User talk:SummerPhD/Archive 13

Terrorism insurance
hey, my article on terrorism insurance has been deleted and if you could please clarify as to why because im kind of new here and i'm still trying to reference it if that is the problem.thanks sudiksha gulati (Sudiksha.gulati (talk) 16:20, 12 October 2011 (UTC))
 * Your additions to the article were reverted as copyright violations. Please see Wikipedia talk:India Education Program/Courses/Fall 2011/Indian Banking and Financial Systems Year 2 Group A for details. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 16:28, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Cassidy
Hey, Why did you edit the article I updated on the rapper Cassidy, He is 29 years old — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.55.176.182 (talk • contribs) 05:27, 14 October 2011
 * You need to cite a reliable source for that information. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 11:58, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Help please
hey there, i heard you deleted my page about a gang & i was wondering can you help me improve it cuz as you see kind of i am a wiki rookie & i dunno much about it i am not askin for infomation i am just wondering if you could give me some specific info about makeing it alot more yer know ... obiding by tha rulez & not getting deleted by admin's & wikipedians with potentials like yourself for example, if you get a chance to look at this message send one back on my talk with info about improvement, hear is my practice page ( User:KieranKiwiNinja/North Liverpool Jetz ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by KieranKiwiNinja (talk • contribs) 20:37, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The article in question was deleted as an unremarkable organization (a "gang" formed this month of half a dozen or so young teens, completely lacking in sources). The "practice page" mentioned above may need to be deleted as well, as there are some fairly serious WP:BLP issues. I'll discuss this on your talk page and give you a chance to source it first. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 23:19, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Why are you deleting everything i edit?
Seems you're stalking me. Why? --Ericg33 (talk) 23:15, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Please read your talk page. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 23:20, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Question: Sympathy or Empathy for an inferior race would fall under what category?
Racism, Racialism or something else?

Thank you

--OxAO (talk) 21:16, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia! I am glad to see you are interested in discussing a topic. However, as a general rule, talk pages such as Talk:Racialism are for discussion related to improving the article, not general discussion about the topic. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. Thank you. SummerPhD (talk) 23:29, 23 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I have to disagree with you this isn't a discussion topic. I am not bringing up a discussion I am bring up a missing topic.  May I revert this question back please and why would you delete it without talking with me or at least answering the simple question?


 * --OxAO (talk) 02:05, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Talk pages are for discussion related to improving the article, not general discussion about the topic. Unless you have a reliable source asking the question you are posing, you are discussing the topic not improving the article. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 02:46, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * are you suggesting I need a source that proves people have sympathy for what they think are inferior or different races?  This is basic logic.  There can only be three types of racism hate(racists), neutral(racialism) and Sympathy(unknown) for what is believed to be an inferior or different race.  All I am asking is WHAT IS IT CALLED and were do i look it up?  This isn't a debate question it is a simple logic question and i would like an answer.  How can I give you a source if I don't know what it is called?  The closest word I can think of to it would be "pompous" but that doesn't describe why he is self-important.


 * --OxAO (talk) 08:57, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Your question has nothing to do with improving the article. Article talk pages are for discussing improvements to the article. If you would like to know what some people would call "sympathy for what they think are inferior or different races", Wikipedia is not the place for that. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 14:56, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * If there is a word for it then adding that word to racism would improve the article and so far neither you nor I know a word for it. Yet you do not allow me to ask if anyone else does.  Why?


 * --OxAO (talk) 00:26, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You are speculating that there is a term for a very specific view which may or may not involve racism and/or racialism. It is likely there is no specific term. There might be phrases used to describe such a view, likely involving the word "racism" (as the belief assumes an "inferior race") and/or "racial" and/or "paternalistic"/"paternalism" and/or "sympathetic" and/or "naïve" etc. Depending on who is talking and the particular situation, it might be "naïve paternalistic racism" or "racial paternalism" or "naïvely sympathetic racism" or any number of other combinations. Unless you have a reliable source discussing this in some way, you are dreaming up a situation to either chat about or somehow inject into the article. This is not what talk pages are for. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 00:51, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Obviously neither one of us know if there is a word for it and you are obstructing my inquiry. So I looked on google and found this supreme court case: "Is Sympathy Towards Minorities Race-neutral?" This case the justices needed more evidence for discrimination charges but it does show this question is being ask and should be taken up by Wikipidia as a race discrimination question.


