User talk:Sumoeagle179/Archive 2

Rudget!
Dear Sumoeagle179, my sincere thanks for your support in my second request for adminship, which ended with 113 supports, 11 opposes, and 4 neutral. I would especially like to thank my admin coach and nominator, Rlevse and Ryan Postlethwaite who in addition to Ioeth all inspired me to run for a second candidacy. I would also like to make a special mention to Phoenix-wiki, Dihyrdogen Monoxide and OhanaUnited who all offered to do co-nominations, but I unfortunately had to decline. I had all these funny ideas that it would fail again, and I was prepared for the worst, but at least it showed that the community really does have something other places don't. Who would have though Gmail would have been so effective? 32 emails in one week! (Even if it does classify some as junk :P) I'm glad that I've been appointed after a nail biting and some might call, decision changing RFA, but if you ever need anything, just get in touch. The very best of luck for 2008 and beyond, Rudget . 16:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration
Thanks partly to your prodding at ArbCom, we've gone ahead and started something for Isr-Pales modeled on the Sri Lanka project you'd mentioned. Would you be willing to join us and sign on? Here the shortcut, WP:IPCOLL. Even if only as an observer and occasional advisor, it would be a vote of confidence or moral support. Also, we'd welcome you suggestions on how to advance something like the good cop/bad cop approach you mentioned. Thanks again for your encouragement, be well, HG | Talk 16:27, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Hope it goes well. Sumoeagle179 (talk) 14:02, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Rlevse
Hey, I join the Scout project because I have a son in scouting. Unfortunately I didn't get to work with Rlevse much for whatever reason, but he welcomed me in. I really don't know much about what was going on that caused him to quit, but maybe you could remind him that there are some folks out here new like me that would like the opportunity to help out with some guidance from him. Thanks.-- T HE F OUNDERS I NTENT  TALK 14:36, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll keep talking to him. You can email him to from his talk page. I think he's answering the emails he's getting. Sumoeagle179 (talk) 14:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Returning
After much thought and deliberation I have decided to return. Many wikians contacted me by various means and I truly appreciate the support from all of them. Man, did I need that wiki break! I have learned from it and will use the experience to improve. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 19:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA thank-spam
, I wish to tender my sincere thanks for your support in my successful request for adminship, which ended with 37 supports, 2 opposes, and 2 neutral. The results of the RfA are extremely bittersweet because of the recent departure of my nominator, Rudget. Hopefully I can live up to his and your expectations. I would especially like to thank Epbr123 and TomStar81 for mentioning that they were preparing to offer me a nomination. The past week has been one of the most stressful weeks in my life, and I appreciate your vote of confidence in me. If you ever need anything, just get in touch. -MBK004 21:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

My Rfa
My effort to regain adminship was unsuccessful, and I'll do what I can to ensure your opinion of my suitability for adminship improves. Thank you for taking some time out of your day to voice your opinion.--MONGO 19:42, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks
I am not one for sending round pretty pictures, but after my recent RfA, which passed 68/1/7, I am now relaxed and this is to thank you for your support. I will take on board all the comments made and look forward to wielding the mop with alacrity. Or two lacrities. --Rodhullandemu  (Talk) 21:11, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

New information on Imam al-Mahdi Scouts
Would you chime in at the talkpage? A user is accusing us of not enough POV, we've worked very hard to keep it neutral. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 20:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks
 .: RFA thanks :.

Thank you

 * Sure. You'll be a fine admin. Sumoeagle179 (talk) 20:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

WQA alert
WP:WQA. ScienceApologist (talk) 18:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

The Corrs
Hi, you've objected to a FA nomination of The Corrs. However, the explanation you provided did not make sense to me. Could you please elaborate it on this page so I may address the problem. Thanks. σмgнgσмg (talk) 08:08, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for clarifying what you meant in regards to your comments raised in the Corrs' FAC. I've addressed your problems and would like you to take a look. Cheers. σмgнgσмg (talk)  09:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello, I've dealt with the problems you raised again, in which I've left the comments on the FAC page. Cheers. σмgнgσмg (talk)  04:00, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Main Page Nomination for Manzanar
With the 39th Annual Manzanar Pilgrimage coming up on April 26, I have nominated Manzanar to be on Wikipedia's main page on that date. Please add your support for that at Today's featured article requests -- Gmatsuda (talk) 22:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Roanoke, Virginia
Why did you remove the reference from the Roanoke, Virginia article? Your comment "rm sp" wasn't clear, since WP:SP doesn't apply. Thanks. –BozoTheScary (talk) 15:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * SP, here, = space. I did not remove a ref, I removed a space. check the diffSumoeagle179 (talk) 15:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Glad I asked first.  I totally misread the diff earlier.  Cheers. –BozoTheScary (talk) 21:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

