User talk:Sue Anne/Archive:1

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Ultimate Fighter template
I like the templates you've done for TUF. Keep up the good work. Shawnc 07:28, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Sources for Gambia at the 2000 Summer Olympics
Hello, good work on The Gambia at the 2000 Summer Olympics, and thanks for the contribution. However, you forgot to add any references to the article. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and there is currently a push to encourage editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. What websites, books, or other places did you learn the information that you added to The Gambia at the 2000 Summer Olympics? Would it be possible for you to mention them in the article? Thank you very much. - SimonP 04:41, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Apprentice
No problem. It is my pleasure. Enjoy working on the Olympics. Kiwidude 03:44, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Melkite Page
Thanks for writing up the very complete Melkite Greek-Catholic Church page. However I notice a discrepancy. You make reference to "Maximos IV Sayegh (1846–1878)" citing a story about Gregory II, except that Maximos IV reigned from 1947-1967, as suggested by your discussion of him and Vatican II. I hesitate just to change the dates, because you may be confusing him for someone else (though none of the patriarchs had that reign, and besides, it overlaps with Gregory). So I'm not sure how to fix this. Can you provide any insight? Eric Ewanco 13:57, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

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The Apprentice 4
I'm sorry, it didn't occur to me they were ordered alphabetically. I reordered them according to the succession they were fired. Sharksfin 02:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Infobox template
Do you have any comments on the infobox template. 

I would like to start implementing it or something like it. I've done a sample one at Kenya at the 2000 Summer Olympics.

Sue Anne 08:28, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The template looks pretty good, but don't forget that having some text for the lead into the article is a good thing. I would say use it in addition to the existing text rather than a replacement (and definitely the existing text on almost all the pages needs some heavy expanstion). -- Jonel | Speak 21:30, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Olympic Rings in svg format
That's usually how Internet Explorer handles PNG's with transparencies. (Yes, Wikipedia converts SVG's to PNG's when they are used within articles.)  Denelson83  03:05, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Conventional warfare
Hi. I noticed that you recently made an edit to conventional warfare and I was hoping you could weigh in on a particular issue there. Thanks! uriah923(talk) 22:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

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Slow 200m
That 200m time is very very slow for someone of his ability. I am asuming that is a typo in your source material. David D. (Talk) 07:15, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry to harp on this but i am now sure that the IAAF are incorrect about that time being 200m flat. The table below outlines the data for Colin jackson (WR in 110mH) and Kevin Young (WR 400mH). Their times for the 200mH are comparable to the García 200m flat time cited by the IAAF. Is there a second source for this time?  I have done a cursory search but found nothing.


 * David D. (Talk) 09:49, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Still going. It looks like that time is correct. That was a very poor performance considering most decent hurdlers run faster than that over the hurdles. Do you think it is worth including? David D. (Talk) 10:27, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Living people with AutoWikiBrowser
Can you please turn category sorting off? For soccer player profiles, there is a definite structure on how the categories are listed, such as the teams the player played on are listed in chronological order, not alphabetical. So I ended up reverting some of these changes. DR31 (talk) 14:29, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Countries at the 2006 Winter Olympics
Hi! Thank you for creating the articles on Argentina and Bermuda. However, I think you ought to be a bit careful with creating those pages based on the Torino 2006 site yet - I know for a fact that a lot of Norwegian and Dutch athletes that are listed have not been selected by the Norwegian Olympic Committee, so I guess this could be the fact for other countries, too. Sam Vimes 08:03, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Medal Infobox
Oh, I had already done that infobox the day before you made that! :o\ (See )  Ahh well, I updated yours so that the olympic rings picture meshes better with the background color. I also added a, because I have seen this on rare occasions where a medal was taken away, and I believe this is significant. I wanted to add it to the talk pages, but first, I wanted to clear it through you...  As for my own template, should I just point it to these ones here? Or send them off to TfD? There are only several articles that use it so far, so it's not a big deal. Let me know. tiZom(the man) 06:42, 3 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, hey, sorry, didn't see that you'd made that one. My only thing is that Olympic record (btw, holy cripes does that need more info...) has a meaning similar to world record, and therefore having it as a header for the box might be confusing (perhaps just "Olympic medals" might work?).  But the background color definitely looks better.  And the Disqualified one is nice for these people (at least, the ones who won medals before being caught).  I suggest redirects for the duplicate templates, as that's less work than TfDing them ;) but do whatever you feel should be done with them.  -- Jonel | Speak 03:33, 4 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The only thing that I don't like is the red color of the disqualified box. The rest of the colors are jewel tones and the bright red doesn't match the style of those. Sue Anne 06:03, 4 February 2006 (UTC)


 * How about using, say, bgcolor=pink to give:


 * How does that look? We could play around with the colors a little more, still. -- Jonel | Speak 21:00, 4 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey I noticed you had an idea for the Olympic Medal Record box - and I like it a lot. I also had problems with that bright red box (although, if an olympian is cheating at the olympics, then I think he might deserve something so blaring!)  But anyway, I'm changing it to pink.  We can always change it later ;o)  tiZom(the man)  21:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

2006 Olympics photos
Dear Anne Sue, please spread the message anywhere you like :-) More people know about it, the better! Thanks for your help, just keep an eye on Commons:Category:2006 Winter Olympics, we've just started adding pictures :-) Ary29 18:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Italy at 2006 Winter Olympics
Hi. Thanks for your additions to the Italy at the 2006 Winter Olympics, but I'm wondering - why do you put all the names as last names first? Bigdottawa 12:44, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