 * http://academic.udayton.edu/race/03justice/preempt01.htm


 * --OxAO (talk) 01:18, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You found one case discussing sympathy towards minorities. You did not find reliable sources seeking a term for "sympathy for inferior races". This is the difference between an article on people who like apples and an article seeking a term for people who like apples dipped in steak sauce. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 01:27, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The court case was about racial discrimination thus it wasn't just about sympathy towards minorities.
 * You are only obstructing my inquiry. May I post my question please?


 * --OxAO (talk) 07:40, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Your inquiry has nothing to do with improving the article. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 11:41, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * You are wrong it is that simple and no one person should be making decisions here.


 * --OxAO (talk) 18:35, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Based on your theory that there might be a term for this, what improvement would you expect to see in the article? "There may or may not be a term for sympathy or empathy for an inferior race which may or may not be racism or racialism." - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 18:45, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I came here looking for a word for it. You know that is what an encyclopedia is for? I don’t know if there is a word for it and I still don’t. But the concept of people that feel so superior that they treat others like a pet should at least be expressed in any encyclopedia in my opinion.  Maybe using that court case and any other reliant information that has been expressed over the years.  But I still do not see why you feel the need to keep this bottled up between you and me?


 * --OxAO (talk) 01:13, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You came here looking for a word for it? Well, as far as Wikipedia knows, there isn't one. If you find a reliable source for one, feel free to add it. Otherwise, this is not what talk pages are for. As much as you are using talk pages (and contributing virtually nothing to articles), you really should familiarize yourself with our talk page guidelines. Thanks. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 01:29, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Are you trying to help me find the word? Elitist is a discriminatory term not exactly what I am looking for.  SummerPhD said, "Well, as far as Wikipedia knows, there isn't one."  Since this hole concept is being left out of Wikipidia and no one can bring it forward without your permission.  For one person to make that statement makes you an elitist one that is above everyone else even know you are not an administrator. You are very similar to the word I am looking for except you are doing it in a discriminatory way not as a master would treat his pet which means you are close but but 180 deg off the final mark. It was a good try and thanks for trying to help me find the word (if that is what you were trying to do?)


 * --OxAO (talk) 01:52, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Your unsubstantiated theory that there might be a term does not point to an improvement in the article. Talk pages are for discussing improvements to the article. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 02:04, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Why do you insist that I must have a term to write about a concept? I came here looking for a term I don't know if there is a term I frankly don't care.  There has been movies, plays, TV series and a hole lot of real life done around this concept yet it is completely absent from Wikipida and you will not let me help this site. An extreme example would be Star Trek Who Mourns for Adonais? where a god wants to care for his people.  You are not being productive in any way.  You should just move aside and let others express their opinion on this.  Let me do this.   If I was going to write this I would need help. I believe that is what the talk pages are for, to get this expressed properly.
 * --OxAO (talk) 02:37, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Article talk pages are for discussing improvements to the articles. Additions to articles require reliable sources. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 03:15, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * what is your point? I said I need help writing this if I choose to do it.  Do you expect me to pull a rabbit out of the hat or something and find others to help me do it? The logical place to find them would be the talk pages.


 * --OxAO (talk) 08:41, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There is no indication that reliable sources discuss this. There is nothing to add to the article(s). - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 11:45, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

B Maej Edit
Dear SummerPHD,

Thank you for your recent feedback. I undid the change you made for a few reasons. Since I created the page, saved it from deletion (see afd deletion), and have more details than most on this particular artist I make it a point to regularly correct erroneous information placed out there. People who arbitrarily edit articles (introducing typos, and wrong birth dates, record labels that don't exist TM3 etc. (not you)) - need to find something more productive to do. My edits are sound. Additionally if he wanted his govt name out there it would be there - hence the removal.

