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Katia Loritz
Hello, I just added a template to Katia Loritz requesting translation. I had not seen your note saying that translation is under way. Please feel free to remove the template once the article has been translated. -- Beloved Freak  21:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello BelovedFreak. Indeed my first steps. Well I was just in the middle of doing exactly that when you deleted the page. Where can I find it now to finish my translation ? And how can I remove that template ? Thanks for you help. --Suissewiki (talk) 21:50, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see it has been deleted (not by me). That is because we have a policy that articles can be "speedily" deleted if they are not in English and are also on another language Wikipedia. That was the case here, which I didn't realise. If I had, I could have explained that to you better, so sorry! The best thing to do is probably ask the administrator who deleted it (User:Jac16888) if they will provide you with a copy of the deleted article to work from. You could do so in your userspace (for example User:Suissewiki/Katia Loritz, and then it could be moved to Katia Loritz when it is ready. That way you wouldn't have to worry about it being deleted while you are working on it. Or perhaps it would be easier just to copy it again from the Spanish Wikipedia? Please let me know if you need any more help. -- Beloved Freak  21:59, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

OK Thanks. That makes all sense now. couldn't figure out why I had to deal with 2 different users complaining about my doings ;-) So basically I can just prepare the article locally and then re-create the online article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katia_Loritz) again ? Cause you're so nice to me, I will abuse for a second more with something not exactly clear to me. As far as I understood, the only way to transfer an article from es.wikipedia.org to en.wikipedia.org, is to create a new article. Is that right or is there a more easy way to duplicate article between the different Wikis from the different countries ? --Suissewiki (talk) 06:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, as far as I know that's the only way to move it. Don't worry about the warning below, it must have been a mistake by the bot that checks for copyright violations, as I can't see anything on that page that is the same as what you have written. If possible, what the article really needs now is references to some more reliable sources, especially secondary sources like newspaper articles, magazine articles, books etc. We need those to make sure the subject meets the notability guidelines, as well as the policy on biographies of living people. So, if you could add any sources like that, that would help make sure the article doesn't get deleted in the future. It doesn't matter if the sources are in Spanish or German or any other language. -- Beloved Freak  09:26, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again. Great, you have even started the filmography. OK, so I guess the MoS is responsible for removing the date and year links. Please tell me why Actress remains with a capital A, whereas artist got corrected to a small a. And a Swiss-German actress with capital S and G is surely no proper english. Same thing for Spanish movie career. They're all Adjectives and should be small, no ? Last question for today. How did this (manual of style cleanup) description got added to the revision title. I can understand that you get the (starting filmography) description, as you have added that category to the article, but when does MoS appear ? Hey please don't get my grammar questions wrong. I'm far away from being good in it, but those capital letters just look strange to me. I guess I will need to read that MoS first ;-) Anyway, I'm really grateful. It's fantastic to have someone like you, guiding you through the first steps and rules. Are you part of a special Wiki unit helping others or are you just doing that because you came accross my article by watching new articles. Thanks a million and take good care. --Suissewiki (talk) 07:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, we don't (or very rarely) link dates here (MOS:UNLINKDATES). Also, see WP:DATESNO for why I removed the th from 4th November
 * Improper nouns in infobox get small letters, but (I think I'm right here) the first item on the line gets a capital letter, so as it starts with Actress, I left that with a capital. Not a big deal though.
 * In English, demonyms get a cpaital letter. See demonym - it doesn't explain the capitalisation, but you'll see lots of examples. See also Capitalization, where it says "In English, the names of days of the week, months and languages are capitalized, as are demonyms like Englishman, Arab. In other languages, practice varies." - it's just a variation between languages.
 * I'm not sure what you mean about the revision description - are you used to them appearing automatically? The ones I used on this article, I added myself, so as I was making small changes that were mostly to do with the MoS, that's what I added. Is that what you mean?
 * The manual of style is very long; you're not expected to know it all! You'll do ok if you're used to other language wikis, there will just be a few odd things that are different, like these things mentioned here. I'm not part of any special unit! I just came across the article when watching recent changes, and I saw that it's the kind of article that sholdn't be deleted, so just wanted to help. As I said, it could really do with references to reliable, secondary sources, for verifiability as well as to show notability, but we can see she's had an extensive career and been in some important films, so it shouldn't have problems with deletion now. I'm also interersted in films and film biographies, so that's probably why I noticed the article too. Anyway, you're welcome, just ask if you need any more help. :) -- Beloved Freak  09:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Is there any way to send normal emails to each other? --Suissewiki (talk) 14:09, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, you can email me by going to my talkpage and clicking on "email this user" in the toolbox on the left of the page. If it's anything specifically about an article, it's best to keep it on the article talkpage (eg. Talk:Katia Loritz), but if you just want general help and would prefer to do so over email, that's fine. -- Beloved Freak  18:00, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Smashing. All your explanation makes sense.

So the MoS description I mean. Check the history: (i have shorten the list)


 * ... Belovedfreak (talk | contribs) (categories, interwiki link)
 * ... Belovedfreak (talk | contribs) (starting filmography)
 * ... Belovedfreak (talk | contribs) (manual of style cleanup) <== THIS ONE <==
 * ... CorenSearchBot (talk | contribs) (Tagging possible copyvio ...)

So does this mean Wikipedia realizes automatically when you do changes according to the MoS and then it puts that into (brackets) as a description of the revision or is it just what you put into the Edit Summary ? Or something else ?

Another thing I would like to know. The movie Red Cross Girls doesn't exist, so I would like to put the original spanish title, Las chicas de la Cruz Roja and link it to the spanish article http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_chicas_de_la_Cruz_Roja. How would I do that without using the absolut URL ? Greets, --Suissewiki (talk) 23:31, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Those are just things I put in the edit summary myself. To link to the Spanish version, you could put Las chicas de la Cruz Roja which would show up as Las chicas de la Cruz Roja. -- Beloved Freak  10:11, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Belovedfreak. Strange, but I put it exactly as you wrote: Las chicas de la Cruz Roja. I mean, there is not much I can do wrong. And I can see it works perfectly fine here on the talk page. But have a look at the article. There it is not working somehow. The text is not even appearing. Any idea, why is that ? Thanks in advance. --Suissewiki (talk) 12:50, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * My fault, I wasn't clear: you have to put a : before the es, like this: Las chicas de la Cruz Roja, otherwise it just places the interwiki link in the toolbox at the left. The error didn't show here because it's a user talkpage. Anyway, I've fixed it. -- Beloved Freak  16:37, 20 April 2011 (UTC)