About that medal infobox...
I think that the country flag should be listed somewhere on the page of each athlete, don't you? It really would help draw a focus to the olympian's nationality, and I think that's important here. I just don't know where to put it :o\ I was thinking about somewhere in the medal infobox, but I can't think of where it might look good - at the top, in-line with each medal, etc. Any ideas? tiZom(2¢) 21:19, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that would make it look a bit cluttered. Since these boxes are designed to use on an athletes page wouldn't their nationality be obvious? David D. (Talk) 21:30, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * There's room in that top box with the Olympic flag that a national flag might look okay next to it, But, I'm sort of ambivalent about it. Sue Anne 22:11, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I guess I come from the school that if nationality is really important in the case of olympians, then it should be instantly recognizable on their pages. And I don't want to add another parameter (namely, the country flag) after I've gone through them all and converted them to the infobox. But I'll hold off for now :o) tiZom(2¢)  19:42, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

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Archiving Winter Olympics Talk Page
I feel that some of the discussions are past. However, I'm very sorry to have archived it. -- SNIyer12, (talk), 17:51, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Olympic country pages
What I don't like is this:

Alpine skiing
Men's Combined
 * Ted Ligety
 * Slalom - 1:27.93
 * Downhill - 1:41.42
 * Final - 3:09.35 (Gold medal)
 * Scott Macartney
 * Slalom - 1.32.99
 * Downhill - 1:40.06
 * Final - 3:13.05 (16th place)

What do these 1., 2., 3. refer to? Nothing apparently. This seems to make much more sense:

Alpine skiing
Men's Combined
 * Ted Ligety
 * Slalom - 1:27.93
 * Downhill - 1:41.42
 * Final - 3:09.35 (Gold medal)
 * Scott Macartney
 * Slalom - 1.32.99
 * Downhill - 1:40.06
 * Final - 3:13.05 (16th place)

or

Alpine skiing
Men's Combined
 * Ted Ligety
 * Slalom - 1:27.93
 * Downhill - 1:41.42
 * Final - 3:09.35 (Gold medal)


 * Scott Macartney
 * Slalom - 1.32.99
 * Downhill - 1:40.06
 * Final - 3:13.05 (16th place)

Rmhermen 18:28, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Be careful
When fixing mispellings - in image names. This can cause the image to be removed from the article.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 21:49, 16 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Image needs to be fixed on commons and then fixed at http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akademia_Ekonomiczna_w_Krakowie in addition to the two pages on the en site.

Olympic conventions
Hey Sue, I know you're interested in Olympic coverage. Some people have started a discussion on conventions at Olympic conventions. Just letting you know. -- Jonel | Speak 01:32, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey Sreed!
I'm here, along with Celestianpower to be your Admin Coach, and I'm just dropping by to let you know that if you have any questions, feel free to ask either myself or Celestian, and happy editing! - Mys  e  kurity 02:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi! Sorry for being so late but I didn't notice you'd been assigned to me :P! Well, as Mysekurity said, we'd be happy to answer any questions you may have. Esperanzial regards, --Cel es tianpower háblame 19:52, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Are you there? This needs your URGENT attention Sue Anne. Cmon, surely you should ACT atleast this time.
Hi,

Are you there Sue Anne? This needs your urgent attention.

Apropos my earlier message to you, I removed the pathetic PA from Royboycrashfan 's talk page and warned Crossmr against the PA along with a fair note. Please do read that note.

But he removed my first warning and also reverted back the pathetic PA comment on roy's user page ALONG WITH pathetic PA's AGAIN, in both edit summaries.

I gave him a final warning as he repeatedly violated NPA and would not cease and desist.

Yet he continued with his same unacceptable behaviour.

The edit histories of the talk pages of User_talk:Royboycrashfan and User_talk:Crossmr will make this very clear. He keeps deleting and reverting along with PA's in the edit summary inspite of being EXPLICITLY warned.

This is totally unacceptable. Please do take immediate action.

You know me, atleast a little. There is no way anyone can get away with calling me a vandal. You know I am not here to vandalize, but I have contributed meaningfully to a few articles whatever little time I have been on here.

Of course, there were a few misinformed civil issues along the way (which served to inform me about the policy on civility, NPA etc.), but after the block and blowing off a little steam, my behaviour has been perfectly good as can be expected of any genuine user.

even Vesther for that matter with whom I had a little argument would not call me a vandal.

Also there is another admin Nearly Headless Nick who has appreciated my edits to a certain page. Also have made a few edits to other articles the few times i was on.

But surely just because anyone is a very occasional user, that CANNOT be used as an excuse for letting anyone get away with PAs.

Also, NPA specifically states that earlier misinformed mistakes and behaviour CANNOT be used as an EXCUSE for a PA. If people kept harping on about old issues, it would become acceptable to attack anyone as everyone makes mistakes in the past.

Crossmr just CANNOT be allowed to get away with his unacceptable MALICIOUS behaviour.

Please BLOCK him symbolically for whatever time you feel is right, to mainly PREVENT him and later forbid him from:

1. Reverting the pathetic PA on Roy's page along with the pathetic PA edit summaries.

2. Removing my very first warning message with a very civil note. I dont care about the second warning, but the first warning serves as a placeholder for record's sake.

Even after EXPLICIT and SPECIFIC warnings not to continue, he continued with his unacceptable behaviour and BLATANTLY violated NPA that too in edit summaries. Even after being explicitly advised to assume good faith (AGF), he has failed to do so.

Cmon, for whatever you think of me (ur earlier silence), you KNOW I am not a vandal.

Please take appropriate steps as a fair and upright ADMIN.

I am logging off now, other stuff to do. Will log on tomorrow.

I do hope and expect you to symbolically block Crossmr, which will prevent him from continuing to behave unacceptably as he has blatantly violated NPA even after being repeatedly warned about it.

Thank you.

Best regards.