BTW thanks for showing me how to use the edit summary and user talk feature. No offense intended just seems like there are too many cooks in this broth. Hope I signed this right.

Hec24000 (talk) 05:10, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * As this deals with the content of the article, I have responded on the article's talk page. Thanks. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 14:43, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Please remove your comments from the tooth fairy talk page.
Please remove this from the talkpage. Penyulap  talk 12:12, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No thanks. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 13:33, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

ANI discussion
There is an ANI discussion about you here Penyulap   talk 12:49, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 13:34, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Please see the continuation in WP:ANI. Lady  of  Shalott  15:43, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Some Kind of Recognition Award Type Thing
'''For General Awesomeness in Dealing with Vandals, Huns and other Wiki-Invaders



Can't even remember what link brought me to your door, but your talk page was the best article I'd read in ages... ;-) So you needed a, or something, but there weren't any that really fitted your Wiki Awesomeness (Huh? No article?)

? Nah, maybe you'd be on a diet, or had a. ,, ? What a quandry...

Then I thought, well everyone likes a, but seeing the , realised that, actually, what you needed most was a for all the  you have to put up with on your talk page (in the most civil manner I have ever encountered in the entire ), hence the biggest I could find, to reflect the excellent work you do around here.

Or maybe a would have been more appropriate...

Thanks for all the lessons! Much respect. Haruth (talk) 21:13, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks... NOOOOOO! Look out for the kitten! Actually, if the kitten buys it, it's the good doctor's fault. You were innocently smooshing things with your... whatever that is when Drmies threw a kitten in front of it. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 03:02, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Fear not, it's the "Kitten Safe 2000" - auto-stops whenever it detects cute... sure glad I didn't go with the shoe now! Haruth (talk) 18:55, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Drmies had no way of knowing that, unless you are also part of the Lit-type admin cabal... hmmm... - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 19:36, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thank you for not showing your teeth in these tooth-fairy matters. Your patience is appreciated.

Drmies (talk) 02:46, 27 October 2011 (UTC) 


 * Thanks, but I'm a little disturbed. It looks like Haruth's "Major cleaner-upper" thing is about to smoosh the poor little kitten.


 * Actually, the truth is I'm more than a little disturbed. My accountant seems to have too much time on her hands and thinks I should "reposition" my portfolio based on the up-coming presidential primaries on this side of the pond. A few of the more conservative candidates are making some outlandish and regressive tax proposals (flat taxes and such) that would hurt a working stiff like me. I've tried to tell her we don't have enough money to worry too much about this. My second point was that we didn't know what the future would bring. In my email, I started to link to WP:CRYSTAL to drive my point home. My accountant, incidentally, was in the kitchen cleaning up from dinner while I was typing. (I married my accountant.) See? More than a little disturbed. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 02:58, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, tell your accountant to give it up. That whole portfolio thing, the moment you change something you lose money on the very thing you changed. Or, don't change it, and lose money also. Tell your accountant to butter a thousand slices of bread and toss them up in the air (accountants know tax law, not Murphy's Law.) Yes, we are not rich enough to have to worry about it. As for the flat tax plans--every single one of them is so obviously moronic, even more so than the current tax code, that even Congress wouldn't be dumb enough to fall for it. It's rhetoric, that's all it is. Remember Bush and the privatization of Social Security? Happy days, and stroke your kitten for me. I'll go and beat that straw man some more. PS I made pumpkin pies, cornbread, chili, and Jello today. Someone should send me citizenship, at least of the CSA. Drmies (talk) 03:47, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey! Watch it with the Onanified* cats and scarecrows. Just because I disagreed with you is no reason to work blue on my talk page. I actually agreed with the Colonel and disagreed with Ten# in AfDs this month, so I figured you were next. (*I invented a word, just for this post. If Shakespeare can do it, so can I.)
 * I don't have the authority to let you into the CSA. However, if you make some green bean casserole, I can make you an honorary cracker. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 04:03, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I once had a student named Onaneisha. I figure that means "masturbatrix". And no, I won't make green bean casserole, and I'm already a cracker, haha. Oh, I was pronounced an honorary woman, around the time of my dissertation defense, and one of the ladies of the committee drew a penis on my bald head with a lipstick. How do you like them apples? BTW, I was unaware, of course, that I was entendering doubly. Drmies (talk) 14:17, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

