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Please expand on how this article does not meet the notable threshold? There are medical journal publications, coverage on Morningstar, McKinsey and company, yahoo finance, Becker’s healthcare, filings with the SEC, over 30 patent properties, and has been in operation since 2013. Stupac88 (talk) 16:19, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Kleiner Device Labs


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This is properly cited from the article it referenced. Stupac88 (talk) 16:20, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Stupac88. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Kleiner Device Labs, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. signed,Rosguill talk 18:54, 23 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks Rosguill for your explantion. What needs to be removed? I pulled the template from the article wizard, which states the basics of an organization. I pulled the logo from the company website. I also raised a question as to whether the company website should be cited at all if you look at the deleted article (which I don't know how to). How can I prove to the folks my lack of compensation/conflict of interest? It seemed like wikipedia wanted more content on organizations and businesses based on what I read. Stupac88 (talk) 19:32, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * At this point no further action is needed, but other editors may ask you to justify your editing history, as it currently primarily consists of writing a single article with promotional text, and then complaining about its deletion. If you diversify your editing to include a broader variety of topics, there will likely be no further issues.
 * Do note however, that Kleiner Device Labs was not deleted because you were suspected of having a COI: it was deleted for being excessively promotional and for including copyright-violating content from the company's website. Because it was excessively promotional, editors reviewing it suspected you of a conflict of interest, not the other way around. You're welcome to resubmit a policy-compliant version of the article, but per the advice in the prior paragraph, I'd recommend you focus on editing other topics, especially ones that are not commonly subject to paid editing (paid editing rings frequently focus on articles about currently-active companies, organizations, recently-released media, and biographies of people up-and-coming in their fields; my suggestion would be to focus on topics outside those categories). signed,Rosguill talk 20:22, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you kindly for your guidance, I will focus on history and philosophy which are other areas of knowledge/interest. Wikipedia is one of the last bastions of content that rigorously works to keep things objective and thats why I am such a fan. I'm still learning the ropes of the contribution side. How do you determine what content to improve or expand on? Is there a workflow I can tap into? 73.73.135.223 (talk) 23:11, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has all sorts of different work backlogs to jump in on. I like to recommend WP:TASK to new editors as a good overview of many different types of work on Wikipedia as well as outlining their relative difficulty levels.
 * Also, please be careful not to edit while logged out. signed,Rosguill talk 23:21, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! the WP:TASK section was exactly what I was looking for. Categorizing is a nice way to start dipping my toes in. New articles are hard as I've learned :). Stupac88 (talk) 05:30, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Kleiner Device Labs moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Kleiner Device Labs, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Nupamjo (talk) 05:32, 26 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the guidance. I will look for more sources. I'm still getting the hang of all of the polcies and standards. Stupac88 (talk) 05:36, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * How do you move to the next WP Task without having to go back and click the random link? Feels like there should be a way to plow through faster. Stupac88 (talk) 05:49, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Kleiner Device Labs has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Kleiner Device Labs. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 05:49, 26 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I've added a number of sources that I believe meet the general notability guidelines and reliable independent sources. Thank you for the analysis. Stupac88 (talk) 14:38, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Your edit to Ultras Malaya
How is Ultras Malaya at all related to Malay-language films? —C.Fred (talk) 15:43, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

My apologies I had just edited a Malay language film article prior, and I think I must have inadvertently spaced as a result. Stupac88 (talk) 20:54, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kleiner Device Labs (August 27)
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PICKLEDICAE🥒 15:49, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

So the FDA, a peer reviewed medical journal (dove press), journalist coverage in reputable media, and financial filings from the SEC are not reliable source? Stupac88 (talk) 21:03, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

And does it make sense to have the same editor who accused me of being a paid editor and blocked me being the arbiter of this? Stupac88 (talk) 21:05, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I didn't block you, but I am an AFC reviewer and I go through them randomly by hitting "random" when this popped up. And to answer your question, no, financial filings aren't independent sources because they aren't coverage. PICKLEDICAE🥒 22:20, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Someone did, twice, and I still don't understand why, although it was right around the time I was labeled as a paid contributor unfoundedly. What is the analysis of the fda sources, peer reviewed medical journal, and industry media coverage? User:Robert McClenon provided an excellent table outlining his analysis of the source quality with respect to the standards. Stupac88 (talk) 08:02, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. My source analysis table shows that the references were all primary sources.  I was about to nominate the article for deletion before it was moved into draft space.  Please do not cite me in defense of the article.  And when you act like a paid editor, please expect people to assume that you are a paid editor until you deny the connection.  Robert McClenon (talk) 08:19, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You're writing about...
 * Potentially independent
 * Non-independent
 * a business
 * News media, government agency
 * Owner, employees, corporate website or press release, sales brochure, competitor's website
 * Independent sources Stupac88 (talk) 22:16, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * And reference-bombing a draft or article with sources including poor-quality sources is not the way to get a draft accepted either. Robert McClenon (talk) 08:22, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I was just asking for analysis of the sources. I am not a paid editor. How can I prove that? Stupac88 (talk) 17:55, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Kleiner Device Labs (September 5)
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Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:14, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

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Concern regarding Draft:Kleiner Device Labs
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