User06201 21:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Sue, do take symbolic action as soon as u read my above message as it is totally unacceptable. Best regards. Bye, till tomorrow. User06201 22:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I recommend you ignore this message and perhaps delete it. User:Crossmr was reasonably watching a clearly suspicious user and noted it on the talk page of an administrator. User:User06201 then repeatedly deleted the message from the administrator's Talk page and made unwarranted threats of blocking to User:Crossmr. —Centrx→talk &bull; 18:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Photo deletion
Hi. See IfD for details about deletion policy. --JW1805 (Talk) 23:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Why did you schedule my personal photo for deletion?! --Torourkeus 02:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

.........

Hi. Yeah, I wanted to delete Maria2.jpg, but didn't know how. So it's cool with me that it's been nominated for deletion. Do I have to do anything else to have it deleted, or the process is now automatic? Thanks! Raystorm 10:29, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Photo deletion, Image:Gjirokastra-houses.jpg
Fixed. Not sure why it wasn't showing the CC license, because I thought I selected it when I posted it. Anyway, it's been corrected. Acarvin 15:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Looking for articles to work on?
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Olympics: spaces before unit symbols
I know that you have a view on this matter. Please see discussion at: Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_%28dates_and_numbers%29. Regards bobblewik 13:32, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Chronological Order
Hey Sue!

Hope I'm not intruding, but I noticed that you were changing the order of the medals, and undoing my changes (probably without even knowing it!) Anyway, this subject came up in Chronological record item order? on the MedalTop template talk, and some of us figured that, because the medals are easily distinguishable, but the years are not, that we would sort by year first, and then medal type. Any thoughts on this? Thanks! tiZom<sub style="color:black;">(2¢) 00:17, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Cross-country skiing vs. cross country skiing
Hello, Sue Anne. I replied to your objection to my speedy renaming of Category:Cross country skiers at the 2006 Winter Olympics to Category:Cross-country skiers at the 2006 Winter Olympics right under your objection:. I don't know if that is a correct use of the speedy page, but I did not know any better. In any case, I included a number of links in my rebuttal, including the Torino Olympics official results page and various Wikipedia pages and indices, as well as links to the Merriam-Webster Online dictionary for "cross-country" and "cross country". Please reply here or on my talk page so that we may come to an agreement on this issue. Thank you, and best regards. -- Mareklug talk  07:05, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * This was delisted from Speedy as contested, so I moved my nomination (and all the conversation that followed it) to the regular categories for renaming page:  -- Mareklug  talk  04:46, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Stop Deleting my Images
Hi Sue Anne. Could you please not be a ninny and try to delete my images. They provide a useful service to Wikipedia, and the second would stand up in court if it's challenged by the sledder herself. Having an image of the person improves the article, please don't go out of your way to delete perfectly good images. --Nick Dillinger 20:44, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for your help with the unfree-copyrighted image issue. In case there is any confusion, keep in mind that Fair use is a defense one can claim when one infringes upon copyright. All of the material we use under Fair use is infringing on copyright; we are claiming that our use of it can be legally justified. That said, professional photography taken from news agencies is actually a bad idea per Fair use criteria #2. Let me know if you have any more questions, and consider checking out WikiProject Fair use if you are interested. Thanks. Jkelly 22:27, 24 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Just a note of support for you in regards to the above. You are following Wikipedia image policy correctly. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 22:43, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * By "you", who are you refering too in your support? --Nick Dillinger 20:14, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me?
If you read the entire summary, you would've known the author released rights to use it on Wikipedia. So there is no reason to delete it. Tag it with the appropriate tag using the information I provided if you feel more needs to be done. Thanks. Эйрон Кинни (t) 00:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Twenty Foreplay
Anne Sue, I got the image of Twenty Foreplay from www.eil.com and search "twenty foreplay". How do I get copyright information if it is needed?

First, Second, Third World image
Those maps were created by me. So I hold the copyright. Who is complaining? Anwar saadat 07:04, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Shaun White
Hi. Thanks for swapping the photo format. I wasn't aware of that. Incidentally, http://www.usocpressbox.org has USOC portraits of all 2004 and 2006 team members, which would help illustrate at least 100 or 200 US athelte bios. I've been going through them and chopping off the tag on the bottom before adding them as promo pics, as stated on the licensing. Regards, <span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid; padding:0px 2px 2px 2px; color:white; background-color:darkblue; font-weight:bold">ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! 06:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Cross-server links
I find the cross-server links are improperly marked up in many articles like missing opening colons. Is this a typo-epidemic? Or am I meddling with some kinda protocol here? I bothered to change some dozen links in Tamil_Nadu and United_Arab_Emirates Anwar saadat 19:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Greenday3.jpg and Realpunka.png
You can delete those, they were accidently uploaded. Psychomel @  di(s)cussion  19:30, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Image
Please do delete it. The involved parties decided not to use this image.--Zereshk 02:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

CSD-G1
Hi Sreed1234! You've tagged a number of images for speedy deletion under criterion G1 - Patent nonsense, i.e. no meaningful content, unsalvageably incoherent page. None of the images were patent nonsense; it's hard to judge whether a photograph has meaningful content, and impossible for a photo to be incoherant (although, as my holiday snaps attest, I try my best!). I'm afraid we don't have a speedy criterion that covers deleting an image that is useless and they need to go to IfD instead.

I've removed the speedy tags as the tag isn't justified. However, the images were all source-less, so I've put them into NLD for today. Cheers! ➨ ❝ R E  DVERS ❞ 11:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)




 * Hi Sue! Thanks for your understanding. Criteria for Speedy Delete are hellish things. They're always too tight in one direction and too loose in another and everybody ties themselves in knots over them at some point (indeed, I'm currently engaged in a painful debate about CSD-R3 (pointless redirects), having shamefacedly undeleted 30 things today that I deleted yesterday - and, to prove the point, of the 3 editors who joined me, one won't undelete, one has undeleted and one has asked for advice... so these things are clearly, er, not very clear sometimes!). :o) ➨ ❝ R E  DVERS ❞ 22:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Old Skool Esperanzial note
Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Cel es tianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Cathedral of Chihuahua Image
I'll not help wikipedia anymore if you still doubting on my picture, how can i proove it, i was trying to help and you destroy my work without arguments, isn't this a enciclopedya where evryone can edit??? That was my picture and you destroyed my work, what would you feel about that? I'm very upset and dissapointed about all of this! I do not who deleted, but i think is your deed.