173.19.32.22
Just a heads up, I've cross-posted your AIV report on to WP:ANI. – Luna Santin (talk) 05:18, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm a little concerned about the serious kitten safety issues on this page. Simply alarming. – Luna Santin (talk) 05:20, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't tempt me to push that button on your user page. I see your block log hasn't been added to in a while; if you want to hang with the cool kids, you're going to have to be a little badder. Mroww! Drmies (talk) 14:19, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I've uncovered the legendary Lit-type admin's cabal. Do I get a prize? Drmies has admitted to being one of those lit people. LadyofShalott's user page, which minors regularly read, actually links to articles about literature. Now I see Drmies butting in on Luna Santin's comments. I'm too afraid to click on the link, but I assume "Luna Santin" is some sort of reference to a 17th century English ballad... -  Sum mer PhD  (talk) 14:37, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I rather think we have a wolf (admin) in sheep's clothing (baby lover and lullaby singer) here...Luna Santin, you're not fooling everyone: we all know you are an easy-listening superstar. Drmies (talk) 18:06, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Easy-listening superstar : Lit-type admin :: Kitten : Major cleaner-upper thing. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 18:16, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like a sectio aurea to me! BTW, I found you an interesting redlink. Go for it. Drmies (talk) 18:36, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Let's see: Latin and a passive-aggressive dig at my distaste for archiving. Mama always said, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." Hmm... that's a tough one. Well, Drmies, while no one likes a smart ass, at least you aren't a dumb ass. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 19:40, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * My wife likes my ass, she says, or at least the look of it. Thanks for the compliment--all in moderation, I reckon. Have a nice day, Summer. Drmies (talk) 20:18, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

ZOEgirl articles
Hello,

Just a few comments regarding the ZOEgirl articles:
 * Dismissed (ZOEgirl song): Like You Get Me, it is a notable song, but no information for North American airplay is available. This is because Sparrow does not publish it, CHRI's site wasn't archived during the single's airplay, and Billboard/R&R sites are a pain.  But it's a Top 10 hit, at least in the UK, and a wonderful music video was made for the song.  Maybe it was just released too late, however, leading to a lower chart score, at least in the UK.
 * Even If (ZOEgirl): The USA and Canada approve of this song, and it charted well in both countries. ZOEgirl talked about this song on a Tommy2.net interview.  Charts position will be up shortly.
 * ZOEgirl discography: the UK chart from Cross Rhythms is used in Britt Nicole articles, and maybe more. They have a well-established FM network in the country, and their charts and reviews are used as references in multiple Christian articles.  Ditto for CHRI-FM, which serves Canada's capital, Ottawa.  The latter is the fourth largest metropolitan area in Canada as well as the smaller Cornwall and Pembroke cities.  It is the most reliable Christian chart to use as a reference for Canada, because CHRI has been around for over a decade, and their chart archives are easily accessible.  As you can see, Christian musical taste buds are much different in both Commonwealth countries, usually to ZOEgirl's disadvantage.  i disagree with classifying either of these charts as WP:BADCHARTS, as they are reputable, reliable, and have been around for a long time.  :(  But it's important to note that the songs chart differently worldwide, because Americans prefer ZOEgirl.

