User talk:Suffice

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 * Suffice, award you a cheeseburger for your work on the cheeseburger article: [[Image:Cheeseburger.png|30px|cheeseburger]] -— User:Suffice 19:23, 1 September 2011 (UTC) on my talk page, or place  on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  -- Infrogmation 19:50, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * :) [[Image:Cheeseburger.png|20px]] Suffice 20:04, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hello
Hi Suffice. How can I help you? Rl 19:53, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Hello! [[Image:Cheeseburger.png|20px]] Suffice 20:04, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hello II
Ciao Suffice. Do you know Carlo Rubbia (CERN, Geneva) ? 19:55, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC) User:Stefanomione
 * I don't think so..? [[Image:Cheeseburger.png|20px]] Suffice 20:04, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Never mind. I'm curious, I touched one of your articles ? 20:08, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC) Stefanomione

What?
Why do you keep yelling at me for writing what I believe?

My adminship
Thank you for voting for me for adminship. I appreciate the confidence you showed in me. &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 08:45, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, fast food ambassador, for the cheeseburger on my adminship nomination. It has given me an appetite. &mdash; mark &#9998; 22:35, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Andy.jpg and Andy1.jpg
Hi. Thought you might like to know that these have been marked for deletion (see User_talk:Locket) TigerShark 17:41, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Damon Saito Mattinson
I have looked, and can find no evidence -- zip zero nada -- that this person exists. No Google hits (Web, News, Groups, or Images -- strange for a painter) and no listings on IMDB. Unless some evidence for the existence of "Damon Saito Mattinson" or "Saito Kagoshima" turns up, this article is bound for WP:VfD. --Calton | Talk 12:12, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I decided to bite the bullet and do it. See Votes for deletion/Damon Saito Mattinson. --Calton | Talk 12:41, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'm still waiting for you to prove the mere existence of this guy, let alone notability. You have yet to provide a single verifiable source, just a bunch of handwaving. There is nearly no information about Saito on the Internet? There's absolutely NONE, unbelievable for someone who "arguably impacted worldwide art style". No notices of gallery shows or auctions, no reviews, no obits, no biographies, no essays on his style, no examples of his work, no mention on IMDB, nothing. No trace of his name (or variations) through the on-line card catalogs of UC Berkeley, the British Library, or the Library of Congress. And, as I confirmed with a Japanese co-worker yesterdayw, neither his name or that of his alleged father make sense, since they're both made up of two surnames.

Provide an external source, please. Give me a book title (study or collection, preferably with an ISBN), magazine reference, gallery or museum displaying his work, art scholar who studies his work, title of a movie he appeared in, SOMETHING. --Calton | Talk 01:03, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Deadline
You have 16 hours to come up with something to substantiate the existence of Damon Saito Mattinson, or I will take it upon myself to ask an admin to delete the article not only from the article space, but also from your User Page. They give a lot of leeway to rejected articles being placed in user space, but I suspect that they'll be less forgiving of completely phony ones. --Calton | Talk 04:27, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * There is absolutely nothing around here that says I can't have an article on my bloody userpage

Yep -- subject to community standards and approval: ''As a tradition, Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit. However, pages in user space still do belong to the community...'' See also User_page.


 * Oh noes, Calton is going to ask an admin to delete my article that I worked hard on before some jackass came and accused my favourite painter of not existing". Oh, but then I realised that you CAN'T.

Of course I can. I'm free to ask the admins anything I like -- and they're free to say "no". I can even put your user page up for VfD, and let the other editors weigh in -- see User_page -- and, of course they can decide either way. The amount of time you spent creating it is completely immaterial, of course, if it's inappropriate.


 * Let the bloody VfD finish...

That's exactly the point of the deadline -- the Vfd will be over then, and the original article will be deleted. It's obvious that you saw the writing on the wall and copied it to your User Page to save it -- and I'm trying to head off your end-run around process.

All you had to do was provide the external sources you claimed existed -- ANY external sources. "Go to any library," you said. As I said, my searches of the catalogues of one university library and two national libraries under several variations of the names in the article turned up nil -- so I should look for what, exactly?

Anything verifiable will do. For example, where did you buy your painting? What galleries or museums have shown his work? Got a copy of any fliers or posters advertising them? What artists -- give me names -- have been influenced by him? What art historians -- give me names -- have written about him?

I'm 99.99% sure that this article is phony from top to bottom -- and that you know it -- but it would take very little to prove me wrong and get an apology from me.


 * ..., and try not to act so pissy to newer people. 

See, I don't believe you are new: you seem far too familiar with Wikipedia formatting and linking to make me believe you only started a couple of weeks ago.


 * In other news, I have emailed the owner of SKIR to ask if they could send me their sections of their webpage so I could prove Saito has existed...I'll be adding some images to the article.

Since you claim to own one of his paintings, that should be easy enough, but nevertheless, any images you can come up with proves nothing about whether "Damon Saito Mattinson" exists.

Your e-mailing "the owner of SKIR" is quite a coup -- since the page doesn't have any way to contact him or her:

Sorry, my email was terminated. When this site's move is successful, I'll update with my new one.

Instead of bolstering your case, you just keep digging yourself in deeper. My suspicion is that "the owner of SKIR" is, well, you.

Your move. --Calton | Talk 23:59, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)