Image copyright problem with Image:A10 strike.jpg
The image is a released Air Force photo and I tagged it as such. --Ian 19:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Ashley Callus - AWB bug
hi there Sue Anne. I'm wondering if there is a bug in the AWB that you are using to change the medal format, because your semi-automatic fixed changed Callus' gold medal in the table to a bronze medal. Regards, <span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid; padding:0px 2px 2px 2px; color:white; background-color:darkblue; font-weight:bold">ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 00:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Haeckel Actiniae edit.jpg
''Thanks for uploading Image:Haeckel Actiniae edit.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. . . .''
 * It now has the PD-old tag. --Janke | Talk 06:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Your editor review
Hi there. I have done a review for you. I've also put myself up, by the way. Regards,<span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid; padding:0px 2px 2px 2px; color:white; background-color:darkblue; font-weight:bold">ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 08:06, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

My first 3RR notice
Just to clarify ...

I should have used this instead of this?

Thanks. Sue Anne 02:31, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly :) Stifle (talk) 11:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey, just telling you that you don't need to worry about the picture called "Trueinheritancesuspenders.jpg" because it's from my camera. So don't worry, because I have the copyright. It's just my userpage picture, that's all. David G Brault 19:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words - I am going to avoid that page for a few more days - I started reading it after I got your note and between the (paraphrasing) "I am going to ask these questions to Troedel in good faith" followed by the very first question which I feel I have answered more than once on the same page, I was convinced I needed to stay away for a little while longer. 02:07, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

RfA
Hi Sue Anne! Checking your recent work, I was thinking of nominating you for an admin. What do you think? --Ton e  09:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I am glad you are interested. Please confirm you acceptance here: Requests for adminship/Sreed1234 and then post it to the RfA page. Good luck with the nomination! --Ton e  19:24, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

List of temples...
done Abeo Paliurus 02:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA
I've added two questions to your RfA. When you have a minute, I'd appreciate if you would take a look at them. Thanks. JoshuaZ 22:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

List of temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
I have determined not to get in an edit war again - but Gellerson reverts contrary to the views expressed on the talk page - can you help??? Trödel 21:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I misunderstood what Trödel was doing - and have left his edit as-is, except for removing a duplicative heading and fixing spelling. I read your comment on Trödel's page - you write that I "[keep] changing other people's edits back to '[my]' version", but aren't the other people doing just the same? Denvoran 21:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think "everyone else" wants to keep things one way -- otherwise why did you put up the poll? Please note that I am trying to compromise -- does that deserve any respect? Denvoran 22:21, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I've been adding lists of current and former Temple presidents to the pages, but those additions are being reverted. Are you like me and think that who has presided over Temples is of note? Anyways, would just like your thoughts.--Carterdriggs 08:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Greetings
Hi. I saw your name pop up on my watchlist, and now it's been bugging me because your name sounds super familiar. I just can't figure out where we've crossed paths before. Sue Anne 21:32, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I don't see enough information to be able to tell who you are. I've lived in Brigham City, Bolivia, Provo, and Salt Lake City. Online, I've been posting for several years with my real name on Eric D. Snider's message board. Hope that helps. Let me know.--Ryan Reeder 04:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA
Congratulations, you are an admin now. Keep on with the good work! --Ton e  20:58, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations. Also, if you create any articles with interesting facts, you can submit for inclusion on the main page at Template talk:Did you know. As an admin, you can noe update this template, which normal users like me cannot. Regards, <span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid; padding:0px 2px 2px 2px; color:white; background-color:darkblue; font-weight:bold">ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 03:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I wish to congratulate you on your recent RfA. I am happy for you and good luck for the future! -- S iva1979 <sup style="background:yellow;">Talk to me  03:43, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, sorry others beat me to it. :) I had something important come up when I was in the middle of leaving a congratulatory message for you. I recommend being conservative with the admin tools especially at first. Re-read the relevant policy before you take any actions, and for anything you're particularly unsure of, put it up on the administrator's noticeboard. Also it wouldn't be a bad idea to redirect your old user and talk pages to the new location to avoid confusion. - Taxman Talk 11:23, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I was just looking at the recently promoted admins and I saw your name. I guess I messed this before when I posted another message below. Anyway, congrats on your victory. I look forward to seeing you helping out Wikipedia as an admin. → &ensp; J <font color="D06000"> @ red &ensp; 21:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Block user
Sue, could you please look at User:68.229.152.169 and User:130.70.148.189, as they have been vandalizing the 2008 Summer Olympics page repetedly. Thanks. → &ensp; J <font color="D06000"> @ red &ensp; 11:17, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Please stop calling me a vandal. For some reason I kept thinking that everyone is equally allowed to edit Wikipedia. Maybe I got it wrong..., are there authoritative editors? And instead of complaining about me blanking (in the discussions), how about addressing some of the points I made regarding the article if you feel equally strongly about it? 130.70.148.189 18:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I appreciate your help. It was just getting kind of frustrating. → &ensp; J <font color="D06000"> @  red &ensp; 22:37, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Deleting an image
I copy and pasted the copyright, author and all other information in to the summary box provided when uploading an image.

