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New Page Reviewer Newsletter
Hello, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update: Technology update:
 * The new page backlog is currently at 18,511 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a a day.
 * Some editors are committing to work specifically on patrolling new pages on 15 July. If you have not reviewed new pages in a while, this might be a good time to be involved. Please remember that quality of patrolling is more important than quantity, that the speedy deletion criteria should be followed strictly, and that ovetagging for minor issues should be avoided.
 * Several requests have been put into Phabractor to increase usability of the New Pages Feed and the Page Curation toolbar. For more details or to suggest improvements go to Page Curation/Suggested improvements
 * The tutorial has been updated to include links to the following useful userscripts. If you were not aware of them, they could be useful in your efforts reviewing new pages:
 * User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js adds a link to the new pages feed and page curation toolbar to your top toolbar on Wikipedia
 * User:The Earwig/copyvios.js adds a link in your side toolbox that will run the current page through

General project update:
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Harold Hecht
Hey Steve, I wanted to thank you for your support on the Harold Hecht filmography page that I created earlier tonight. Last year I wrote the Harold Hecht biography with the help of his children who proofed the article before I published it. I noticed that you suggested that images be added to those two pages. I initially had images on the Harold Hecht page last year but someone took them all down. All but 2 film posters and now it looks silly and empty. His family sent me a few images that they wanted included in the article but I'm having trouble with finding the correct copyrights, permissions and descriptions to make sure they don't get deleted. Is this something you could help me out with?
 * thanks for contacting me. Well, it seems you have created two wonderful articles. I might be able to help you with the images the family sent you. I am certainly willing to try because this is a good idea. I just emailed you, so I now have your email address. I am glad his family is happy with the article. Also, you forgot to sigh your above post. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 04:18, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Bossing & Ai for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bossing & Ai is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Bossing & Ai until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:47, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Infobox element
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Women in Red World Contest
Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!

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Advert tag
Hi Steve, a quick question for you: Can you explain what content you consider promotional on the Rover.com page and which merited the "advert" tag? Thanks!KateKate88 (talk) 00:06, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Janet Jacme
Why did you move an article that has been around for more than a dozen years to draft space? If you don't think it belongs on Wikipedia, use WP:AfD. Otherwise, please move it back to mainspace. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:50, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * AfD is not the ultimate answer for an article that does not qualify as a stand alone articles. There are other options - two of which are redirecting and incubating. Please see Alternatives to deletion on the deletion policy page. There is no need to continually burden AfD. I am guessing you are not familiar with the alternatives. Also, incubating gives the page a chance to develop acceptable sources before being placed back in the mainspace. Also, I think if two editors change a page to redirect that would be an indication that AfD is not the only alternative to problem pages. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 19:32, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it is you who is not familiar with that policy. Moving articles to draft space is intended for new articles, not 12-year-old articles. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:45, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The age of the article is of no consequence. There is no policy or guideline that speaks to the age of an article. And draft space is not only intended for new articles. Also, the deletion policy alternatives say nothing about the age of the article. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 20:53, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * You're mistaken. Re-read it. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:12, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * That reply is really vague. In any case, please quote the passage that says the age of article is of consequence or is related to the notability guidelines or content policies? ---Steve Quinn (talk) 21:23, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, it seems you are editing according to personal standards, rather than Wikipedia standards. . ---Steve Quinn (talk) 21:31, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:Drafts says: "Drafts are administration pages in the Draft namespace where new articles may be created and developed. They help new articles to develop and receive feedback before being moved to Wikipedia's mainspace." (emphasis added) WP:ATD-I says: "Articles which have potential, but which do not yet meet Wikipedia's quality standards, may be moved to the Wikipedia:Drafts namespace, where they may continue to be collaboratively edited before either "graduating" to mainspace or ultimately being deleted." (emphasis added) Since you claim age has no bearing on moving an article to draft space, I thought I'd highlight the places where it says that age does have a bearing. Do you want to tell me again who's editing according to his personal standards instead of policy? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:58, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * There is nothing in the paragraph you quoted that relates to the age of an article in mainspace. Not only does it say "new" articles but it also says - "articles which have potential but which do not yet meet Wikipedia's quality standards" - to wit - Janet Jacme. There is also more on that page which indicates drafting is appropriate. Anyway, I am not required to take any article to AfD.


