to a consensus, as I intend establish Makerspace as an independent article from Hackerspace, in full accordance to the rules. If there are additional or alternative criteria or citations you could suggest, I'd be happy to include them.

BrainDozer (talk) 22:27, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Draftification of Victoria University of Wellington Faculty of Education
You have draftified Victoria University of Wellington Faculty of Education twice. However, the article had existed since 2003, so I reverted the draftification, did a further move to Faculty of Education of Victoria University of Wellington, and started an AfD at Articles for deletion/Faculty of Education of Victoria University of Wellington. GB fan already reverted the draftification and suggested AfD, but you re-draftified anyway. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 01:05, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Power Macintosh 5400
Undo what you just did to this article. This is not a new article -- it was created in 2007 for goodness sakes, and you left an automated message on a user's talk page, telling him about an article he just created.... he hasn't contributed to Wikipedia since 2008! Nor is the article lacking in sources, as you claim. In the future, I recommend you have a closer look at an article's edit history before using one of your automated tools to silently interrupt some work in progress. You're welcome to look at my contribs to see what work is being done. Thank you for your cooperation.  Warren -talk- 05:31, 22 September 2017 (UTC)


 * The article does not have independent reliable sources. It has only primary sources linked to the manufacturer's website. So saying it has sources is not quite accurate in the sense of guidelines and wp:content policies. I have moved it out of draft space. The article has been moved to the mainspace under Performa 5400 because the Power Macinstosh 5400 has a speedy tag on it and also has an incongruent page history. The actual page history is now at Performa 5400. When Power Macinstosh 5400 is deleted the article can be moved back to that name. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 05:50, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm literally trying to fix that across a number of articles right now. There are multiple links under External links which meet WP:ELYES criteria from the perspective of them being able to provide neutral, reliable detail.  If you have concerns about this, there are several templates to choose from to point out this specific concern on any given article.
 * This is why it's important for you to review page and contribution histories before using your automated tools to blaze through someone's work. You haven't made the encyclopedia any better through this effort tonight, and you've given me an extra cleanup task on top of the dozens I've already taken on for myself.  Do better than this in the future.  Warren -talk- 06:01, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the extra work. If I see that the Power Macintosh 5400 has been deleted before you, I will move it there. Other than that, I will now step out of the way for awhile Steve Quinn (talk) 06:11, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

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Avico page deletion
Dear Steve,

I received your message about Avico Page deletion. I understand your point even if it was my first page creation and I am a bit disappointed about it deletion. Could you help me to understand which section were too commercial in your opinion ?

Here is a reminder of the page structure : -History -Activities -Main services -Avico Group main brands -Miscellaneous --Air Zero G --The Jasmine commitments --Enac Avico Challenge

In advance many thanks,

Regards

Question on SwellRT article
Hi Steve, thanks for your review of SwellRT that I've been working with. I plan to tackle the issues you tagged. I believe you are right it reads sometimes as an advertisement and that can be rewritten. I also think a chunk of references are too closely related to the project, and they could be replaced or complemented with others. I am concerned though on the notability tag, since I thought I had put effort in justify its notability, so I would really welcome any advice you may provide for me to tackled that.

Thanks Samer.hc (talk) 17:35, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for contacting me. I will be glad to discuss the issues with you on the article talk page soon. Regards, ---Steve Quinn (talk) 05:56, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll wait for it. Thanks! Samer.hc (talk) 13:10, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Heritage Christian College
Hi Steve,

I noticed the Heritage Christian College page has been redirected. I also noticed your reasoning, but the decision appears flawed. I found it necessary to "undo" that action. Allow me to explain why. Heritage is an affiliate institution of KNUST. What it is not, for example, is a building, or a satellite campus of KNUST. I had linked the Wiki article for "university colleges (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_college)" which is the proper classification for Heritage. See the United Kingdom section, which is how HCC is viewed.

A proper analogy would be: KNUST is to Oxford as Heritage Christian College is to Trinity College. Trinity is a part of Oxford but also its own institution, with independent views, its own history, and is worthy of separate citation. Trinity, for example, has its own entry. This is but one of many, many other examples of "affiliates" that are perfectly worthy of their own recognition.

The page had ample citation, including several sources that have their own Wikipedia entries.

I appreciate and value your skeptical mind, but in this case it does not seem necessary.

Thank you,

-JE — Preceding unsigned comment added by JemullyEditor (talk • contribs) 15:04, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

1st Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division
Steve, I plan to add a narrative history of the unit, but haven't gotten there yet. The lineage and honors information works better as a list of bullets, and that is the way most of the unit pages show them.

