User talk:SunDawn/Archives/2022/May

Meda Mládková
Maiden name was Sokolová. 107.122.161.21 (talk) 04:53, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello! Thanks for the information. I will remove my warning on your talk page. Good day! SunDawn  talk  05:15, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted
Hi SunDawn. Your account has been added to the " " user group. Please check back at WP:PERM in case your user right is time limited or probationary. This user group allows you to review new pages through the Curation system and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or nominate them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is vital to maintaining the integrity of the encyclopedia. If you have not already done so, you must read the tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the deletion policy. If you need any help or want to discuss the process, you are welcome to use the new page reviewer talk page. In addition, please remember: The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you also may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In cases of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, or long-term inactivity, the right may be withdrawn at administrator discretion. — TNT (talk • she/her) 13:48, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
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appaling
i heold the opineon of your view of politics is appaling end wrong!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rikghsi (talk • contribs) 10:55, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Have a good day! SunDawn talk  05:20, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Colin M
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg David.Monniaux • Fribbler • Grue • Kpjas • West.andrew.g



CheckUser changes
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Oversighter changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, a change has been made to the administrators inactivity policy. Under the new policy, if an administrator has not made at least 100 edits over a period of 5 years they may be desysopped for inactivity.
 * Following a discussion on the bureaucrat's noticeboard, a change has been made to the bureaucrats inactivity policy.

Technical news
 * The ability to undelete the associated talk page when undeleting a page has been added. This was the 11th wish of the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * A public status system for WMF wikis has been created. It is located at https://www.wikimediastatus.net/ and is hosted separately to WMF wikis so in the case of an outage it will remain viewable.

Arbitration
 * Remedy 2 of the St Christopher case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to place a ban on single-purpose accounts who were disruptively editing on the article St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine or related pages from those pages.

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you for the barnstar! SunDawn  talk  15:51, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Myrmidon Club
Hi, I was the one who just made the change to the Myrmidon Club page. Was wondering what can be done regarding the citation since there isn’t really anything citable for the information; instead it’s just an addition to the page which I was hoping to make as the current Hon. Sec of the club. There are no published member lists or records of voting but the information is very much true. Therealwack (talk) 17:10, 16 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello! Hopefully you have a good day today! I understand your concerns but everything in Wikipedia should be able to be verified, and if the material is not cited and unable to verified, it can't be placed on the article. If you have any more questions, please do ask! SunDawn  talk  04:59, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Van Zandt County Courthouse
Hello! I see that you have added a "Sources exist" tag to the Van Zandt County Courthouse page. Could you please list some of the sources you've found out so I can use them? Zerogonal (talk) 21:27, 17 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello! I placed the tag because I thought that more credible source should exist for a place in the U.S. National Register of Historic Places. I will remove the tag to prevent confusion. Thank you!  &maltese; SunDawn &ohm;     (contact)   14:47, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

65.129.69.134
Hello! I just received the following message from you, "Hello, I'm SunDawn. I noticed that in this edit to Emma Smith, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you." I did not make a mistake in my edits, I merely forgot to input a reason in the Edit Summary box. Please restore my changes, as the text and sources were updated to come directly from our Church's database. Thanks! 65.129.69.134 (talk) 08:03, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, in Emma Smith you removed tons of content (12,155 bytes) without adequate explanation. Your reasoning that "it came directly from Church's database" is not reasonable enough for the deletion, as you place no source at all, and calling established material as questionable without any reasoning is not allowed. Please read on WP:V to read more about the need of establish verifiability. If you want to remove materials, please provide more explanation, as merely stating it is "incorrect" without sourcing is not adhering to the guidelines. I will also revert your changes to the previous stable reason, as your deletion is not constructive. If you have any questions please do ask. Thanks.  &maltese; SunDawn &ohm;     (contact)   11:50, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Take a good look at the first thing Wikipedia says.
The article "oil sands in unnavigable. Do you understand that?

Show some respect to me. 49.183.10.84 (talk) 11:26, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello could you explain what you meant by unnavigable? You removed 28,780 bytes of content and references without clear explanation why. If you want to trim the content, please do not remove the references. For the time being, I reverted the article to its latest stable version before your work. Not to worry, it is very easy to return to your version but please do not remove too many content and references without clear explanation why. Looking at the article, it is pretty navigable, though it is fairly long. And can you please explain why you state  and ?   &maltese; SunDawn &ohm;     (contact)   11:43, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Look at yourself.

You didn't even take time to review my edit.

You can't understand what "unnavigable" means, even though it's at the top of the page.

You had 10 years to update the information, you haven't even taken your proposal to the talk page.

Undo your revert, or I'll make a formal complaint.

