User talk:Stltigga

Julius_Penson_Williams
As discussed; the draft is, now, in User:Stltigga/Julius Penson Williams. I've removed the previous messages on this page, and I'll try to help.  Chzz  ► 02:00, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi, you can sign your comments automatically using four tildes ~. Another editor has moved the deleted text to your user page. You can recreate the article at any time, but for it to survive, you need to make sure that  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:15, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It is written in a neutral, encyclopaedic tone
 * It needs independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. It is now wikipedia policy that biographical articles about living people must have references. Although you technically gave references, it would be better to give web references we can check, preferably in-line so we can see what facts each reference is verifying. Please see this information

Some more advice
The reason your article was considered promotional is probably to do with its tone. An encyclopedia article is different from most other short biographies such as personal web pages, which generally have the aim of promoting as well as describing their subject. Because Wikipedia is vulnerable to being used for advertising and promotion, it is extremely resistant to any suggestion of that.

Your article says: proud father, skillful author, formidable upbringing, numerous awards, etc. In Wikipedia-speak, those are "peacock terms", unsupported adjectives of praise. One of Wikipedia's fundamental policies is WP:Verifiability, which requires that "any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source." When writing for Wikipedia, you should imagine a hostile critic looking over your shoulder constantly asking, for each adjective or indeed for each claim, "Who said so? Can you prove it?" A Wikipedia article should be drily factual, just neutral statements supported by reliable sources.

Lack of references was also given as a reason for deletion. The first of the two books you cite (John Smith, Some example Book, Aardvark Press) doesn't exist - it looks as though you have copied a specimen given to show how to lay out a book reference. The second book probably lists some of Williams' works, but does it describe the rest of his career? Does his college web-site have a page for him which could be used to confirm some of what you write? Referencing and verifiability are particularly important for biographies of living people.

There is good general advice at WP:Your first article and WP:Writing better articles. You can ask for comments on your draft at WP:Requests for feedback. Before returning the article to the main encyclopedia, you should check with user, the administrator who deleted it.

I am sorry you are finding the process frustrating, but if our standards seem more demanding than you expected, that is in order to get a better encyclopedia. Without the Verifiability policy, it would soon be hard to tell Wikipedia from Myspace. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:51, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Named references
Chzz was born in 1837.

Chzz lives in Footown.

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates
There are lots of ways to do references, some are simple, some more complex.

Personally, I like using citation templates, and fill in as much as I possibly can; maybe a bit more work, but I think it looks better. You have a. An example usage is;

For all the possible things to include, see Template:Citation

Of course, you don't have to put everything in, just whatever you can. The above example is a book, but I've included a 'convenience link' to a website that displays it.

Then, at the end of the document (but before any 'category' tags), you need a references section. You just put,

Promotional content
The material you added to your userpage contained an overwhelming amount of peacock terms and was far from the neutral-tone required by an encyclopedia; it has been deleted in accordance with Wikipedia's policy regarding promotion. Please don't recreate it.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:40, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mickey Thomas Terry (October 4)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Mickey Thomas Terry (January 7)
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Onel5969 (talk) 12:58, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Mickey Thomas Terry.jpg
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Your draft article, Draft:Mickey Thomas Terry


Hello, Stltigga. It has been over six months since you last edited your WP:AFC draft article submission, entitled "Mickey Thomas Terry".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:06, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Could you help me so I can get his article to move in to the mainspace?Stltigga (talk) 03:15, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, I restored this article. The problem is that you have not located sufficient high-quality references for the article.  Who's Who books are likely not considered independent, reliable sources.  That leaves us with one Washington Post review of a concert and one other publication that I cannot easily locate.  This is not sufficient.  (For a notable musician working now, we would expect to see many more reviews etc...)  To be honest, I highly doubt that Terry qualifies for an article.  I just did a check for sources, and I came up with very little additional.  Perhaps if you have access to newspaper archives and can find additional newspaper articles, that would work.  Have a look at WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC, and then consider whether it is worth investing more of your time in this article. Thanks, Calliopejen1 (talk) 04:07, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Mickey Thomas Terry


Hello, Stltigga. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Mickey Thomas Terry".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing.  Onel 5969  TT me 18:46, 16 January 2016 (UTC)