That's all for now. Let me know if there are any other issues! :) --LABcrabs (talk) 00:46, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * "Dismissed" - If it was a "Top 10 hit", we need a cite showing that. A "wonderful music video" is a moot point. Without citing chart information, it is not notable.
 * "Even If" - I have no idea what you mean by two countries "approve" of the song, it is likely a moot point. If it "charted well", this needs to be cited in the article to demonstrate notability.
 * It does not matter if the bad charts are used elsewhere. They are not notable charts and should not be included in Wikipedia articles. As these issues discuss the content of the respective articles, this discussion should take place on the respective articles' talk pages. Thanks. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 01:39, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Again, what is your basis for considering these to be bad charts? None of the charts that i used are listed as bad charts.  So i'm confused.  What other Christian chart do you want me to use?  --LABcrabs (talk) 02:04, 30 October 2011 (UTC)  And i say this because there isn't really any corporation in Canada or the UK that does stuff like Neilson or Billboard. --LABcrabs (talk) 02:07, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Please see the individual article talk pages. Thanks. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 02:08, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Elton John's Levon
I understand your removing of an item you felt was breaking one of Wikipedia's rules, but I must respectfully disagree with your interpretation of my edit to the article on the song Levon by Sir Elton John. The term 'original research' as it is used here means adding items which are not sourced and do not have a provenance from some other provable place. In the case of an audio sample, it is provably part of the recording, and in order to use it on Wikipedia, one is required to cut the audio down to under 30 seconds in order for the piece to constitute 'fair use' under copyright law and not be an infringing use of the sound recording. Since it is an example of the artist's work as performed in that article, is not 'original research' as that term is used on Wikipedia. I am restoring the audio sample as it is my opinion that it is legitimately appropriate to the article in question and does not constitute 'original research' as is normally defined here. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) (talk) 03:18, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Your edit stated, "As is heard in the audio sample below, the first few opening seconds of Levon are very similar to one of Sir Elton's other songs, Tiny Dancer." Without a source, this is clearly original research. If you'd prefer, think of it at WP:POV or simply unsourced. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 03:48, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Inline external links to IMDB actor articles
I reverted an edit of yours and gave a reason at Talk:Kickin' It. I'd appreciate any comments you choose to make there. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:14, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Hedge fund introduction
Hello, SummerPhD. Earlier this year you offered some thoughtful input on the Hedge fund discussion page, and I would like to invite you back to consider a current problem that I have described on the discussion page. The introduction is currently inaccurate and out-of-date and I am seeking consensus to restore an earlier version, that I helped to write and place. I have asked other editors involved then and recently to look at it as well, and I am hoping to find long-term consensus, so your input would be appreciated too. Thank you. --Bryant Park Fifth (talk) 14:01, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ecotarian
I have removed the prod tag you placed on Ecotarian, as the article was discussed at AfD, which resulted in a consensus to merge/redirect. This indicates that deletion is not uncontroversial and therefore fails the principal criteria for prod. Do not interpret this as my endorsement for keeping this article; I have no prejudice against opening another AfD and will most likely not !vote in such a discussion should you or anyone else choose to open one. Cheers! &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 14:16, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

stop harassing me
I saw your reversion of my edits on Cruelty-free and find them harassing. It's bad enough that even after I continually rework the text on pb&j, and have good cites you keep reverting me, but now you're harassing me. Please stop. Surf Dog (talk) 15:54, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * My edits are well within bounds and do not constitute harassment.
 * That one organization briefly pushed one food item as "cruelty-free" is clearly trivial. If the article were to list every food item anyone has ever called "cruelty-free", the article would grow into an extensive, useless list of every vegan food imaginable, and various organic/"cage-free"/"pastured"/"free range"/"cruelty free"/... meat, fish, dairy, egg, etc. item imaginable.
 * Your additions to PB&J are still problematic. I'll put them up for discussion shortly. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 16:18, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've now tagged your additions appropriately. I'll give you a chance to take them down yourself (someone else might do it first) before addressing this myself. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 16:47, 5 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I think the whole situation is ludicrous. The sentences have been improved from what they originally were, they cites are reputable. I think you are blowing this way out of proportion, and being somewhat of a bully. SummerPhD, you are driving an edit war. Surf Dog, have you seen Wikiquette assistance? Philly jawn (talk) 01:43, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You're an idiot for calling me a sock puppet.Surf Dog (talk) 03:44, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You are "both" so sweet. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 04:15, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * i met someone today at the DC meetup who knows you IRL. They agree with my assessment of you. Surf Dog (talk) 04:51, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Aww, I love you two too. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 05:34, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Tavis Smiley
Thanks! You reverted just when I did. I have a feeling this wandering IP's efforts will result in page protection again. Oh well... --‖ Ebyabe talk - Opposites Attract  ‖ 20:08, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Already requested. This same vandal lead to the protection at Anderson Cooper. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 20:10, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That's how I found out they were doing the same thing here. Which makes me wonder if there might be other articles where the same thing has been done, and we don't know about it. At least this article has now been protected for a while. Cheers! --‖ Ebyabe talk - Border Town  ‖ 20:50, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Easy enough. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 20:57, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

