User talk:Stoneface1970

Speedy deletion of Boundless Planet
A tag has been placed on Boundless Planet requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. --TheSeer (TalkˑContribs) 10:02, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Try reading WP:POINT
On 1/12/08, Stoneface1970 wrote:

I would like to know your reasons for deleting one of the core MMORTS titles and many other edits that have rendered the MMORTS page as a advert for 2 released games and 3 still in beta? I will shortly be doing an article on this on www.mmortsgamers.com and give you a chance to explain this before I launch the campaign to properly edit that page and lock it from further acts of vandalism. Whilst no expert at wiki I am sure many within our community are more than familar with current events here and we can certainly generate some noise.

To my eyes - seeing your page and interests - you look like you have a MMOG agenda of your own. Am I way off here or spot on? I wil be readding Boundless planet and Time of Defiance - as well as editing dreamlords/ballerium/saga as still in beta and adding beyond protocol and Fragmented galaxy also.

Vimes www.mmortsgamers.com


 * Oh great, let's threaten to disrupt Wikipedia, that's always fun. And yes, because I play a different MMO, that means I instantly want to delete all other rivals. Lemme just walk over to the World of Warcraft page...


 * Put simply, MMORTS is not a big genre and this is Wikipedia, not Wikitrivia... we don't just go around advertising every little MMORTS in existence! Also, mmortsgamers is hardly the best site for things and just because you want to advertise a site you have a hand in running on Wikipedia, doesn't mean you shouldn't. You lambast me for turning it into an advert for a few games, when you add blatant advertising links and add a bunch of non-notable games. Woohoo for hypocrisy!


 * Time of Defiance already has a page, although it is severely neglected and could use significant additions (verifiable additions).
 * Fragmented Galaxy has 872 google hits. Now for an MMORTS, that is in beta, that is a dismal result. That is absolutely... for lack of a better word, crap. Unless there's some super famous developer or designer behind it, the game does not deserve a Wikipedia article. --TheSeer (TalkˑContribs) 08:08, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

--- For what you said on the deleting administrator's page: (The administrator hardly involved, it was a speedy nomination.)
 * Just because other articles of a similar nature exist, doesn't mean that a specific article should. That's just fishing around for evidence that isn't even evidence and is a terrible, terribly slippery slope.
 * Boundless Planet may be genre defining, but outside of a relatively small circle, it is largely unheard of. Wikipedia editors not knowing anything about MMORTS games is irrelevant. BP, or any other MMORTS needs general notability, otherwise Wikipedia would be flooded with inside jokes and garage bands.
 * And finally, threatening to expose the OBVIOUS CONSPIRACY against MMORTS articles isn't really going to help your argument. --TheSeer (TalkˑContribs) 08:20, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Notability of FG
Well, thanks for insulting my brainchild but I'd like to tell you why FG is important now.

FG has risen in status on google greatly since you comments. This is also a pioneer project. A few college and high school students have managed to put together REAL physics, a server system, models, ground combat sims, and a beautiful prototype GUI with an online help system. And that's without ever seeing each other and without a budget. This is not some school project dictated by professors, it is entirely conceived and managed by the members of the project.

That is why FG is notable.

Thank you. --Tbg10101 (talk) 03:52, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

The game is now playable, and we're adding the player-diplomacy options.

Another coder, --Diego Bank (talk) 02:24, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

~ Uhh, I needed some info on this, and assumed Wikipedia would have some. I think that makes it important. -indo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.98.18 (talk) 17:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)