Animal Sentience (journal) References Added
Hi Steve, thanks for reminding me to provide references for the new journal. As per your request, seven references have been provided, three of them reviews of the journal, one an article about the journal and editor, one an editorial from the journal, and two annual tables of contents of the journal. Here are the citations for the 265 articles that have appeared to date: Citations. --User:Harnad 13:36, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

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I disagree with your edit (of my edit) of the article about Congressman Jim Jordan
My edit consisted of the single word, "lawyer". Prior to my edit, his bio read like this.. "an American politician, wrestler, and former collegiate wrestling coach". The man is a lawyer, but the lead sentence of his article fails to mention that (but notes his collegiate wrestling background). Was the writer serious? The reason that I didn't provide a citation is that one was already provided, as the BODY of the article mentioned that he was a lawyer. BTW, where is the citation which confirms the fact that he was ever a wrestler? There wasn't any reason to edit what I had done. Almost certainly done to degrade his accomplishments for those who tend to read only the first few sentences of an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.163.24.130 (talk) 05:54, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

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On editing a locked page
Sir I request you, one of a page has been locked for vandalism but is filled with maligning things about the character without even a single proof. The character is Karna from Mahabharata and some editor who still has access to it is spreading misconception about the character. It is offending our religious belief and isn't even factual. I kindly request you to guide me on how to edit that page, I will use all the proper citations. Thank you Dinesh2069 (talk) 09:56, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Dinesh2069 Yes. I will do the best that I can here. For extended confirm lock down on a page, you need to be an extended confirmed editor to work on the page. So, this means, you need be an editor for no less than 30 days, and you need to accumulate 500 edits. These are the qualifications that are delineated on this page Extended confirmed users.
 * However, you may not realize that you are allowed to voice your concerns on the article's talk page right now. See this: Talk:Karna. You can write as much as you want on this page, with the number of edits already assigned to your account. So, the best thing to do right now is to work diligently to quickly accumulate 500 edits.
 * You can even start a few discussions on the talk page for some of those edits. And on November 21, 2019 you will have access to this article page. Feel free to contact me again, if you feel the need. Good luck and regards. Steve Quinn (talk) 16:52, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello ,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon. There are now holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action. Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays. Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox. Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards. Admin has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers. Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources. Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13. The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights. There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion. To opt-out of future mailings, you can remove yourself here MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:33, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
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Thank you for updating me on what happened with the discussion on the War against Islam conspiracy theory page. I got distracted by real life for a few days. I'll take a look and weigh in sometime in the next 24 hours. EastTN (talk) 19:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019


This year's Reviewer of the Year is. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
 * Reviewer of the Year

Special commendation again goes to who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to and  who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by.
 * Redirect autopatrol

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.
 * Source Guide Discussion

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag. Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 16:11, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * This month's refresher course

nuclear subs
nope it was NCRE Rosyth my dad that built the modules for the nuclear subs of today

ncre and my dad never got cecocnition — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davied1972 (talk • contribs) 00:23, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

The removal of my content
I don’t quite understand what the problem was with my addition. I am also completely bemused as to why you would suggest it constitutes vandalism. Thanks for you’re time to review my additions though, Jill Jill Bier (talk) 10:48, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello. Thanks for your contribution. To answer your question: the addition to the article was unsourced content, and the content seemed un-encyclopedic. Adding an unverified joke to an article causes difficulty for determining whether or not it is valid. I added a "Welcome" section to your talk page. The links in that section can help you to navigate the parts of Wikipedia that may seem puzzling. Regarding this particular edit, the following page my be of interest: Verifiability. Also, feel free to ask me any questions. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 03:31, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020
Hello ,

The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.
 * Source Guide Discussion

New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at WP:RPATROL.
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 * A resource page with links pertinent for reviewers was created this month.
 * A proposal to increase the scope of G5 was withdrawn.

Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.
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NPP Sorting can be a great way to find pages needing new page patrolling that match your strengths and interests. Using ORES, it divides articles into topics such as Literature or Chemistry and on Geography. Take a look and see if you can find time to patrol a couple pages a day. With over 10,000 pages in the queue, the highest it's been since ACPERM, your help could really make a difference. In late February, Google added 5 new languages to Google Translate: Kinyarwanda, Odia (Oriya), Tatar, Turkmen and Uyghur. This expands our ability to find and evaluate sources in those languages.
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New Page Patrol December Newsletter
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It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to and  who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to, , and who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.
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As a special recognition and thank you has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.
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 * As you will see, acting in line with WP:DPR, I have vacated your closure of this AFD and reopened it. Closing an AFD in which you have !voted, and less than 24 hours after the discussion opened, is far-removed from correct process. Stifle (talk) 08:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Angola, Delaware
Your closure of this discussion is not appropriate. First, per WP:INVOLVED, you shouldn't be closing discussion you've participated in unless it's a self-withdrawal situation. Second, it is rarely appropriate to close AFDs less than 24 hours unless it's a major WP:SNOW situation, which this wasn't as there were only two !voters besides the nominator. Hog Farm Talk 02:44, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hog Farm is correct. I'd encourage you to undo this close; otherwise it will almost certainly be reversed at deletion review. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:14, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * u|Hog Farm and u|Extraordinary Writ. Thanks for your feedback. I am an experienced Wikipedia editor and I know what I am doing. I explained my rationale for closing and I am satisfied with it. Also, I am not involved simply because I entered an ivote during the discussion. There are no hard and fast rigid rules on Wikipedia. Let's just say I employed WP:IAR. If you want to take it to deletion review then feel free to do so. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 03:37, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