3RR Warning
You are now at 3RR on Peanut butter and jelly sandwich. This serves as your warning. Philly jawn (talk) 13:49, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * So, it addition to not understanding WP:V, you don't understand WP:3R? I added a synthesis tag to two sources that were never in this article before. The editor who added them has not edited for 4 years. If that is a revert, let alone a third revert in 24 hours, I'm the pope. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 14:11, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Philly
Thanks for the barnstar! I am pleased to help out with the Philly articles WhisperToMe (talk) 06:39, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

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Punta Brava
Haha, only now I see that one of my edit summaries needs to be read without pause halfway: "Summer, still no nightclub--how about a naked guy with a cock and bull story who survived a hanging?" A naked guy with a cock, that's probably redundant. And what would a bull story be? like a bull market? Happy days, Drmies (talk) 23:39, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * PS We have a pool now. Bring your significant other, or anyone else, sometime next summer. There will be beers and complaints about grading. Drmies (talk) 23:39, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Gee, thanks! But no love for my diligence protecting the world from unsourced info about upcoming Chipmunks films? - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 00:21, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Can't help you there. That's too popular for me. Still, I have faith in you, oh Summer, pisser-off of all young people who love things trivial. Drmies (talk) 00:41, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, that's not fair. I'm not convinced the Colonel is all that young. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 03:57, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

inre Articles for deletion/Maisie Williams
Good catch. Not only fails ENT but her coverage makes this a BLP1E.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 03:46, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Aw, shucks. You flatter me... go on... tell me more... - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 03:51, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Fishing for compliments? While User:Alessandra Napolitano makes some decent guideline-supported points, I think observance of the applicable policy overides any consideration of guideline for this one... she is a minor child, after all.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:18, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, and a poorly covered one at that.... Now what was it you were saying about my eyes? - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 00:57, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * OK lovers, you both have gorgeous eyes, and they ooze charm and demand devotion. Now, if you're finished, perhaps you care to ogle an important matter, at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_LGBT_studies? After all, y'all are sticklers for the MOS... Drmies (talk) 04:54, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, Doc, butt out. It's not bad enough my wife is sitting here wondering what I'm typing about? . . . OK, so I'll take a look (though I usually don't go there). - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 05:32, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

AFD
Hey there! I closed your AfD as a Redirect, as I felt that would be the most appropriate action. In retrospect, I'd just like to know if this seems like an action you'd support, or if you're looking for a straight delete. Cheers, m.o.p  23:09, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirects are cheep (free even!) and a redirect takes any readers that do happen by to an article that makes sense. A well-reasoned call, IMO. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 02:15, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks. As the nominator, you're welcome to weigh in (at your leisure, of course) at the DRV another editor opened up about the closure. Cheers, m.o.p  05:02, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Age of consent page move discussion
Not sure you're still watching this article, but you may want to lend your thoughts to this discussion: Talk:Age of consent. And keep an eye on it if not already. 89.149.195.167 (talk) 00:38, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

December 2011
Best laugh I have had on Wikipedia in 6 or 7 years. Reverting an edit because you don't like the edit summary and issuing a warning on top of that. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:05, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad I could help. Care to explain how removing text is "rewording"? - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 01:40, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

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I've declined your block request for 70.44.149.170; while I agree that some of the talk page comments (e.g. Andrea Mitchell) are going too far in the chat direction, many of them are statements specifically about the content of the articles and how they should be improved.

