User talk:SunKider

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My Proposed changes to Seer Stone (LDS)
Please provide your feedback.
 * Hi SunKider, I don't think we've talked directly, but I've been watching your discussion with John Foxe and your work on the Seer stone (Latter Day Saints) article. If you don't mind, I'd like to give you a few pointers. You mentioned that you were citing Quinn, but didn't know how to use citations. I assume that you are speaking of Quinn's book: Early Mormonism and the Magic World View. If that is the case, a possible citation might look like:


 * However, if you plan on citing Quinn a lot, you can use a Harvard citation template like this:


 * It's hard to ever have too many citations, but depending on the article, I've grown accustomed to dropping a citation every sentence or two. You can find more information at WP:CITE.


 * For a little feedback on your proposed revisions below, one thing that jumps out at me is a slight tendency toward making controversial statements. Example: "Joseph Smith used his favorite brown seer stone to translate the Book of Mormon from the Golden Plates." Problems with this sentence include: it says Joseph translated the book (as opposed to fabricating it) and implies that the Golden Plates existed. Now I'm not saying the sentence is false, just that it is attributed the wrong way. It shouldn't be Wikipedia saying that he translated it from Gold Plates. It should be attributed to whoever made that claim. (See WP:Attribution and WP:SAID) Examples for an alternative might include: "People close to Smith said that he used his favorite brown seer stone to translate most of the Book of Mormon." or "Historian Michael D. Quinn says Smith used a seer stone for translating most of the Book of Mormon." or "Smith said he translated the Book of Mormon from Golden Plates. Witnesses said that he used a chocolate colored seer stone placed in the bottom of a hat for most of the translation process.


 * Does that make sense?


 * One other note: I've found it's sometimes easier to make large changes to articles incrementally. I'd recommend taking it one section at a time. Please let me know if I can be any help. I'm fairly busy with school, but I'd be glad to help out with any other technical problems like formatting citations and such.


 * Good luck, and thanks for your hard work.
 * ~Adjwilley (talk) 16:46, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Adjwilley, your feedback has been very helpfulSunKider (talk) 23:37, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Adjwilley suggested "making large changes incrementally," and I'd suggest the same strategy.--John Foxe (talk) 22:20, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I see how incremental changes are a good way to progress, however in this case the content was such a confusing mess that it requires a big step to create an environment where the issues can be clarified. My heavens, a statement like they "may or may not have intended" is just silly. We must break the content into chunks as I have done so we can clarify the issues. - SunKider (talk) 05:53, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've made a large edit to the article, modifying heavily your additions and removing what I saw as redundant pieces. I've left an explanation on the talk page. Please let me know if you have any concerns with my changes there. Thanks. ~Adjwilley (talk) 01:46, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Editing Pages
FYI - there is no need to propose new changes on a talk page first. Just make the change and then go on. If the change is controversial then someone will revert. At that time discuss the issue on the talk page Here is some useful information on primary and secondary sources WP:RS and WP:PRIMARY.

It is also ok to try to accommodate an objection noted in the edit comments by making a subsequent change on the article page in conjunction with comments on the talk. Many issues get resolved by edit, revert with comment, subsequent edit addressing concern expressed in revert without long discussions. Good luck! -- Trödel 16:59, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

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Composites Information
I plan to make some edits to various pages relating to composites materials. I have experience working in the industry (Hercules aerospace) and I have experience building my own composite (fiberglass) airplane.

Please leave comments here if you disagree or have comments about my edits.

Sandbox
Sandbox 0 (Fiberglass (composites))

Contributing to Wikipedia
If you're intent on contributing to Wikipedia you need to use lower case on titles. You're Tending To Capitalise Everything, and this isn't the house style. For house styles read WP:MOS, and please try to follow it.GliderMaven (talk) 22:54, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the feedback. I was not aware of the heading style. I come from a technical background where headings are capitalized.174.52.108.70 (talk) 04:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Also, when you contribute to an article, you have to be careful to cover the ACTUAL topic it covers, not the name at the top of the article. For example, in composite material you basically deleted coverage of every type of matrix except polymers. This article needs to cover ALL composites, including reinforced concrete, wattle and daub- everything! If anything it covers reinforced polymers much too much already. We have a separate, specific, reasonably good article on polymer based composites, so that's inappropriate for the main composite article. OK? The article is not about the slang use of the term 'composite' to mean reinforced polymers, that's only one part of it.GliderMaven (talk) 22:54, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I see you made several very good edits to the Composite structures article. I'm impressed. I was just trying to improve the most obvious flaws. SunKider (talk) 05:13, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * RE: the name at the top of the article. If the name at the top of the article does not match the ACTUAL topic, then there is a problem with the article. SunKider (talk) 05:13, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * RE: Deleting coverage. You must have misread some edits. I expanded the discussion. I made deliberate edits in the intro to open up the discussion to other types of composites. SunKider (talk) 05:13, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * BTW, You removed a sentence about about steel cables in concrete and pre-tensioning. You replaced this with a comment about steel rebar. The sentence you removed is about to a technique they use in concrete bridge sections. Instead of just placing steel in the concrete, they place a steel cable in the mixture and pre-stress the cable (prior to cement cure) to improve the strength of the concrete section. SunKider (talk) 05:13, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

You can tell what the article really covers by reading the first few sentences, they're always supposed to specify it.GliderMaven (talk) 22:54, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Seer stone concern
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