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To update entry with latest winners of the Longford Prize
Thanks for your message re the new details that you have removed from the Longford Prize page. The citation I used in the edit was the Longford Trust's own website page that lists the winners of the prize it awards. Is this not sufficient as a citation? I can't really think of what better source there could be. I'd be grateful for your guidance. Second chancer (Second chancer (talk) 10:27, 15 April 2020 (UTC))
 * . Hi. Let me get back to you on this. Thanks for contacting me. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 10:31, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!
You should also look at Fox_News_controversies, since some of the stuff I did here kind of influenced the new page. ViperSnake151  Talk  17:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Don't change my comment
before changing my comment, read WP:THREAD. I wasn't responding to Isaidnoway. I was responding to the OP.-- SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 19:30, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * that is really irrelevant. And it seems the comment was in line with the other comments. There is no discernible difference. I was correct in changing the indent. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 19:33, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Let's go and ask an admin which one of us is actually correct.-- SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 19:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * if you want to change the indent feel free to do so. I won't be doing it. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 19:36, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I have changed it.-- SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 19:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are correct. I apologize. I read WP:THREAD. Thanks. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 19:44, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

On non-adminness
That can be changed. Don't know you much outside of project space, but I've always been impressed with how you handle yourself. You'd have my +1 at RfA. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:39, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much! That's quite a compliment. I'll keep it mind. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 03:23, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hello! I've noticed that on some of your recently created articles like The Edge of the World (book), Landslide (Wolff book), and I Alone Can Fix It, you've used generic citation titles like "Book review" or "Interview with book authors" instead of the actual titles of the sources. This is misleading, incomplete, and can hinder efficient verfification, for instance if someone is attempting to locating a print copy, if a publication has more than one book review on the same book on the same date, or especially in the future should link rot occur and the original title is missing or ambiguous. I've corrected the source titles in I Alone Can Fix It. Please make sure future references are in line with WP:CITEHOW guidelines, so that anyone at any time can more easily track down and verify the reference. Cheers, and happy editing. --Animalparty! (talk) 21:51, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

RfA
I see someone above mentioned this. Goood idea. I'll nominate.Expect abuse from the idiots. Show your fitnessor the job by ignoring it. DGG ( talk ) 10:35, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd support. Firsfron of Ronchester  10:38, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * and . To which RFA are you refering? ---Steve Quinn (talk) 10:45, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm referring to User_talk:Steve_Quinn, and I'm sure DGG is, too. Firsfron of Ronchester  10:49, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * OK thanks, Firstfron.
 * I hope you are joking around. I really don't wish to be nominated for Admin at this time. It is a compliment that is much appreciated. But, I don't think I will be spending much time on Wikipedia in the coming months - from between next week until next June. And who knows if I will participate much even then. Regards, Me. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 10:57, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry to hear that! Best, Firsfron of Ronchester  11:13, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Request for new page review / edits
Hi Steve,

If you got some time in your day, could you take a look at a new wiki page I created? Recreation.gov? I saw you had a template somewhere referencing Recreation.gov in your wiki space, so figured you might just have a passing interest. Cheers!

Shaded0 (talk) 02:04, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

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Non-correlation between statement and sources
Hi, the recent sock-edits, including the whole sequence in the leading part #Origins, about the proto-turkic homeland simply isn’t backed up by the sources. There is not one sentence in the given references. You have to check the sources before you allow abusive sockcontent. However, considering the context of that „Transeurasian theory“, an absolute minority view among linguists, these studies belong to the article Altaic languages. Yours thankfully —Lithuist (talk) 08:44, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * . Hi. Thanks for your input. This has nothing to do with allowing abusive sock content. There are several other editors involved with restoring, or not restoring, this material. Please discuss this on the article talk page if you wish. There is no need to open a discussion here. Thanks. Also, with only one or two edits attributed to your user name, I am wondering if you are a sock. Do you have a blocked account and are you circumventing that blocked account? Do you have other Wikipedia accounts? ---Steve Quinn (talk) 14:23, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Additionally, does not have a lot of credibility pertaining to their editing history. That editor had no problem misrepresenting their edits to support dominating articles with their POV. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 14:48, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Struck through the CU blocked sock's edit. Doug Weller  talk 14:46, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