By the way, I have a simple request — when you report at AIV, would you consider putting your signature on the same line as your report? Since you put it on a separate line, I thought that someone had reported you without explaining why, and it took me a bit of looking through your contributions to realise that you were the reporter. Nyttend (talk) 04:48, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Carlon Jeffery
I knew you would find the article and have it speedy deleted it, No problem. I'm submitting it for deletion review. Feel to take part in the discussion (Deletion review/Log/2012 January 1) but I doubt you won't.  Quasy Boy  23:18, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the head's up! - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 23:20, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * OK then.  Quasy Boy  23:22, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Reliable sources for personal relationships
those aren't going to be covered by the Wall St. Journal. Photos should qualify.

Are all my edits being forwarded to you?

--Ericg33 (talk) 07:08, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Unless discussed in independent reliable sources, personal relationships should not be in an article at all. Photos would show the two people together, but would not show they are a couple, nor would they make race an issue. Your apparent need to point out every relationship where the people are of different races (oh! the horror!) does not "qualify" for inclusion in Wikipedia unless that particular aspect is -- for some reason -- given significant coverage in independent reliable sources. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 20:31, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

A note and a question
Hello! I noticed some time ago that you had removed several references citing publications by Int'l Business Publishers, describing it as Wiki reprints. There's a somewhat related discussion at WP:RSN about plagiarism of Wiki content by publishers, and now User:Utcursch/plagiarism from Wikipedia. I'm not sure if that's something you'd enjoy contributing to, but I gather you have experience identifying such sources.

And now a question: in this edit, you describe a 2002 IBP publication as a reprint of Wiki content, however I found no comparable content in versions of Bhutan or the like through 2002. Was there another Wiki article this publication was a reprint of? Cheers! JFHJr (㊟) 07:17, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, I did not independently check each instance to see if it was indeed a copy from Wikipedia. Three separate cases had been found where this definitively was the case (i.e., the book was a verbatim copy of a specific version of a Wikipedia article). I checked two more and found similar problems (actually, I found very close matches, but did not go back through the history to find the specific version). In any event, a publisher who reprints Wikipedia articles is not a reliable source, of course, as it is doubtful (to say the least!) that some of their books are blatant copies of Wikipedia articles while others are professionally written and carefully fact-checked. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 21:46, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

You're not well liked by anyone
And using the words 'African American' is now racism? Photos are valid to indicate a personal relationship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericg33 (talk • contribs) 10:19, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Please watch the personal attacks.
 * The phrase "African American" is not racist. Going out of your way, repeatedly, to point out that various couples are mixed race, however, is either entirely pointless or racist.
 * Your interpretation of a photo is not a reliable source for relationships in a BLP article. You have been reverted several time on this issues by several editors. If you continue down this path, you will be blocked from editing. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 19:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * (Ericg33 is now enjoying a 6 months' forced vacation. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 21:51, 23 January 2012 (UTC))

Courtesy Notify
Just a quick note to say that your name has been mentioned here. Nothing for you to worry about (I'm the target of any hostilities there); but your name did pop up during discussion, and I try to avoid any "talking behind ones back" issues. Regards, Xenophrenic (talk) 00:42, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. This seems to be building up... - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 01:14, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Response
I have responded to your form comment on my talk page. Piratejosh85 (talk) 00:44, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

List of defunct retailers in the United States
Thanks for editing with clarifications & better rationales in edit summaries. --Lexein (talk) 21:48, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reading them! - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 22:38, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

MPAA
Thanks for your concern, (remainder redacted)209.74.45.21 (talk) 20:11, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Your concerns do not belong on the article's talk page or my talk page. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 01:43, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Why youuu...?!?!?!
Hey, why did you reverted my edits to Money for Nothing? 77.85.6.48 (talk) 20:46, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The edit summary explains it. Your addition was unsourced. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 23:52, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't need sources for something which is evident. Look up "Fisherman's bastion" on Google and watch the video. 77.85.6.48 (talk) 13:57, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Whether "evident" or not, you do need sources for something which is trivial. We could lard up each and every movie article with lists of specific locations used. We choose not to. That is what IMDb is for. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 15:51, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hi. Thanks for signing for me. I don't like to edit anonymously, and I guess I just forgot to click the pen icon a few times. --Uncle Ed (talk) 05:42, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