Does that make it clear? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.183.10.84 (talk) 12:01, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello! Threatening will get you nowhere. Per the guideline WP:BRD, you made a bold move to remove all things you deem "too Canadian centric", while I reverted your edit as I disagreed, and then we arrive at the phase where we can discuss the problem. As I think you engage in good faith, please also do the same so we can discuss civilly. Doing formal complaint will go nowhere as both of us are acting in good faith. The maintenance tag on the article talks about the article being too long, which does not mean that it is unnavigable. On the other hand, I do think that your trimming is good, though I don't agree with all of your removals. I propose to revert to your version, and then I worked in edits I think should be in, is it good for you?  &maltese; SunDawn &ohm;     (contact)   12:15, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The proper procedure with contested changes is to revert to the stable version and to discuss changes form that state. I have restored to the original version, prior to the IP's massive changes. Meters (talk) 20:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I am more agreeable to that! Thank you. The IP has gain “some consensus” to delete Canadian-centric material on the talk page, and I do not want to discourage the IP, that is why I offer to go to his version and build on that. But I think it is better to go to stable and discuss from there.  &maltese; SunDawn &ohm;     (contact)   00:13, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Paul Han
Read the 4 sources I used in the article. My edit to Paul Han was not vandalism. Why did you revert it? 124.217.188.160 (talk) 13:14, 22 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Please tell me which policy I violated. 124.217.188.160 (talk) 13:17, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello! You are removing a redirect to Paul Han Xirang without explanation why, to create an article about someone who is not notable. Multiple other editors such as, , and  have disagreed with your removal of redirect. If you want to create the page for this graffiti artist, please create a new page instead of changing a redirect page. Thank you!   &maltese; SunDawn &ohm;     (contact)   13:23, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It is notable (2 separate incidents). 124.217.188.160 (talk) 13:28, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * If he is notable, please create a new article on him, and do not change redirects. If you have question on how to create a new article, please ask and I will help answer you. Hopefully you have a great day!  &maltese; SunDawn &ohm;     (contact)   13:31, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * originally tagged the article for questionable notability. See wp:Articles for creation on how to create a new article. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 20:26, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Kunkle info
The info I provided is direct family history. I am a direct descendant of this man. We don't need to rely on Google. And yes the town has been platted 1Texancowboy (talk) 00:56, 23 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello hopefully you had a nice day today, and hopefully you will have a nice evening. Concerning the article, unfortunately such sources (such as direct family history stories) can't be included on the article, as it can't be verified. While the story is indeed interesting, but it can't be included on the article as it can't satisfy the requirement of the Wikipedia. If you have any questions, please do ask! Have a nice evening!   &maltese; SunDawn &maltese;     (contact)   00:59, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

East Rail Line, 101 and 104
I added that referring to two bus routes which will almost certainly be cut in frequency and eventually die due to this MTR extension. Why did you remove it? 218.188.210.224 (talk) 01:06, 23 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello ! Hopefully you have a cheerful day. Do you have sources for your material that the bus routes will die off? Thanks.  &maltese; SunDawn &maltese;     (contact)   01:07, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently Special:ListUsers/patroller New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing on their talk page.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.

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Possible cross-wiki abuse
Hello SunDawn,

I would like to ask if you can help with a bit of a problem, as I am not particularly good with Indonesian (bahasa Indonesia). There is a troublesome sockpuppeteer, Jellywings19 who has been active here for about a year now, and I suspect that they are also messing up id.wiki as well. But without as many users there, their activities are going largely unnoticed. I'm thinking about going to the stewards for a global lock, but I would like to make sure that they are indeed doing the same things there as they do here (I've tried checking myself, but I just don't think it will work).

What they do is this: They add unsourced and sometimes totally false destinations and airline fleet details to articles about Indonesian aviation. Any edits to non-Indonesian airports or airlines are usually to add Soekarno-Hatta Airport or Sultan Hasanuddin Airport to the destinations. Can you check the id.wiki contribs of: Yrochaortiz, Dictatrade, Junesbillyy and Unitedports