ye olde rfa thank spam
hey Sumo, I just wanted to thank you for participating in my recent RFA. to show just how much I learn from and admit mistakes, you might want to check out my in-depth RFA analysis (comments are welcome). i've also left you some templated thank spam below. cheers, xenocidic (talk) 00:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC) templated rfa thank-spam 

I would like to thank the community for placing their trust in me during my recent request for adminship, which passed 72 13 2. Rest assured, I have read each comment thoroughly and will be addressing the various concerns raised as I step cautiously into my new role as janitor. In particular, I would like to thank Balloonman for putting so much time into reviewing my contributions and writing such a thoughtful nomination statement after knowing me for only a brief period of time (and for convincing me that I was ready to take up the mop now, rather than go through admin coaching).
 * Thank you for your support

To my fellow admins - please let me know right away if I ever take any mis-steps with my new tools. Should I make a mistake, and you reverse the action, I will not consider it to be wheel-warring (but please tell me so I can understand what I did wrong).

To everyone - please feel free to slap me around a bit if I ever lose sight of the core philosophy of Wikipedia as I understand it - the advancement of knowledge through the processes of mutual understanding and respect. As always, feel free to drop by my talk page if I can be of any assistance. =)

Sincerely,

~xenocidic, 01:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

SarekOfVulcan RFA
Thank you for !voting on my RfA. If you supported, I'll make sure your confidence is not misplaced; if you opposed, I'll take your criticism into account and try to adjust my behavior accordingly.

See you around the wiki!--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 01:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks
My RfA  Thank you for your participation in my recent RfA, which closed successfully. I felt the process was a thorough review of my contributions and my demeanor, and I was very gratified to see how many editors took the time to really see what I'm about and how I can be of help to the project. As a result, some editors changed their views during the discussion, and most expressed specific, detailed points to indicate their opinion (whether it was, , or ).

A number of editors were concerned about my level of experience. I was purposeful in not waiting until a particular benchmark occurred before requesting adminship, because I feel - as many do - that adminship is not a reward and that each case is individual. It is true that I am not the most experienced editor around here, but I appreciate that people dug into my contributions enough to reach the conclusion that I seem to have a clue. Also, the best thing about this particular concern is that experience is something an editor - or administrator - can always get more of, and I'll continue doing that, just as I've been doing. (If I seem a little slow at it, feel free to slap me.)

I am a strong believer in the concept that this project is all about the content, and I'm looking forward to contributing wherever I can. Please let me know if I can be of any help. In the meantime, I'm off to school...

Thanks again!

Changing other editors' comments
Please don't 'refactor' the comments of other editors, except where those comments represent an egregious violation of policy.

Speaking as an administrator, in general we have thick enough skins to take a bit of generic 'adminz are teh evils' abuse. ScienceApologist's comments aren't directed at specific, named individuals. While his remarks aren't particularly kind, we generally allow upset editors the freedom to cool off (within reason) on their own userspace.