China Communications
One journal you mentioned, China Communications, actually links to the construction company. Do you mind if I create a page for the (Scopus-indexed, etc). journal? Sheijiashaojun (talk) 09:26, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , Please feel free to do so. I recommend creating the page as China Communications (journal). If you decide to change the target for the above redirect to that page, well, it is up to you. I found this journal online. I suppose it is not only indexed in Scopus but also in Web of Science databases. It has an impact factor of 2.688. Hopefully we are talking about the same journal. Here is the URL: . ---Steve Quinn (talk) 11:15, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, yes, that's the one. It's not my usual interest, but it doesn't make sense to send people looking for the journal to a construction company. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 11:27, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , I agree. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 11:37, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

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Heather Pringle (writer)
Hello, do you think the tag on this one is justified? I would have thought the books and awards were enough. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_Pringle_(writer) (You'll see that the page was created by a similar username. It's me, but from a long-ago forgotten-password account. When I started to edit again, it's the even more ancient account where my password worked. The two are variations in pronouncing the same quote from The Peony Pavilion) Sheijiashaojun (talk) 20:28, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , Let me get back to you in about a day. I think I am done on Wikipedia for this day. Steve Quinn (talk) 20:37, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, no worries or rush. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 20:38, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , Hi. I just did a quick look through the article. I think the awards alone indicate notability. As long as her receiving the awards are sourced I think it would be OK to remove the tag. I'll go ahead and remove the tag. Just, please make sure the sources support her being awarded. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 20:42, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. They do, but I added links to the award websites also just to be on the safe side. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 21:03, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

== Journal of Asian History ==

Hello--any objections to this one? https://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=16300154709&tip=sid&clean=0 https://www.bib.uab.cat/human/acreditacions/planes/publiques/revistes/revistesideng.php?idrev=179&area=eao&menuidioma=eng#.YStPOI4zbD4 Sheijiashaojun (talk) 09:11, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , This is a good one. I say "go for it!" It is indexed in the Arts and Humanities Citation Index . ---Steve Quinn (talk) 11:23, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , I wouldn't count on SJR for accurate information on an academic journals. It often seems to be lagging behind or maybe it simply has the wrong information. I am going to ping regarding SJR.
 * As you probably know, academic journals provide information about themselves that can be presumed accurate. They don't want to chase away researchers and academia by misrepresenting themselves or by inadvertently posting inaccurate descriptions.  So, I think, a journal's website is an OK place to start. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 11:35, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * As you probably know, academic journals provide information about themselves that can be presumed accurate. They don't want to chase away researchers and academia by misrepresenting themselves or by inadvertently posting inaccurate descriptions.  So, I think, a journal's website is an OK place to start. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 11:35, 29 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I routinely remove any reference to SJR. Most journal websites from reputable publishers are reliable, but you have to be careful with smaller publishers: they are sometimes outdated or, in case of predatory journals, completely fake (there are quite a few predatory citation indexes). If you need a journal checked in the JCR let me know, I have access. --Randykitty (talk) 13:35, 29 August 2021 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. Sheijiashaojun (talk) 22:20, 29 August 2021 (UTC)


 * HI, it got draftified, which is fine, but I thought I'd give you the heads-up in case you wanted to advise/assist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Journal_of_Asian_History Sheijiashaojun (talk) 19:11, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you, and a question
Hi Steve. Thanks again for proposing a compromise at Stop the Church. I really feared things had gotten too bogged down to move forward there, but it appears your proposal has shown my pessimism to be misplaced. The discussion on ANI that brought you to the article was closed before I really was able to get an answer to my final question, however. That is, what should I have done better? The question had already gone to a dispute noticeboard, which is how JzG was brought to the article in the first place. Any suggestions for what to do differently next time? Thanks again! --Slugger O&#39;Toole (talk) 02:14, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware there was dispute resolution noticeboard interaction about this. Can you supply a link? I tried to find it in the archives but have been unable to do so. And that is one of the proper venues when a dispute requires it. Good job for going there and trying to work it out. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 02:32, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , It actually wasn't me, but rather Contaldo who requested a third opinion. JzG then came in, edited the disputed text, was reverted, and put it back in against what was then the consensus. As I saw it, I was only looking to follow WP:NOCON, but if I did something wrong I'd like to know what it was so as to avoid it in the future. --Slugger O&#39;Toole (talk) 02:48, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm looking at the "Stop the Church" editing history, and I see a back and forth. I'm also noticing extensive talk page discussions. The talk page discussions are the correct way to go, so obviously there was nothing wrong with that. The thing is, why place yourself in jeopardy by engaging in an edit war? My thinking is do not go this route - as a priority. I can't tell right now how much back and forth there was. I am trying to get a sense of how much this happened by the edit history comments. How many times would you say that you and JzG reverted each other (on all edits in different sections)? ---Steve Quinn (talk) 03:15, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , It's a lot of text and a lot of edits, so if you can figure it all out on your own then I'm impressed! JzG introduced new text and I partially reverted. To me, that should prompt WP:BRD. Instead, he simply edit warred his preferred version back in with an edit summary that simply read "Nope." I didn't revert him again, but rather engaged on talk. After he stopped communicating on talk for two days (but was active elsewhere), I reverted. This brought him back, but it was to put his preferred text back in. The same thing happened again. He stopped communicating on talk, I thought it was a tacit acknowledgement that I was right, and I reverted back to the last stable language. Only then did he become active again by reinserting his preferred text. That's when I went to ANI. --Slugger O&#39;Toole (talk) 16:47, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * OK. Well that's what happened. It's over. So, I'm going to drop this conversation. It seems you have enough experience on Wikipedia to know what's going on, so I will leave it that. Good luck. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 21:26, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , OK. I'm still not quite sure what I could have done better, but thanks again for proposing the compromise that seems to have gained acceptance. -- Slugger O&#39;Toole (talk) 12:15, 3 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Note that Slugger is now pushing, with help from his co-reloigionists, for the Catholic Approved Version&trade;, which puts the tendentious claim that the host desecration (which will, of course, be crowbarred back to "desecration of the Eucharist" obsessively capitalised, into the lead as the most important thing, based on the news cycle of that week, whereas all the sources say that the debate over the Catholic position on safe sex was the most important thing, based on historical analysis. This is why it is impossible to work with Slugger. As a religionist, it is unsurprising to find that in his mind there is One True Version of everything, and that no other version is acceptable. That is why he was banned from Knights of Columbus. He should be banned from all articles relating to Catholicism, because his approach to collaboration is that any compromise that gives him everything he wants is acceptable, but nothing else. Guy (help!) 11:12, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of IEEE Antennas & Propagation Society