WikiProject Figure Skating
--F a ng Aili 說嗎? 19:17, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Good work


Saw you out there doing a lot of good work, especially with images, and wanted you to know it's been noticed and appreciated. Keep up the good work, and if I can be of any help, let me know. Essjay <font color="#7b68ee">(  Talk  •  Connect  ) 08:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:M2mwy logo.jpeg for deletion
Hi Sue Anne, I agree that it meets the criteria for speedy deletion, so please delete the image – it was uploaded in error anyway. Cheers. -Techelf 11:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Olympic award.
I don't understand what you're trying to say. If you're suggesting that I got the picture from the Olympic.org page (which I did, so you're good!), I thought that everything on that page was free use. I guess I don't know where I got that though, but I thought I remembered reading it somewhere, so I pulled the image from: http://www.olympic.org/uk/games/torino/open_torch_uk.asp

So now, what are you suggesting that I do? → &ensp;<font color="#369">J ARED &ensp;(t)&ensp; 20:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, &mdash;Cel es tianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

BenH
He is a problem editor. Look at his contributions. CoolKatt number 99999 05:02, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Michael Gruber and Matti Nykänen
1. The reason I put Michael Gruber with one medal in the Team Nordic Combined event is if you look at the IW link Nordic combined at the Winter Olympics, specifically it shows that in the team event at the 2002 Winter Olympics, it shows a Christoph Gruber with a bronze and Michael Gruber winning the Gold at the 2006 Winter Olympics. If they are the same person, then I understand what you had done, I appreciate what you did, and I will change Christoph's name to Michael's. If they are not, then we need to change that back to how I had set it up.

2. In regards to medals, I have always believed in putting Gold Medals first regardless if it were in later Olympics compared from other medals earned in earlier Olympics. This was why I moved Nykänen's silver medal from the 1984 Winter Olympics down to the bottom on his medal table. I have seen this done on many other athletes as well. For example, Athlete X competed in four Olympics from Seoul (1988) to Sydney (2000), earning 8 medals, including 4 Golds (2 in 1992, 1 in 1996, and 1 in 2000), 3 Silvers (2 in 1988, 1 in 1996), and 1 Bronze (2000). I would put the table shown below:

Your thoughts on this. Chris 12:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Adjusted Michael Gruber in the Nordic combined at the Winter Olympics and at Nordic combined at the 2002 Winter Olympics. Will put Christoph Gruber up for deletion since they are one and the same. Chris 13:23, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


 * This is a follow up to Matti Nykänen. I am in the the process of overhauling the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships, inlcuding creating the individual championships, and plan on adding the world championship medals to their Olympic medals (if they have them) in the near future, similar to what was done on Carl Lewis in athletics as an example. I plan on putting this as the years he has them, but I will leave them in the gold-silver-bronze format per how it was already set up. Your thoughts on this. Chris 22:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Andreas Widhozl
Adjusted Andreas Wildhözl per you request yesterday. Chris 13:25, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Images you put up for deletions
The images you put up for deletion I agree with. Delete all of them. Help me on what is valid on getting all images in the future. I am at your mercy. Chris 13:28, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Also let Jonel that I will also want the issues in question as well on Images. Chris 13:39, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Image follow-up
FYI. Just wanted to let you know I put up new images on V-style and the Kongsberger technique. The former I got from the Ski jumping at the 2006 Winter Olympics while the latter I got from Wikipedia:Commons from the 1928 Winter Olympics. Thanks for your advice and help on this. Chris 14:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
I noticed you restored a picture that was recently removed from the Heinen's Fine Foods article. Thank you. Bluebul1989 23:39, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

MedalSummary template
Thanks for using the new template!! I'm glad to see it catch on. I made an important change tonight - you can now specify an alternate flag to over-ride the default, so we can use this for all the early Games too. I have tried it out on some of the 1900 Games pages and it works great. Thanks again, Andrwsc 05:24, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

2010 Winter Olympics
Hi Sue Anne &mdash; just a heads-up on the edits you made to 2010 Winter Olympics. The recent editor of much of that section is User:Roitr/sockpuppeter, who has also been causing a lot of grief on the Olympic sports and Demonstration sport pages. You might want to be prepared to revisit that page to look for reverts to your edits (which, by the way, are excellent references). This user will often revert to her/his version without regard for superior references. Andrwsc 23:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

The Apprentice 4
I really hate to talk about a controversy again and again, but after thinking it over and over regarding about the outcome of The Apprentice 4, I have some takes that I have to declare: Just my 2 cents. No further major edits done as of this time, with the exception of my closing thoughts of The Apprentice 4. &mdash; Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 01:23, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Being fiercely loyal to someone may be good but sometimes in business that is not always the case. Remember that Rebecca defended Toral since Rebecca believed what Toral did was right?  Jennifer W. believed that Toral should've been fired, but Rebecca believed in Toral's abilities.  Apparently, I felt that the women didn't get along at all.  However, I think that's somewhat a firing flaw, one of the reasons why I believe that "Fired" fitted better on Rebecca's application profile than "Not Hired" (The Apprentice Rules also believes that).  Impartiability and not being fiercely loyal to someone is what I think Mr. Trump wants as his Apprentice.
 * Not winning a task even with super hard-to-work-with people is also a problem. Randal can manage and ensure that hard-to-work-with people contribute to the wins, and he even showed that he can also win a task even with hard-to-work-with people like Clay for example.  Rebecca, though, I felt that the only way she can win is that she has very easy-to-work-with people, strong contributors (ala Randal), whatever I can think of.  While Mr. Trump felt that he wanted to also hire Rebecca, I felt that Mr. Trump nearly made a fatal mistale by doing so, because the key in hiring an apprentice is the ability to lead hard-to-work with people, give lots of directions, and pull the team together.  That's another reason why I felt that "Fired" fit better on Rebecca's app status.
 * I think that the Audience doesn't get the real reasons why Randal didn't recommend a double-hiring, and I felt that Mr. Trump shouldn't have proceeded in hiring Rebecca under any circumstances. I don't know why the audience booed at Randal's recommendation for Mr. Trump not to hire Rebecca.  After looking at the proven results of Rebecca and Randal, I think that another reason yet Rebecca should've been labeled as "Fired" is because Rebecca, as I really hate to state this after the edit war, lacks substance, and substance is something of a serious matter I take.
 * I also only permitted the South African decision to go on the general Apprentice page a while ago, but I felt that Tokyo Sexwale made a HUGE MISTAKE in hiring two people, as I really have to be harsh on this as a double-hiring would equate to a really bad decision not because of jealousy purposes, but also CEOs have to really set up a budget for its workforce as well, and I felt that Mr. Sexwale didn't consider his company's budget during the hiring of the finale.