 * As I pointed out earlier there are other options, besides Draft space, including redirect. I will quote a blurb I just came across within the last few days and this is not referring to you: "[Someone's] multiple removals of the redirect for the page were incorrect and contrary to established practice. In the absence of substantive sourced content regarding the article subject, consensus calls for redirecting the article to the page regarding the only sourced claim of significance. This consensus is confirmed by many AFD discussions relating to not only adult film performers, but also, within the erotica industry, Penthouse Pets and even Playboy Playmates..


 * An AfD for Janet Jacme will probably have this outcome, so I don't think it is necessary to waste everyone's time with another AfD. Also, as I previously stated, the amount of time an article has been on Wikipedia has no bearing on Notability, GNG, or worthiness as a stand alone article. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 03:11, 5 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you, but I'm familiar with that editor, who makes up his own "facts" about consensus on Wikipedia. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:07, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

the source for my claim of anti-gay beatings in Wyoming
That source is less than 2 years old it's still moderately newAbigcheese (talk) 07:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Draft talk:Donald Trump racial views
You are invited to join the discussion at Draft talk:Donald Trump racial views. I'm going to start working from your draft. Once it's up to start class (or C class), we can move it to draft. - MrX 13:57, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Precision Time Protocol Industry Profile
Sure, it is a page that addresses an educated audience, in particular engineers in electrical utilities. What is that you want to have less cryptic? Tell me how you like the text now. Bye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hubert Kirrmann (talk • contribs) 12:16, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Alert
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Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
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Introspection illusion
I checked the links to the articles on mindfulness in the section "criticism" - they were all irrelevant. In this connection, it is constructive to delete these links. All to null. Then to the section "criticism" did not contain nonsense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.72.106.219 (talk) 19:28, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

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Revisionism Vs. Negationism
I disagree with your decision to undo my edit on HIAG. The correct term is "negationism". You can read about it about historical negationism. Of course, unless you identify yourself as a holocaust denier and think it is a legitimate form of historiography. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.2.92.183 (talk) 19:37, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

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New Page Review Newsletter No.10
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages! ACTRIAL:
 * ACTRIAL's six month experiment restricting new page creation to (auto)confirmed users ended on 14 March. As expected, a greatly increased number of unsuitable articles and candidates for deletion are showing up in the feed again, and the backlog has since increased already by ~30%. Please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day.

Paid editing
 * Now that ACTRIAL is inoperative pending discussion, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary.

Subject-specific notability guidelines
 * The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
 * Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies. A further discussion is currently taking  place at: Can a subject specific guideline invalidate the General Notability Guideline?

Nominate competent users for Autopatrolled
 * While patrolling articles, if you find an editor that is particularly competent at creating quality new articles, and that user has created more than 25 articles (rather than stubs), consider nominating them for the 'Autopatrolled' user right HERE.

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NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

ACTRIAL:
 * WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Deletion tags
 * Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders. They require your further verification.

Backlog drive:
 * A backlog drive will take place from 10 through 20 June. Check out our talk page at WT:NPR for more details. NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.

Editathons
 * There will be a large increase in the number of editathons in June. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.

Paid editing - new policy
 * Now that ACTRIAL is ACREQ, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. There is a new global WMF policy that requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines
 * The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
 * Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies.

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 * A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, tag as required, then move to draft if they do have potential.
 * Development is underway by the WMF on upgrades to the New Pages Feed, in particular ORES features that will help to identify COPYVIOs, and more granular options for selecting articles to review.
 * The next issue of The Signpost has been published. The newspaper is one of the best ways to stay up to date with news and new developments. between our newsletters.

NPP Backlog Elimination Drive
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

We can see the light at the end of the tunnel: there are currently 2900 unreviewed articles, and 4000 unreviewed redirects.

Announcing the Backlog Elimination Drive! Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)  06:57, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
 * As a final push, we have decided to run a backlog elimination drive from the 20th to the 30th of June.
 * Reviewers who review at least 50 articles or redirects will receive a Special Edition NPP Barnstar: NPPbarnstar SE.png. Those who review 100, 250, 500, or 1000 pages will also receive tiered awards: RR3217-0014 100 rubles USSR 1989 Gold avers.png, Swiss-Commemorative-Coin-1991-CHF-250-reverse.png, Coin of Kazakhstan 500Thinker averse.png, US-$1000-SC-1878-FR-346a-PROOF.jpg.
 * Please do not be hasty, take your time and fully review each page. It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing.

NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers. Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.
 * June backlog drive


 * New technology, new rules
 * New features are shortly going to be added to the Special:NewPagesFeed which include a list of drafts for review, OTRS flags for COPYVIO, and more granular filter preferences. More details can be found at this page.
 * Probationary permissions: Now that PERM has been configured to allow expiry dates to all minor user rights, new NPR flag holders may sometimes be limited in the first instance to 6 months during which their work will be assessed for both quality and quantity of their reviews. This will allow admins to accord the right in borderline cases rather than make a flat out rejection.
 * Current reviewers who have had the flag for longer than 6 months but have not used the permissions since they were granted will have the flag removed, but may still request to have it granted again in the future, subject to the same probationary period, if they wish to become an active reviewer.


 * Editathons
 * Editathons will continue through August. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.

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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.


 * Project news
 * The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.
 * As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.


 * There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See New pages patrol/Coordination for more info to see if you can help out.


 * Other
 * A new summary page of reliable sources has been created; Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources, which summarizes existing RfCs or RSN discussions about regularly used sources.


 * Moving to Draft and Page Mover
 * Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
 * If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
 * Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
 * The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
 * The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.

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NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.
 * Backlog


 * Community Wishlist Proposal
 * There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
 * Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!


 * Project updates
 * ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
 * There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.


 * New scripts
 * User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js(info) — A new script created for quickly placing copyvio-revdel on a page.

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NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018
Hello ,
 * Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
 * Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.


 * If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.


 * We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.


 * With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.

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NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018
Hello ,

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.
 * Reviewer of the Year
 * Thanks are also extended for their work to (15,059 reviews),  (12,760reviews),  (9,001reviews),  (8,440reviews),  (8,092reviews),   (5,306reviews),  (4,153 reviews),  (4,016reviews),  and  (3,615reviews)., , , and  have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only sevenmonths, while , with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top100 reviewers.

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.
 * Less good news, and an appeal for some help

At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.
 * Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

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 * Training video

Speedy deletion declined: St Joseph's Young Priests Society
Hello Steve Quinn. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of St Joseph's Young Priests Society, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: notable founder indicates significance (consider merging per WP:ATD-M if necessary). Thank you. So Why  08:16, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Anna Niemczycka-Gottfried
Hello Steve Quinn. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Anna Niemczycka-Gottfried, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''article claims she has published articles in a variety of notable journals and newspapers. Whether there are sources to support this is for WP:AFD to decide.''' Thank you. So Why  08:19, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.17


Hello ,


 * News
 * The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.


 * Discussions of interest
 * Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
 * db-blankdraft was merged into G13 (Discussion)
 * A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
 * There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.


 * Reminders
 * NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD  because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.


 * NPP Tools Report
 * Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
 * copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
 * The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

Six Month Queue Data: Today – Low – 2393 High – 4828 Looking for inspiration? There are approximately 1000 female biographies to review. Stay up to date with even more news – subscribe to The Signpost.

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Nomination of The kid (Blood Meridian) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article The kid (Blood Meridian) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/The kid (Blood Meridian) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. -- wooden superman  11:13, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.18


Hello ,

, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
 * Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.
 * Reliable Sources for NPP

Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.
 * Backlog drive coming soon


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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019


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Voltage Standing Wave Ratio Article
I believe the readers would be well served to be warned that reference impedances are not always 'purely real'. Further, if they are not purely real, then all sorts of 'well known' equations deliver uncomfortable results. The article:

"Scattered Reflections on Scattering Parameters--- Demystifying Complex-References S Parameters" by Shuhei Amakawa in IEICE TANNS. ELECTRON., VOL E99-C, No 10, October 2016 "Special Section on Microwave And Millimeter-Wave Technology" is very informative.

Another reference is "Power Waves and the Scattering Matrix" by K Kurokawa, Member IEEE.

I bring this up only because I am constantly told that |Gamma|<=1 without the qualification that the reference impedance be purely real. I don't think people know that and I think they would be well served to be reminded.