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Transport phenomena as fundamental building blocks of universe?
The Wikipedia article states, “Transport phenomena encompass all agent.s of physical change in the universe. Moreover, they are considered to be fundamental building blocks which developed the universe, and which is responsible for the success of all life on earth.” This reads like an overly broad and enthusiastic statement, but I see that it is likely accurate. I would like to further explore the notion, but I have not been able to find further information as to the basis of the statement, particularly regarding 'fundamental building blocks which developed the universe.' If you know of a resource for further study, kindly advise. Don Foster, sproutsradio@gmail.com Thank you. DonWally (talk) 19:31, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
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Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
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Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
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There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.


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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
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At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently Special:ListUsers/patroller New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

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I'm just doing my job
I'm not a very good contributor, so I mainly just hang around Recent Changes and revert the problematic edits:) Thanks for the compliment, though!The Evil   Sith   Kitten  00:11, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

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October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive
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Proposed deletion of Sundae Bloody Sundae (slogan)


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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
Hello , Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to ), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also. Software news: and  have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved. Suggestions:
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Backlog: Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!


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Simple English Wikipedia
Hello, I was wondering if you could look at the Atom article on Simple English Wikipedia. It should be around the level that would be seen in an article like Introduction to quantum mechanics, but articles at that project try to use Basic English. It would be great if you could review the article to see if it's factually correct and reasonably comprehensive. See simple:Wikipedia:About for more info about that project. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 19:32, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
Hello , The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day. won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
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Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from  to  '''

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as and  have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.


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Orphaned non-free image File:Astronomy & Geophysics cover.jpg
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Raven
I'd appreciate it if you could tag the right user. You seem to often discuss with the user .Raven but always tag me Raven. Note the missing . Thank you, Raven (talk) 12:38, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of S. Samar Hasnain


The article S. Samar Hasnain has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Apparently fails WP:NACADEMIC. Sources provided show that he has done some scientific work, but do not show notability."