Re:Account
Greetings via my new account!

Thanks for the encouragement.

Newbie,learning 18:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Block of 219.91.203.71
Did you read the message he left on my talk page? He could barely get through a sentence without insulting Vesther in some manner. His block wasn't for the tralala stuff, it was for his response when asked to play nice. Not to mention the intense hostility being directed at the blocking admin now.--Crossmr 03:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately there is no excuse for incivility on wikipedia, and no place for "He started it". This user is showing extreme hostility in every talk message he leaves regardless of who its towards. As for not leaving a civlity tag on vesther's page, I only came across his comment. I didn't investigate into the whole exchange (which I'll now do). But as I said, regardless of what was said to him, its no excuse for his retaliatory behaviour. I've been dealing with a user who refues to take responsibility for his behaviour for some time now. We don't need to add to that problem by having more users all to willing to do the same.--Crossmr 03:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well I've had a look at the edits and edits summaries over at Apprentice 4 and a look at the talk dialogue between them. While Vesther did refer to his chat as tralala and useless as well, I can see the IP being uncivil long before it got to that, with this edit summary . It doesn't excuse Vester's commment and I'll mention the same thing to him about choosing better words, but the users edit summaries and aggressiveness here just isn't appropriate.--Crossmr 03:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

'''Wow, look to what all you are admitting Crossmr. Firstly you admit to giving me a warning without even understanding the issue, without even reading vesther's message and reading mine and without giving him a warning.'''

Next message you just write that dont use tralala.

so, till ur second message u did not even read or understand the issue and you gave 1 warning and 1 reply?

wow, amazing, thats how u admins operate on wiki these days.

next thing, i am blocked.

and then u accuse me of hostility after blocking me?

this is ridiculous.

Sue, thanks for ur support.

'''I agree that statement was civil, thats why i did not say that to vesther, saying, now that would be uncivil. also, when people complain about u to admins and admins give u an unfair warning, a little hostility and exasperation is to be expected.'''

this is an equal playing field not an admin fiefdom.

'''looking at this display of admins on wiki, any person on wiki will indeed understand now what wiki has come too!! lol.'''

this is a classic case of abuse of admin priveleges.

these power-mad admins issue warnings and blocks without any rhyme or reason.

just imagine till 2 messages, crossmr did not even read the messages behind the issue, SO HOW MUCH DO U THINK roy AA KNEW ABOUT THE ISSUE AT ALL as he is the one who blocked me even as i was talking to crossmr?

'''and now after blocking they are analyzing the issue. ridiculous.'''

any regular person will tell you that THERE IS NO WAY A CASE FOR BLOCKING THAT TOO WITHOUT ANY WARNING OF BEING BLOCKED!!!!

THEY JUST SAID, BE NICE and BLOCKED.

'''no second warning, no warning of blocking. just blocked.'''

'''and now they are justifying it by digging up old issues which were NEVER EVER issues to being with. ridiculous. it reflected extremely badly on these admins. very poor. they know how poor and incompetent they are as admins. shame on them.'''

really, its because of such admins that wiki is going down the drain.

'''I am sure such admins have a pattern of abuse in the past. This should be investigated and action taken. This has gone on too far in wiki and it cant be god for wiki.'''

These admins should be blocked for atleast a week or a month for them to reflect upon how many people they have blocked unfairly and wrongly with gross abuse of admin PRIVELEGES and wiki should take away all their admin rights, they do not deserve them at all.

once again i thank u sue, and upon my above statements, i think it would be fair for u to unblock me.

'''in any case, even if u dont unblock me, i think i have successfully exposed the intentions and actions of certain admins who thought they could get away with gross abuse of admin priveleges. and i certainly will be complaining about them.'''

- u know who.

ps. sorry for the non-formatting, i tried. Please re-arrange.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.203.97 (talk • contribs) 03:56, 26 July 2006

I didn't block you. Continued block evasion is only going to lead to an extended block though. As I said, regardless of the behaviour on Vesther's part, your incivility is not excused by it. --Crossmr 04:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Scratchspin
Crud, I was worried about something like that. Could they fall under Fair Use? (I have a hard time with image policy.) --Fang Aili talk 18:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I've reviewed some of the image policies.. looks like Fair Use does not work here, but maybe Creative Commons would. (Looking at "Hoo"'s usage requirements on her webpage, perhaps one of the CC licenses would be compatible. We could get permission from her, possibly.) If you could hold off on proposing them for deletion at least until Vesperholly gets back online, I'd appreciate it. She may have gotten GFDL permission through an email or something.