Please let me know how I might proceed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AE6TY (talk • contribs) 18:43, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Nigeria 7-A-Side Squad For Africa Cup 7s 2013 and Nigeria 7-A-Side Squad For Africa Cup 7s 2014
The articles should not be deleted because it is not vandalism as you put it.The names of the previous 7-A-Side Squad For Africa Cup 7s  was put on the page as it is but becuase I am currently in the stage of developing the page to talk more about the history of Nigeria i rugby and also add more useful information to the page I decided to created a different page for the previous squads to make the page look more organized. I was only organizing the page I didnt think what I did was in any way vandalism I am a Nigerian trying to improve the page whats wrong with that?
 * Nothing is wrong with that, as long as you do improve the articles with reliable sources. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 03:43, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding
Do you think it is better for me to just create a single page for all the previous squads of the Nigerian rugby team instead of what I did which is creating an individual page for each of them? because there is no other improvements that could be made to these pages their purpose was just to list the names. Do you think if I had it all under one page would make the page more valid then? or I should just revert my edits and leave the names on the main page like it was? what is the best way to go about it? I did this whole thing because I thought the page was lacking useful information instead the page was mainly about the previous squads not the current squad or the history of rugby in Nigeria which are more valuable information. ---OmoYoruba45 (talk) 03:56, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * . Hello. Thanks for reaching out to me. Unfortunately, lists like this without references (or sources) don't survive on Wikipedia. Even if all these names were on one page - without reliable sources that discuss the subject, these pages will probably end up being deleted. But, I have an idea, and I don't know if it will work.


 * If you can find reliable sources that discuss the main topic of each page, which are names of squads on the Nigerian rugby team, then this could allow for updated lists. Then you will need something that says these lists of names are members of these squads. See if this works, and let me know how it works.


 * Also, I have moved several of these pages into the Draft Space so nothing will happen to them for quite awhile. This will give you plenty time to find sources. I will help you to search for sources, but it will have to be a day or two from now. You can begin as soon as you want without me. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 04:24, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Once again thanks for understanding. I think it would be impossible to find pages/links that can be used because rugby is not big in Africa I would say cricket is even more popular. Rugby in Africa is dominated by South Africa, Namibia and Zimbabwe and some east African countries. The reason I said this is that even the main Wikipedia page for rugby in Africa Rugby Africa and the official website lacks a lot of information compared to that of Football or Basketball. Bloggers rarely writes about rugby compared to Football and it is barely televised and even the only television station that televises rugby in Africa Kwese sports recently just stopped sponsoring Africa rugby probably because no one watches it leaving it with no TV sponsors the only way I follow rugby is from social media and other rugby fans like me. I don't think twitter post would be the best reference but that is probably the best I can get. I think it would be best for me to just leave the page as it is to someone that has access to more information than I can get. I reverted my edits because maybe the person that added the names had a better source that I can get. I hope rugby becomes big in Africa one day. Thanks again it was pleasure talking to you!

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello ,

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
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Funeral Support Payment
I have declined your A7 at Funeral Support Payment as a government program is not eligible under that speedy deletion criteria. Let me know if you have any questions. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:21, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Sandeep Dhaliwal
Hello, Steve Quinn,

I'm not actually sure of the CSD criteria you chose for this article, is there an existing article with the same name? If so, you should link to it. Also, when you place a speedy deletion tag on a page, you need to notify the page creator, in this case, Thsmi002. Liz Read! Talk! 04:11, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * There is no existing article with the same name. The speedy delete is so I can create the article. It's in my user space here And, I can see why you are confused. I didn't think of contacting the page creator. Thanks. I will do that. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 04:21, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * OK. so you are the creator of this redirect. You are welcome to help edit this article if you like. I'm just doing some preliminary stuff right now. Steve Quinn (talk) 04:23, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Pushchino Radioastronomy Observatory image 1.jpg
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Tagging of Draft:Firm but Gentle
I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on Draft:Firm but Gentle. I do not think that Draft:Firm but Gentle fits any of the speedy deletion criteria because '''This is factual in tone, and would be a valid article if notability can be demonstrated. It is not so promotional as to be subject to speedy deletion'''. I request that you consider not re-tagging Draft:Firm but Gentle for speedy deletion without discussing the matter on the appropriate talk page. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 01:46, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * . Hi. I tagged this article for speedy delete in the main space. Apparently, another editor came along and moved it the draft space sometime after that (see here). I don't think I would place a G11 tag on a page in draft space. I don't participate in Articles for Creation so I probably would not place a G13 tag in a draft space either. Just wanted to let you know. Thanks for contacting me. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 02:11, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the information. This is about the 8th page in draft tagged for G11 I have reviewed tonight. About half of them were obvious spam, the other half more like this one, just FYI. So some editors will place such tags. I missed the move in the history, but it wouldn't have made much difference to my actions. The mover should have untagged, however. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 02:23, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Editing St. Xavier’s College Page.
Sir,

It appears that you rolled back the addition of the Xaverian Center for Equality and Liberty on the aforementioned page for lacking citation.

I am the Secretary of the aforementioned society in the college information of which is available on the college prospectus.