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Cliffs at Étretat
Thanks for mentioning this in one of your complaint edits about me, I'd forgotten about it and will get back to adding requested references (was working on it soon after they were removed but moved to other things, thanks again). As for adding the film's free-use trailer back to the Some Like It Hot page, I couldn't think of any good reason to not include it on the page. The editor who removed it, after being asked to explain in two or three locations, had yet to do so, so I felt that adding it back was both common sense and within the rules. As for the slander to all women who call themselves witches that presently exists in the Witchcraft lead and its short description (please realize that Witch redirects there), maybe since you found it you can join in having that changed. I'll get back to it at some point, it seems to be one of the most outrageous things sitting undone on Wikipedia. Probably hundreds if not tens of thousands of witches read Wikipedia, I've known quite a few witches, happily dated several (not at the same time, darn) and two, who I see once a year at annual garages sales, live in my neighborhood. To lump all wonderful witches together as evil the way the lead and short descriptor of 'Witchcraft' does is itself harmful (imagine if you feared witches - even the good one from Wizard of Oz and those god-forsaken Buffy characters - and then one moves in right next door! You decide to check in at Wikipedia to see if your fear is justified, and find out that it is! and act accordingly. Yikes). Seriously, please consider helping in getting that changed. This gets long, so thanks again, will work on those references for Monet's beautiful series. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:53, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for your post. We can discuss the Witchcraft article sometime - if you want - before you go back and edit there. Whenever you decide you want to have this discussion let me know. We can discuss it here on my talk page if you like. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 16:01, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the withdraw of the 1rr, appreciated. Would like to get 's take on the witch redirect and the slant of the lead and short descriptor (the present short desciptor: "Practice of malevolent magic") at Witchcraft before taking it back to the article. Maybe, at a minimum, the Witch redirect can be changed to Wicca. Interesting that the exact charges against women that led to tens of thousands of deaths for literally no reason except men feeling threatened by the acceptance of women as equals are now the named charges once again brought against women identifying as witches but now expressed in Wikipedia's voice (aren't we reverting back a few centuries here?). Randy Kryn (talk) 11:49, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I have numerous gripes about Witchcraft – including that short descriptor – but have not edited the page in order to avoid possible WP:COI allegations (see my blog for more details). – . Raven  .talk 15:54, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your explanation. Steve Quinn, what do you think about moving the redirect Witch to Wiccan instead of Witchcraft where biased language reminiscent of the dark ages witchhunt days against all women who presently identify as witches is repeated in Wikipedia's voice? Randy Kryn (talk) 01:10, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I was going to say go ahead. But I checked the "Witch" talk page. And the redirect is the result of merge. See Merge and see the next section entitled "Merge again". So, I think it is best not to change the redirect because it is the result of a merge. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 19:23, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I was also going to say to open a discussion about this on the "Witchcraft" talk page. But I think the merge and the content from the merge is part of the page history. So, this idea would probably get shot down. And I can't recommend doing that. You would probably be accused of not understanding policy or how Wikipedia works or something like that. Just trying to let you know in advance. Steve Quinn (talk) 20:19, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and I realize that from the reception I got when I made the edits to the first sentence and short descriptor. This is a quandary, because of the seriousness of this redirect to such an ugly descriptor of witches in Wikipedia's voice. By the way, I edited in the references I could find in this section's named article, the Monet painting/series, thanks again for reminding me about it. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:30, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Glad I could help. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 22:44, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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The Devil Never Sleeps
I revamped The Devil Never Sleeps to make it about the book and not the author. Feel free to expand upon it. --evrik (talk) 21:40, 31 March 2022 (UTC)


 * - you did an excellent job. This article is much improved. Thanks very much for all the work you put into this. Also, I notice you nominated it for DYK. Excellent idea! My problem is I don't have a lot of time for Wikipedia anymore. Not like I use to. So I do appreciate editors like yourself who come along and help out. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 03:52, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Articles on departments/authorities within cities
HI Steve Quinn. Hope you are keeping fine. I replied to North8000 this morning that until he decides I will not move forward writing articles on those topics. Disappointing still you felt I am continuing to do. Apologies to you here again and in case you feel repetition kindly get to my notice. Thanking your efforts again. Gardenkur (talk) 14:21, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * thanks very much for your response. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 18:30, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

RH Edits
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I got ping messages and then noticed that the comments you left about my diffs from RH (BYU) that, I contend, demonstrate a problem but you contend are arguable were removed by you in a further edit whose summary read "copy edit". Given that there is probably enough going on there, I will assume you intended on removing those comments but, briefly, I think it is very important to look at what the end result of those edits are. They do a number of things which basically "soften the blow" of embarrassing points for Mormons. If you go through and look at the sources she is relying on, they essentially all circle back to "Professors of Sacred Scripture" at BYU and the like: walled garden sort of stuff. The argument that, "hey, the source doesn't say Joseph Smith... it only says mucky-muck" is a cop-out. Look at what the upshot is of all these edits. It's a whitewash and a PR campaign. jps (talk) 03:23, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * . You are correct. I intended to remove those comments, because, as you said, there is enough going on there. Since there has been time in between then and now, I am glad I did, for whatever reason. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 06:17, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Nat Turner for deletion
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Re: Shermer
See Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard. Viriditas (talk) 17:41, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
 * In the event that you don't listen to the podcast Decoding the Gurus with Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne, they really went after Michael Shermer in their latest podcast. I don't know where you get your podcasts, but it's on Apple as well as Spotify. I'm not sure, but I think their episode was a response to Shermer appearing on this podcast. I think it was mostly fair (but there were a few instances here and there where they straw manned an argument or two against Shermer).  The overall point of the hosts, is that Shermer, like Sam Harris and many others, has far too often used his right-leaning libertarianism in service of his skepticism.  However, the hosts do acknowledge that on issues outside of politics, Shermer does a yeoman's job, but ding him on current issues related to Alex Jones and various QAnon conspiracy theories, where he seems to be somewhat milquetoast when he's wearing his skeptic hat.  I think the hosts mostly got this right, but it's kind of sad to see them take him down a notch. Viriditas (talk) 09:59, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 04:00, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Straw poll
Randy, and has been stated already in this discussion - the sources in that article do not support an independent article. In fact, this has been stated a number of times on that talk page prior to the Straw Poll section. This has been said in the sections entitled "Sources," "Discussion," and "Fiction proposal." ---Steve Quinn (talk) 16:06, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