 * I also noticed that when uploading an image, one of the licensing options is "The copyright holder gave me permission to use this work in Wikipedia articles." If Vesperholly got permission directly from Hoo, does this mean the pictures can stay? Thanks for your help. --Fang Aili talk 20:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I contacted Andrea Chempinski directly via email and she gave me permission to use her photos on Wikipedia: "I do allow Wikipedia to use my photos but they must include "(c) Andrea "Hoo" Chempinski" in the caption of the photo with a link to www.scratchspin.com. So long as this is done you can put photos on whichever skater pages you'd like." Vesperholly 20:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Just thought of this: Should I need to go back to Chempinski and specify which license she will release the images under? CC, GFDL, etc? Please do not delete the images until I've gotten further responses from Chempinski - she seems amenable to it. BTW I'm a she. Vesperholly 20:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the link. I'm going to e-mail Chempinski right now and see what she wants to do re: licensing. Could you hold off on deleting the images until I receive a response? Much appreciated. Vesperholly 20:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Olympic sport capitalization
Hi Sue Anne, I see you're doing a mass edit to replace "Table Tennis" with "Table tennis". Thanks! Do you feel up to also changing "Water Polo" to "Water polo" and "Synchronized Swimming" to "Synchronized swimming"? ;)  Andrwsc 03:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Capitalization adjusted
Capitalization is adjusted to template mentioned in message. Chris 11:52, 2 August 2006 (UTC)


 * All of the templates I created (And some I did not) have been adjusted. I looked at the MOS Capitalization on the rules regarding the capitalization, and I have a question. If someone is a World Champion of something like Formula 1, would you put it at "Formula 1 World Champion" or "Formula 1 world champion?" We may be in a gray area on this that may require further discussion, including the Olympic champions in specific sports and specific events. All of the official Olympic events I have seen from official reports [www.aafla.org (Amateur Athletic Foundation of Los Angeles, CA)] has the listings of the first letter of the sport capitalized (Athletics as an example) and the events of a specific distance are shown as "Men's 100m" instead of "men's 100m." The same thing would occur with Sailing (formerly Yachting) and their classes, like Tornado (catamaran). Would the event be classified as "Tornado" or "tornado"? Your thoughts on this? Chris 11:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Paul Wylie
Thanks for looking into his degree. Cheers, Fang Aili talk 20:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Portal Picture
Thanks for doing that. I know its important to keep up the search for fair use pictures in non-mainspace pages. The problem, I think, with keeping up an Olympic Portal is that the choice of images is very slim, almost to none. Just about all of them are fair use, which is a bother, I know, but we can't really do anything about it. Oh Well. Thanks for being a good wikipedian! And letting me know! →  &ensp;<font color="#369">J ARED &ensp;(t)&ensp; 13:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Why it's best to say "Mr. Trump" and more
While both you and I have vehement disagreements in this "Apprentice" article, the reason why I use "Mr. Trump" is because Donald Trump is a business figure, and literally, I'm trying to get the article into a business-style tone as much as possible. Minutae isn't too important as I try to replace the minutae with key elements on what happened (That is why I lose the quotes). That is why Mr. Trump, IMO, should be used. Just saying the last name, IMO, is not respectful at all.

The reason why I capitalize descriptions (i.e. Initial Boardroom) is because when you describe bulleting and bold it (i.e. This bullet vs. This Bullet) with a colon, it needs to be as much attention-grabbing as possible. IMO I really don't think "This bullet" would be much of an attention-grabber. I'm not gonna debate on the capitalization conventions here.

I am extremely harsh on how the bullets are written. For example, "Not hired on season finale" should be "Not hired on television" instead, since the "not hiree" may be considered employment in the future, but is no eligible to reapply for candidacy-ship. Also, The Apprentice is NOT a game show, it is an unusual job interview, so the participants in this show should be called Applicants instead. Also, the bulleting should be summarized (which I strive to do), something that I was not happy about when I saw the first three episodes of the season being too wordy and too descriptive. I watch the wording VERY CAREFULLY.

To conclude, minutae isn't too important, but also how the contents of a bullet should be carefully done. For example, I detested "Alla and Company" since it's vague&mdash;people wanted to know who impolitely asked Toral to wear a poorly-designed costume. I checked out the Yahoo! Apprentice pages and saw that Alla, Felisha, Kristi, and Jennifer M. were the ones who impolitely forced Toral to wear the costume.

When it comes to articles, I try to make things as "On-Topic" as I can. I was really frustrated when I saw the Tokyo Sexwale reference lurking in this article, and in order to make things uniform, decided to lose the Tokyo Sexwale reference (IceDrake had a complaint about the Martha Stewart references in this article). Also, since The Apprentice is a Business-style Job Interview marketed as a reality television show, it should be written in a business-style tone. It shouldn't be viewed as an entertainment show, because editors tend to make it an entertaining show simply because of the editing.

I hope this will be the last time both you and I have to debate on this. I don't want to get into an edit war with anyone (after the Rebecca Jarvis debate), but just keep in mind that people shouldn't be watching The Apprentice as means for entertainment, but rather for lessons in the real workplace, since this is a business-oriented reality show. That is why I'm encouraging things to be written as business-like as possible. The applicants themselves can be called by their first name, but Donald Trump should be addressed as Mr. Trump. Just calling him "Trump" or "The Donald" is too entertainment-ish, and is not a good tone to use for any Apprentice article IMO. &mdash; Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 00:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: Your last reply
I really don't like the fact that you assumed very bad faith on my edits. I tried to assume good faith on everyone, but your last message alerted me that you had no faith in me whatsoever. Considering that you consider my capitalization style as being controversial (and the fact that you've unloaded harsh criticism of my capitalization habits), I'm gonna have to debate this at the discussion "Manual of Style (capital letters)". &mdash; Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 02:11, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

WP:AN/I
Even as a cursory regard makes plain&mdash;at least to me&mdash;that you are correct apropos of many of these style issues, and notwithstanding that your conduct vis-à-vis Vesther seems to have been altogether cordial and reasoned, such that you needn't to defend yourself, you might be interested in commenting on this AN/I thread, in which Vesther, surely not maliciously and ostensibly in view of a good-faith misunderstanding of the meaning of WP:AGF, suggests that you've assumed bad faith relative to his editing. Thought you ought to be aware of the discussion's existence... :) Joe 06:28, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Take Swift Stern Action against this guy
Hi Sue,

Long time. How are you?