Apart from that, here is our old Facebook page same.

https://m.facebook.com/XCEL2016/photos/we-cannot-all-succeed-when-half-of-us-are-held-back-malala-yousafzaixcel-the-xav/1922279874665649/

I hope this information is sufficient to restore the name of the society in the list.

Sincerely yours, SP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.194.96.228 (talk) 05:36, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Discretionary Sanctions
Steve, I'm surprised to see your behavior on Trump–Ukraine scandal. That article is under "consensus required" and 1RR. "Consensus" on WP does not mean that three people "voted" on something within a few hours. At the very least, if you are interested in determining consensus at any particular time in a discussion, the good faith method would be to ping all editors who have participated in the extended discussion of the matter to ensure that you have a substantial basis for your claim of consensus. In fact, you put a notice on the Donald Trump talk page to get more editor opinions -- that's not a bad approach -- but then it makes no sense not to await the input of those who might respond to your invitation.

At any rate, your second revert violates two sanctions: First you've violated 1RR. If this goes to AE, you will not have any credible claim that you're reinstating a long-established consensus when the section has been under constant flux over the past several days. Second, you again have violated "consensus required" for the reasons I've explained here and elsewhere. If you want to see how that works, look on the major articles such as Donald Trump when "consensus required" was in effect there. Collegial editors went to pains not to step in front of active discussions or disagreements with article edits to recent content where reasoned consensus (we do not count votes around here) was not established. As the talk page DS box tells us on the article talk page, "If in doubt, don't make the edit." -- This is the last polite warning I'm going to give you. I hope you'll undo your most recent violation and let other editors share their views on the entire lead. Once we lose civil and orderly process on these articles, the resulting confusion drives editors away and greatly increases the burden on those who remain to sort out the confusion.  SPECIFICO talk 15:42, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Major Grom
I am currently rewriting this article. I guess it can be saved from deletion.--Betakiller (talk) 14:05, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Troom Troom
Hey, I saw your proposed deletion of this article. As someone who hasn't had any hand in editing the article, I think it would be more fair to redirect or merge to 5 Minute Crafts instead, seeing as how this article is a trivial offshoot of the latter parent article but can still be used to support 5 Minute Crafts. Thanks, PantheonRadiance (talk) 22:00, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * User:PantheonRadiance I think merging or redirecting into "5 Minute Crafts" is a good idea. I think this article is now in the draft space. If not just go ahead and create a redirect, imho. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 03:59, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Apparently the page has been totally deleted. Here is the deleted page - (deleted by User:Liz) . Here is the Draft page for Toom Toom . Before you create a redirect I recommend you contact Liz just to make sure it is not a problem. Regards, Me ---Steve Quinn (talk) 04:10, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, shoot, I probably should have read this message sooner... I guess I'll ask her today about it then. Thanks! PantheonRadiance (talk) 19:21, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

André Paulo
Hello there, from Portugal,

this player was not even in the squad for the given match (which has a WP article), he is not entitled to a medal (as are not Daniel Bragança and Dário Essugo). Maybe i could have phrased it better in the edit summary, and for that i apologise. Ah, but if you check the "source" that was provided, you won't be seeing these three players mentioned anywhere, so there's that.

But that's OK, won't touch the article(s) again, it/they will remain with wrong info. Attentively --85.243.89.253 (talk) 23:44, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * OK thanks I will check out the sources. Also, it is best to provide an explanation in the edit summary that describes the action you are taking. "Hop off..." really doesn't mean anything. At least not to me. Something like not covered in sources seems to work better. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 12:35, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * OK. I self reverted. Thanks for the information. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 12:43, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Heliophysics NASA science


The article Heliophysics NASA science has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "The information presented in this article is almost identical to what is covered in Heliophysics Science Division and Heliophysics. Furthermore, the topic is nowhere near notable enough to warrant its own article."

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. CoronalMassAffection (talk) 09:13, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

George Floyd RFC
I noticed that in the discussion above the RFC, you asked for suggestions regarding alternative photos that could be used in the lead image. I proposed using a photo of the victim (as is done in similar articles) and moving the photo of the police officer to the body of the image. I also noted in my comment that the officer appears to be referencing previous BLM protests in the image. Whilst it might be relevant to the article its nature strikes me deeply inappropriate as a lead image so, though I would like to see it removed completely, moving to a different part of the article seems reasonable. Any thoughts? KohrVid (talk) 00:45, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

JzG case request declined
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For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:01, 15 June 2020 (UTC)