In general, refactoring such comments is likely to further upset the editor involved, and isn't helpful. If you require further guidance in this area, consider taking your concerns to WP:WQA or WP:AN/I before redacting or refactoring anyone else's writing. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 23:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Then take it to WP:AE, or raise the issue on SA's talk page. 'Refactoring' his comments isn't likely to be productive.  It's just poking him with a stick. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 01:42, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hiya, for what it's worth, I agree with Ten on this. SA's comments are definitely uncivil, but they're not specifically targeted, and they're relatively out of the way since they're just in his userspace.  If he said the same thing in article space, it would be a different matter, but as it is, someone has to make a point of going to his userspace to see the comments.  And since he's retired, that will be less and less likely.  If he becomes active again, I could see asking him to refactor the comments, especially because of his ArbCom restrictions, but if he's gone and stays gone, it's not going to be an issue, as blocking him wouldn't have any "preventative" effect. Filing an appeal would just stir things up, so my recommendation is to just ignore it.  If it's SA's last word, fine, let him have it, and then we can all get back to the encyclopedia.  :) --Elonka 01:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Some thoughts
I understand why you have the break notice above. I don't consider it a particularly wise move on your part. Your edit earlier today was wise and well considered; your explanation of that to TenOfAllTrades was a bit less optimal. You could have explained SA's history better or taken a more patient tone yourself. And I can say that as one of the admins he is attacking, even if not by name - I'm highly confident that I'm one of the admins that he had in mind when he posted it. (See this or this). Having a thick skin is one of the characteristics the community wants admins to have. Attacking admins is a favorite strategy of trolls and vandals and is also a natural reaction for sanctioned good faith editors - a good admin had best be capable of ignoring the attack on themselves and dealing solely with the consequences for the rest of the community.

I think I understand why you reacted as you did. The meatball:defend each other principle (links are in multiple arbcomm cases if you need one) made your action a reasonable one. But that attack by SA isn't worth raising a big stink over, and in the long run won't do SA any good.

Your action drew you to my attention earlier today, before you were reverted. I was pleasantly surprised to see an editor who had been around so long and contributing so much and without significant problems. Far too often, admins get to see only problematic editors. Please keep doing the good work upon your return. GRBerry 02:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

DRV of an IfD
I'm advising all participants in the that a subsequent DRV. Your participation is welcome. Dreadstar †  01:43, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

RFA thank-you
Thank-you for your support of me at my recent RFA, which was successful. I have appreciated everyone's comments and encouragement there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

thankspam
That's only fair. I didn't mean to disrupt, but apparently I did, so I won't protest too much. I'm not really a drama whore, but I can see how it would come across that way sometimes. Anyway, thanks for weighing in, and hope to catch you around on WP  Mr. IP  《 Defender of Open Editing 》 14:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks!
glad to see you made it! Sumoeagle179 (talk) 09:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou
Just a little note to say thankyou for participating in my successful RFA candidacy, which passed with 96 supports, 0 opposes, and 1 neutral. I am pleasantly taken aback by the amount of support for me to contribute in an administrative role and look forward to demonstrating that such faith is well placed. Regards, WilliamH (talk) 09:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

My RfB
Thank you for the questions, although answering Q6 makes me feel like a show-off! I'll get back to the aspect about which ones I nominated when I can. Re Q7 - did you miss my answer to Q4, or am I being a bit thick? --Dweller (talk) 11:39, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look. Sumoeagle179 (talk) 22:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Was talking about prior UAA and CHU experience. Sumoeagle179 (talk) 22:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Your message on my talk page
You left a message on my talk page that was guilty of the same thing MBisanz was needlessly harassing TheKohser for. Just wanted to make sure you were aware of that. --Duk 16:05, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Strikeouts
It was an attempt to remove a roadblock for the RFC, I realise that it might be out of line and if it is I'll accept the consequences. If you feel it necessary I've no objections to you taking it to AN/I, or if you feel strongly about it to revert. I was hoping the RFC would work, because if it doesn't, this issue will end up winding its way to Arbcom and then everyone loses. Justin talk 10:36, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * See my comment on that RFC talkpage. Keep in mind earlier on AN he said he'd only listen to arbcom, ie, not an RFC. It's odd he uses incivility to demand others stop being incivil. Sumoeagle179 (talk) 10:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I went back and looked at his RFA, it was considered a no-brainer at the time, partly because he was considered so civil. My comment that taking this to Arbcomm is a lose-lose situation is still appropriate.  Anyway as I said, if you feel I'm out of order I've no objections to you taking it to AN/I.  Justin talk 10:58, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I have no desire to take to ANI. We can discuss it. In fact, I've pretty much said what I have to say. Sumoeagle179 (talk) 11:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks
--SmashvilleBONK! 23:56, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi Sumoeagle179. I would like to thank you for your support in my RfA and the confidence expressed thereby. It is very much appreciated. :) The RfA was closed as successful with 73 supports, 3 opposes and 4 neutral. I would especially like to thank WBOSITG for nominating me. Best wishes and thanks again, —αἰτίας •'discussion'• 23:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)