I visit wikipedia only occasionally these days.

I just came across this:

I think you should give Crossmr a stern warning of NPA and CIVIL on his talk page and I think you should remove that despicable PA and uncivil comment(check out the heading/edit of the comment /edit summary /etc.) from royaa's talk page. Or let me know if I should personally give him that warning and remove that despicable comment myself. I would be happy to do that. Thanks.

It seems that Crossmr is acting with a malicious instigative agenda. He keeps rambling on about old things and keeps repeating himself (and his instigations) about them. It seems that he is unable to move on, and let peace reign, and is hung up on old already-settled bloated issues, not to mention non-issues. He seems to want to live in the past. And to think that this guy goes around placing warnings of CIVIL and NPA on other user's talk pages. Talk about missing the plank for the speck. Tsk tsk. LOL. He should pay attention to his own Block Log and history!!!!! lol.

He also needs to learn properly about AGF and pipe down.

His ill-intended comments are obviously malicious and deliberately provocative. But instead of me being provoked, he only serves to amuse me. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. But it has to be made clear to him that his uncivil rants are totally unacceptable and will not be tolerated. I think coming from an admin will make him, a general user, understand better.

Thanks and regards. :)

User06201 11:10, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

PS. If first time newbie issues like first time misinformed "vandalism" are brought up, especially from their IPs, almost everyone on wiki would be "old vandals" because almost no one is expected to know wiki rules when they start editing on a whim via google one fine day. HAHAHAHAHA. BITE, AGF etc. Also was looking to merge those accounts and attribution etc. but never really got around to doing it. Though I think I had already mentioned it on one of the accounts user pages and also the edit histories and everything else is so very obvious! I had MYSELF mentioned that those are my accounts in my comments! Not to mention the archive! lol. Seriously, AGF in underlined bold for some people. LOLOL.

Help create a new WPBiography taskforce
A couple of weeks ago you helped vote for the creation of several workgroups on WPBiography. You also supported several that didn't make it. I am working to help establish one group that greatly needs to be created and includes most of the other groups you supported but weren't approved. I hate advertising like this, but I urge you to vote on the issue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography 24.126.199.129 01:17, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

WikiPedia Biography Olympic Sports Project
FYI. I have been getting lot of WikiPedia Biography Project articles in the discussion of articles that I have created over the past several weeks. Do you think it would be a good idea to create our own Biography Portal under the Olympic Sports Project Portal? I ask this because we will keep running into this problem as more and more of these Olympic athletes get biographies placed in them. You thoughts on this. Chris 19:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Reply to your comment
Hi Sue Anne, I have replied to your comment at Template talk:MedalTop. Thanks, mattbr30 12:05, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Ato Boldon
Re this edit: is it really helpful to create categories which will never have more than a couple entries? What is the value in creating these categories, when we only have one gold, one silver and a handful of bronze medalists? Guettarda 06:14, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


 * ? Guettarda 20:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


 * What is the value of a category with precisely one entry, which is unlikely to have more than one entry? A category that only has one entry because the other articles that belong there haven't yet been made might be ok, but a category (two, actually) that only apply to one person defeats the point of categorisation.  What makes Olympic medals different from all other Wikipedia categories?
 * You said "it's important to have all the countries represented" - that isn't the issue, the issue is that you have three separate categories for one country, and two of those categories apply to only one person. That doesn't make any sense.  Guettarda 02:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Recategorization
Please stop recategorizing to nonexistent categories, and go back and fix the ones you have made redlinks. Gene Nygaard 22:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Capitalization
Hello. I noticed you changed from upper case to lower case in Template:Olympic Champions Shooting RFP. Do you think we should change all the ISSF shooting events article titles accordingly? When I wrote them, I just copied the event names, cases and all, from article 3.3.1 of the ISSF General Regulations. I am however uncertain as to what Wikipedia policy says on the matter. Do you have a clue? It seems most other sport events like Long jump (which is of course more describing in nature) and Modern pentathlon are all lower-case, while a few are not, like Super Giant Slalom skiing. -- Jao 12:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

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I noticed your name on the page of the logo of the Mexican newspaper. I'd like to integrate this logo in the spanish and french web pages. To do so, I need to get the logo from the commons web site. Could you uploade it to the commons please, if possible. Thanks. Ajor 12:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Recategorization of Lascelles Brown
In this edit you put Lascelles Brown in the category Olympic silver medalists for Jamaica. While he competed for Jamaica at the 2002 Winter Olympics, he got the silver medal at the 2006 Winter Olympics while competing for Canada. Thanks, Andjam 08:04, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

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Hi Sue Anne, welcome back to the Olympic articles! I saw some of your recent AWB edits and have a request. I see that you have been removing wikilinks from headings (such as  ===Speed skating===  changed to  ===Speed skating===  for example). I support this change, but can you please add the link back again, as a call to   on the first line after the heading? I don't want to lose the wikilink altogether. Thanks!

PS: I should mention that your experimentation with Infobox CountryOlympics on Kenya at the 2000 Summer Olympics was an inspiration for me to create infoboxes for all 3000+ "Nation at the year Olympics" articles! Andrwsc 01:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

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I reverted your revert of my edit to Russia at the 2006 Winter Olympics. I have removed that people, because they are Polish and someone, probably by mistake, added them to Russia team long time ago. - Darwinek 09:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Short track
Hey, I noticed you were going through speed skaters articles updating their medal tables. Well, I asked Dgies to create an info box for speed skaters found at Template:Infobox Speed Skater that looks good with the medal tables. Also, I've been creating pages for each short track World Championships that can be found on Template:Worldshorttrack. So far, Apolo Anton Ohno had been updated with wiki-links to the World championships and with the infobox, and I'll work on some more pages.  on camera <sup style="color:#B9B9B9;">(t)  15:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

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