In this "straw poll discussion" section see where Viriditas says, "The only problem that I can see with that version, is the majority of the sources are from Leary rather than from secondary source coverage. That's the crux of the issue, which is why a redirect to the biography is a good short-term solution until someone can flesh out the article with secondary sources. When he says "Leary" he is refering to primary sources in general. Primary sources will not support an article on Wikipedia. Also, he indicates that if or when secondary sources can be garnered for this article then that will be a different thing. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 16:13, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

No one is trying to destroy this article. In fact very much the opposite. A redirect will preserve the article for as long as Wikipedia is in existence. Therefore if secondary sources are gathered to directly support the content of the article it can return to standing on its own. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 16:17, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Also, I can copy the Bibliography and, if relevant, the external links to the redirected page. But the Bibliography section will probably be in a "Further reading" section on the redirected page.---Steve Quinn (talk) 00:49, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

I will have to sign off for now. Be back later. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 00:49, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking such a concern about this, although I don't know what the problem is with keeping the long-term article. Although others are saying it doesn't fit, I read WP:SECONDARY as agreeing with me that Wilson's 1983 book about Leary's model, which came out 10 years after Leary's work, is a valid secondary source. It is a book written about the topic. Where it overlaps and develops new information, it is a primary source, but where it comments on Leary's model it fits the WP:SECONDARY's language. What am I missing that moves it off of secondary source status into a non-valid source. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:59, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I think that's where the disconnect lies. I don't see how Wilson's book could be used as a reliable secondary source in your example.  I think it might be permitted as an ancillary, less-than-reliable secondary source, used sparingly.  The problem you are running into is that the eight circuit model is already considered fringe science.  When that happens, supporting secondary sources have to be extraordinarily reliable.  Wilson doesn't come close to that, but might be acceptable for use in another context.  This is why I recommend creating articles about Leary's books where he mentions eight-circuit (or similar) models and finding secondary sources about those works to support it.  When you've finished doing that, then you can see if there's enough reliable secondary sources for a stand alone article. Viriditas (talk) 01:14, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Except it's not science, as Leary mentions in the 1973 book. You've called it philosophy, which fits. And it's not really a theory, but as titled, a model. But the fringe theories editors have labeled it fringe, so it must be fringe, and then Wilson's full book on Leary's model, which I really can't understand how it doesn't fit WP:SECONDARY, can be dismissed as fringe too. See how that works. I'm not invested enough or know enough about Leary to create and bring to mainspace newer articles about his work, and hopefully some editors will do so. Your work was a good start, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:42, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I just re-read WP:SECONDARY. Every word fits Wilson's 1983 book analyzing the 1973 and 1977 model put forward by Leary. Where Wilson presents new ideas that falls into primary and can't be used, but his commentary on Leary's work seems to fit WP:Secondary, so no, I don't know how it doesn't (which is why I asked here). Randy Kryn (talk) 02:46, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The key word here isn’t secondary, it’s reliable. NPOV also comes into play. I really think you should reconsider creating at least one of the four missing book articles, because it will give you hands on experience with how it works. Exo-Psychology (1977) is the logical place to start. Viriditas (talk) 03:20, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Disagree, although you folks have the numbers. Thanks for the advice, I don't even have the book as far as I recall. I'm not an expert on Leary, but seem to know more than most, especially young editors who diminish him as just a '60s druggie which is what started all of this. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:41, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * All of these books are freely available at the Internet Archive. If you actively engage with the subject by trying to create articles about it, you will discover the reliable secondary sources that you need.  For some strange reason, you have completely misinterpreted this process as some kind of an attack on Leary and your own position.  Looking quickly for reliable secondary sources about Exo-Psychology, the first I came across was by sociologists Rodney Stark and William Sims Bainbridge.  They refer to the book as that of a "new mystical philosophy of outer space civilization", and they put this in the historical context of psychoactive drug use.  I would invite you to do the same research and see this for yourself.  This kind of academic analysis of the history and methods of psychedelia isn’t an attempt to denigrate but rather to understand. Viriditas (talk) 04:04, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your continued advice, it just doesn't feel right for me. Thanks for trying a few times. Your analysis about me is not correct, nobody is attacking anyone outside of normal Wikipedia disagreement activity. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:14, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I think we came in and demanded better sourcing, which is normal WP, but now as more sources are turning up everyone is just sticking to their first impressions and not reading anything new. Something like Higgs was what i was asking for so now why the rush to redirect? An additional point about Wilson as independent, Leary says something in either Starseed or Neurologic about a 'network', then Wilson forms 'The Network' and helps to promote his space migration ideas. Anyway, don't think it's quite fair to demand better sourcing, then just ignore and not give time to evaluate when those sources when found. fiveby(zero) 16:11, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * . Sorry that you feel ignored. I will check out the Higgs source you are talking about. But I think this is about getting something definitive done with the page. It can always be resurrected if independent sourcing supports it. People have been discussing what to do with this page since 2011 on the talk page.