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Deletion of Talk Page content
This is your only warning; if you remove or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.1.114.216 (talk • contribs) 11:54, 23 February 2012‎
 * This was posted by an IP who really, really wants to use talk pages to explain to people that, gosh, slavery in the United States wasn't a bad thing done to people. Turns out it was some kind of employment program mixed with a free vacation. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 01:39, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Deletion review for Slavery
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Slavery. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

You deleted multiple new sections of the articles Slavery, Atlantic Slave Trade and Slavery in the United States on the related Talk Pages. You provided insufficient reason for your deletion actions. Therefor i had to report your actions. You should have requested a deletion before you commence it by yourself.WP:Delete — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.1.114.216 (talk • contribs) 11:54, 23 February 2012‎
 * (None of these articles are up for deletion review, of course, as none of them have been nominated for deletion (that I'm aware of). This is just more of the same IP who posted "Deletion of Talk Page content" above.)
 * Yes, I'm one of two editors who deleted the IP's historical revision/lesson on the talk pages of those articles. If you'd like to dispute my removal of your violations of our talk page guidelines, deletion review is not the place for it. I'd suggest you take it to Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. (My apologies to everyone at AN/I...) - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 01:52, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Redirects
Hi. I agree with the small print thing; I wasn't sure there was enough material there even to bother with a merge; I might dig it up from article history later. But the daylight savings time overlap is a real concern for computer professionals. Can you help me get sources and/or help with merging it? --Uncle Ed (talk) 03:11, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there wasn't enough any material for an article, just your WP:OR and decision that a particular ad was deceptive.
 * There's nothing sourced, so there's nothing to merge. It's not that hard: Don't start articles if you don't have sources. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 03:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Before you lecture me on Wikipedia policies, you might want to review Verifiability:
 * You may remove any material lacking an inline citation to a reliable source. Whether and how quickly removal should happen depends on the material and the overall state of the article; consider adding a citation needed tag as an interim step. Editors might object if you remove material without giving them time to provide references. It has always been good practice to try to find and cite supporting sources yourself.
 * I wasn't announcing a new theory in astronomy or nuclear physics. How about a little WP:TEAMWORK here? --Uncle Ed (talk) 03:46, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Before you go asking for teamwork, you might want to be sure there's something to work on. You created an "article" (to the extent that three sentences of WP:OR is an article) and barely a half hour later agreed it should be "merged" (even adding the merge tag yourself). When it was duly redirected (as I had no intention of adding your WP:OR to another article, I was simply removing "material lacking...a reliable source"), you cried foul and restored the WP:OR. It has since been redirected by another editor. No, I am not in the business of running around after you looking for sources for your WP:OR. You've obviously been around long enough to find your own sources. That you seem unwilling to bother is a problem, but not my problem. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 03:56, 26 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Since you have challenged the material, the burden is on me. But next time you consider removing material for which you don't see a source, try to remember the policy, "Editors might object if you remove material without giving them time to provide references."


 * I usually use the fact tag, and then come back in a few days. A lot of people leave fact tags in for years. --Uncle Ed (talk) 12:49, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, you "may object". However, when you say to go ahead and do something, objecting when it is done seems rather pointless. You created a little turdlet of an article with no sources or sources of any kind. It's gone now. If you happen to dig up sources for your idea that times written in abbreviated form seem to overlap, feel free to add it to an article somewhere. If you find substantial coverage in independent reliable sources, you might have an article you can create. Catch that? You could create a real, live article. Not four sentences you immediately agree shouldn't be an article. Not a quote farm for someone else to clean up. Not a random, pointless redirect that you shore up by adding the byzantine wording to other articles. A real article. You can even count it as one. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 02:07, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I catch your drift. As Simon Bishop said to Melvin Udall, "It's not a subtle point you're making." --Uncle Ed (talk) 00:54, 28 February 2012 (UTC)