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October 2017
Hello, I'm KylieTastic. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —the one you made with this edit to Al-Mubashshir ibn Fatik— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. KylieTastic (talk) 20:39, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Juana of Castile
As you appear to be relatively new to Wikipedia, I wanted to explain why I reverted your recent additions to Joanna of Castile. You have added material that is drawn from original letters and documents, primary sources. The use of primary sources is covered by the policy WP:PRIMARY, which basically indicates that articles should be composed from reliable secondary sources, that the reliance on primary sources to form the narrative represents Original Research, which is prohibited (policy WP:NOR). Wikipedia articles should not represent the scholarship of Wikipedia editors, but rather the editors should compile the scholarship of others. In order to add the details you think the articles should cover, you should find them in one of the biographies of Juana that have been published, not within the original letters and calendars of the time. Agricolae (talk) 17:51, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Agricolae(talk) you are, politely speaking, wrong on this. I revised an original contribution and made absolutely sure no material was primary and only used Bergenroth's Introduction to (his analysis of) the historical record exclusively - he being the uncontested expert on the real Joanna of Castile after his dedicated years personally unearthing archival records and ensuring the facts saw the light of day. As any historian worthy of the name cites his/her sources it is unfortunate that some earlier contributors did not put more reliance on historians and less on the fabulators who treat history like a kind of homeopathic potion. Perhaps there is a case for creating a disambiguation for the other mythical "Juana the Mad" spawner of Hollywood movies and bestselling books. So, if historical truth means anything and after you have verified that what I say is fact (NO original research, no primary stuff, etc etc) and there are no more misunderstandings here, you might revert the contribution, kindly?

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Speedy deletion nomination of Antonio Foscarini
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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Antonio Foscarini for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

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Ways to improve Alfred von Kremer
Hello, Sugrammr,

Thanks for creating Alfred von Kremer! I edit here too, under the username QueerEcofeminist and it's nice to meet you :-)

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Strict vs simplified transliteration of Arabic
Hi! WP:MOSAR may be dormant, but its recommendation makes sense: the strict transliteration used in scientific publications is useless to the average reader, since they can't differentiate for example, between sin and sad, and merely serves to clutter the article with diacritics. There is a place for the strict transliteration in the lede, alongside the original Arabic name, as well as for individual terms, but we should not overdo it. Constantine  ✍  19:47, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

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Francisco Pons y Boigues
Hi. When translating from other language versions of Wikipedia, you must provide copyright attribution in the edit summary accompanying your translation by providing an interlanguage link to the source of your translation. A model attribution edit summary:

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Antonio Foscarini
Hi, since you created the article I was wondering if for example this file could be suitable for the article. thank you for your time Lotje (talk) 08:43, 2 July 2020 (UTC)


 * thanks. I came across Foscarini's story incidentally to separate researching Venetian State Papers of the period, so I have no particular knowledge. I did a quick edit to insert this information, but please improve it. Was Valenza Gradenigo fictional or real?  Sugrammr (talk) 15:04, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Does this help you any further? Lotje (talk) 15:42, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Taking a closer look at the book in question, this could be Valentia (Valencia, Valenzia, Valenza?) Gradenigo (correct spelling?) one of the daughters of Antonio Priuli.

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Deletion of citations
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