---17:32, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, i don't feel ignored at all, but do think we've moved the goalposts here. The original issue was that there was not enough in depth coverage for good content, which has been addressed i think. I'd defer to Viriditas on how best to organize that content, but just don't think it's fair to Randy Kryn to move immediately to redirect the article. fiveby(zero) 17:56, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Even if the Higgs book works out, most likely the content cannot be restored to Randy's preferred version. The book will most like have a summation of the circuit-model, and perhaps the history surrounding it. That's very different than the WP:OR that the article currently consists of, and perhaps some WP:SYNTH. Steve Quinn (talk) 18:07, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Synopsis section
I wasn’t aware a synopsis section required a source. I was away from 2016-2019, so let me know if the polices and guidelines were changed during that time. Viriditas (talk) 21:55, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * as far as I know the only place in an article where sourcing is not specifically required is the introduction. For other sections of an article, the requirement of independent sources is consistent across Wikipedia, as far I know. If you know of a guideline or policy that says a Synopsis section (even in WP:MOS) doesn't require sourcing I'd like to know about that. I'm not trying to be difficult. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 00:07, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Sourcing isn’t required for a brief synopsis or plot section because the source is the primary subject. This is why most plot and synopsis sections don’t have sources. The reason well formed lead sections don’t require sourcing (except for direct quotes) is because it is assumed the body already cites the material summarized in the lead.  I am not in a good position to cite the exact policies and guidelines, but it would be helpful to seek clarification on this, as things do change over time, and there’s a chance what I’m saying is no longer as true as it was in 2016. Viriditas (talk) 00:19, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, how about this for now. Go ahead and put the Synopsis section back, without the tag, and cite the primary source it is from - which is probably the book itself. That way readers know where the information comes from. And I think this is acceptable because notability has already been established by the independent sources for the subject of the article. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 00:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will wait a bit, as I may be able to a better job with another go around.  Of course, if you would like to give it a whirl, by all means, have at it. Viriditas (talk) 00:45, 4 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Just to follow up, please notice, the recent Featured Article Archaeology, Anthropology, and Interstellar Communication, contains no footnotes in the synopsis section. Viriditas (talk) 08:14, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * . Ok thanks. It is interesting that it is a featured article. Also, I may have come across the guideline you were talking about - that says the synopsis or plot section doesn't require sourcing because it is derived from the book. Let me see if I can find it again. I want to analyze this situation. Maybe we can discuss it, and get to the bottom of this . ---Steve Quinn (talk) 13:37, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, if people are not editing according to Steve Quinn then there is something wrong with Wikipedia, not with me! Obviously ---Steve Quinn (talk) 14:05, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for being a good sport. It is obviously a confusing issue, so anything you can find on this will help clarify, and perhaps we can pave the way for others by updating the guidelines so as to prevent further confusion in the future. Viriditas (talk) 23:52, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I think WP:PLOTCITE and MOS:PLOTSOURCE is what you were referring to. But, reading the first two paragraphs of WP:V, it seems WP:V is in conflict with PLOTCITE and PLOTSOURCE --Steve Quinn (talk) 02:59, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I could swear I had this discussion before! It was a long, long time ago, in a Wiki far, far away. Viriditas (talk) 03:07, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I am not aware of such a discussion but it makes sense that it came up. Was there any resolution? ---Steve Quinn (talk) 03:16, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Heads-up re your user sandbox
Hi Steve, I've just moved this edit from Racial views of Donald Trump back to User:Steve Quinn/sandbox using the merge history feature so there isn't an anachronistic 2016 edit in the article's history. I came across this article due to this fascinating paper, in which the Donald Trump racial views articles is mentioned. Hope you don't mind. Graham 87 11:11, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Metamaterials???
I've recently been refreshing my decades-old physics knowledge by watching physics lectures on YouTube. I was feeling pretty good about this stuff, following all the lectures, pleased that, even if I've forgotten some of the details, I still had the fundamentals down. Then I saw your user page with the metamaterials photo. Negative index of refraction? Mind blown. Just totally blown. Thank you. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:22, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Bulletin of SOAS
Hello. I'd like to end the redirect of Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies to SOAS (which doesn't even mention the publication). It's on Scopus, etc. https://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=5800207874&tip=sid Can I assume that doing this will not be an issue? Sheijiashaojun (talk) 23:09, 26 August 2021 (UTC)


 * . Yes. I believe it is listed in the Arts and Humanities Citation Index and Scopus. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 23:33, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

ANI edit error
Not sure what happened with your edit(diff), but it's not complete at all. "I will add, that W". – 2804:F14:809E:DF01:958C:CBEA:1D31:A2D5 (talk) 21:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)