Other socks were active on id.wiki, but not as much, or it was too long ago to bother with. Basically, if they are also adding u sourced and potentially false information on id.wiki too, then let me know, and I'll ask for a global lock, and for all future socks to be glocked as well. Sorry about all this trouble. Mako001 (C) (T)  🇺🇦 11:34, 22 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello! I will check the Indonesian wikipedia contributions for the three editors you mentioned. Thank you!  &maltese; SunDawn &ohm;     (contact)   12:46, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello ! I might need more time to do more in-depth analysis, so I started with Yrochaortiz. Editor is exhibiting the habit of adding unsourced edit such as 1, 2. Editor is also in good faith removing unsourced stuff such as this one. Unsourced/unexplained change is also made here. I don't know if the user is related to Jellywings19, but from an en-wiki point of view, this user is quite problematic due to multiple times making unsourced change.  &maltese; SunDawn &maltese;     (contact)   05:04, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * All good, it isn't too urgent, thanks for the update. Mako001 (C) (T)  🇺🇦 07:30, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello there!
I added details, information, and edits to this article on Las Vegas history page, but you reverted my edit. I did rephrasing on sentences and I added details with reliable sources. There is nothing wrong with my edit. Can you explain this revert? Thank you. --76.20.110.116 (talk) 23:46, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello! The reasoning is that the content you made is WP:PUFF and it is not neutral per WP:N. The main problem is the sourcing, as you take it from the Las Vegas site itself, it is not neutral. This is different if you are sourcing it from other site which is independent from Las Vegas. My suggestion is that if you want to put similar sounding material, please source it from other site that are more neutral, and use more neutral sounding prose. Thank you and have a nice day!  &maltese; SunDawn &maltese;     (contact)   23:52, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * When adding sources, why should this be neutral according to Wikipedia puffery and manual of style, while creating encyclopedia? 76.20.110.116 (talk) 04:28, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The need for neutrality is central for Wikipedia, as seen in WP:5P2 and its guidelines in WP:N. While the Las Vegas website can be used as a neutral source for other information, such as number of population, name of officials, etc. it can't be used as a neutral source to determine whether Las Vegas is the best city or not. Thank you.  &maltese; SunDawn &maltese;     (contact)   04:47, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

edit to Missing dollar riddle
Hello, I'm new to this whole editing thing. I was reading through the Missing dollar riddle page when I found an incorrect quote for the Abbott and Costello bit. I did a first edit including a Youtube video, but that was reverted due to have a Youtube link. I went back and updated the quote part without a citation, but then you reverted it. The Abbott and Costello bit is on Youtube if you want to verify, but they are speaking about cents but it is quoted incorrectly as dollars in the Missing dollar riddle page. Please let me know how I can have my edit remain in place. Thanks, Arya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aryahmmr (talk • contribs) 06:24, 26 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello ! hopefully you are in great health today! The reason for the revert is that in every material you need a source, and YouTube video is not a reliable source. Do you have other sources? Thank you!  &maltese; SunDawn &maltese;     (contact)   16:19, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Oxford University Conservative Association
Hi SunDawn, can you please tell me how much explaining is needed to avoid edits being reverted for unexplained content removal ? Cheers, 192.76.8.90 (talk) 10:34, 28 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, hopefully you have a great day ! I have removed the warning from your talk page, but I do think that the misconduct is not WP:UNDUE. Yes, the source is less reliable than mainstream media sources, but I do think that it is still reliable enough. What do you think? Have a good day!  &maltese; SunDawn &maltese;     (contact)   10:38, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I think that the discussion is best had on the talk page and have hence added a new section on the topic there. Note that these are only allegations and the BLP policy applies to user talk pages too, so I recommend rewording the above. Cheers, 192.76.8.90 (talk) 10:50, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Roger McMurrin
There was no reason for you to issue a warning about the content I have added to Roger McMurrin’s wiki. You may not like the content, but sadly that does not make it false. The reality is what I have added is completely accurate and therefore deserves to be published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheTruth0416 (talk • contribs)
 * Hello ! Hopefully you have a great day! The edits you made to Roger McMurrin is unsourced, so I have to revert that. If you have sources that support your material, please add it to the article! Thank you and have a great day!  &maltese; SunDawn &maltese;     (contact)   12:54, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Risto Darlev
Hello i just made a Wikipedia account so I understand if you don't know who I am. In any case I am the person that changed the date of birth of Risto Darlev to 1952, i also stated my reasons for why as you saw. However because I am new to this I do not know how to prove that I am indeed his grandson. If you could please help me in this endeavour it would be most appreciated.

Thanks Kristijan Risto Darlev Mental Moron (talk) 16:51, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello ! Hopefully you have a good day today! Per Wikipedia guidelines, all materials have to be sourced from reliable source, and even though you are his grandson, as it is impossible to verify, you can't be used as a source. Please see about WP:V and WP:OR. The best way is to provide sources that are reliable per WP:RS. Reliable sources include news, books, journals, and others. If you have any more questions, please do ask!  &maltese; SunDawn &maltese;     (contact)   17:05, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

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Edit about Gupta's empire
I went to Allahabad to visit that inscription about Gupta's empire. It is written there that according to this inscription Gupta's belongs to kshatriya clans. There were some experts present there who explained me about this topic and the inscription. Prabhatranjan1 (talk) 08:12, 31 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello hopefully you have a nice day! Unfortunately the kind of reference, that you heard from someone, is not a reference that is accepted per Wikipedia policy, as all sources have to be able to be verified per WP:V. If you have any other questions, please ask me! Have a nice day!   &maltese; SunDawn &maltese;     (contact)   09:15, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@sundown Prabhatranjan1 (talk) 08:13, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@SunDawn Prabhatranjan1 (talk) 08:14, 31 May 2022 (UTC)