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Current classification
Can you check what this is File:TestudoFiskiSmit.jpg. Thanks. Shyamal (talk) 03:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Testudo fiski is today known as Psammobates tentorius verroxii, the northern tent tortoise. As there is no article on this subspecies I've added information and the image to the Tent tortoise article here. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 12:24, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok. (verreauxii would be the spelling perhaps). Thanks. Shyamal (talk) 16:37, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's verroxii now. John Edward Gray had the same idea as you and in 1870 he called it Peltastee verreauxii but later in the year switched back to Peltastes verroxii. The numerous previous names are found here page 291-292. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 17:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 9 May 2011
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Larry Guth
(Concerning the edit page when you add a new message: Wow what a welcome, I have no idea how you did that but it is amazing!) Just thought I would let you know that your prod on the article linked above disappeared but the article has not changed in any way. Thenub314 (talk) 17:47, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, the message is User_talk:SunCreator/Editnotice thanks to User:SlimVirgin. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 18:10, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

request talk page archiving setup
For "Flourine". Por favor. TCO (talk) 16:14, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 17:18, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, man! TCO (talk) 17:50, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 May 2011
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Talkback
Meph talk 11:24, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 6 June 2011
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Scorpion mud turtle

 * Scorpion mud turtle, Kinosternon scorpioides
 * http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinosternon_scorpioides etc. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 10:54, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

PROD DJ Valium
I did a google search and he may be notable, so I'm recommending you to take it to afd. --Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 15:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, checking Google, not found any reliable sources yet. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 15:52, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well the thing is he has released 5 albums and his music videos get over 200 000 views which doesn't make it a clear PROD. --Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 15:56, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see that. It's fine to deprod it. As a Blp we require a reliable source and discogs and myspace don't cut it. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 16:01, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Walter Civitareale
Don't worry about it - thanks for the heads-up. He's pretty good about fixing things up before I'm even awake of a morning. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:09, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 June 2011
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stopping archiving
Is there a way to tag a section so it does not get archived? Like my talk stalker section (or just any arbitray one if I chose?)TCO (talk) 16:01, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Archives based on last date in section. Add some future dates and it won't archive unttil they are exceeded. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 16:09, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Listen to Myrrha please
Please listen and support/oppose avec comments! 

TCO (talk) 02:13, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Can't play .mid files. Player does not support the audio or video format "MIDI". Regards, SunCreator (talk) 12:07, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Well crap. Maybe I should get someone to convert it to ogg?TCO (talk) 15:51, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * ogg would certainly work. Surprised that .mid wouldn't given there is tonnes of file types my music player will play. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 19:11, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


 * It is probably your fault.TCO (talk) 19:19, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * YES!! Regards, SunCreator (talk) 19:22, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Got to listen to this now. In my view the playing/quality of recording is fine but not something that I would consider featured level. PS not really listened to other featured sounds so maybe I have to high of expectation. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 05:47, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool, please go and say that and vote. It is fine to make a vote and then evaluate your standards over time.  You will learn faster if forced to make a call (I have found this with job interviews, when hiring).TCO (talk) 05:51, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Re:Proposed deletion of Mau Honi
'Fraid I'm completely sourceless when it comes to this personage. I thought the stub worth creating, though, because his leadership of Fretilin is adverted here. A quick web search, and then one each of Google Books and Scholar, turns up precisely nothing. Unless you have anything, therefore, delete away. Best, Crusoe (talk) 11:25, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Let it run it's course, for the days grace it is allowed. You never know maybe someone could turn up a source. Some people(thinking especially of User:DGG) are amazing at finding obscure sources. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 05:54, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Sunburn (Fuel song)
Hi. I just read WP:NSONGS and I think this song reaches the notabillity threshold. It reads "Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts ... are probably notable." Note that national charts are not a requirement. In any case, it might have been on Austrialian charts (http://australian-charts.com/search.asp?cat=s&search=fuel), but I can't tell for sure. Fuel discography says it was but it might be mistaken. I have added a reference for its position on the Billboard Alternative Songs chart. –CWenger ( ^ •  @ ) 19:29, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well at this point it's not notable. Are you saying the chart referenced is 'significant'? Whether it is or not, a song must meet basic notability guidelines which it does not. In addition "a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article", so more sources required. The community views on songs is very tough, hence the notability requirement criteria required of a song exceeds that of any other subjects to my knowledge. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 19:39, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I would think all Billboard charts are significant, but I don't edit a lot in this area so I'm not sure. I was looking for this article and instead found Sunburn (Muse song), which was why I created it. I know this is WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, but the Fuel single before and after it have stub articles. –CWenger ( ^ •  @ ) 19:57, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Jean Ginibre page
Dear SunCreator,

please have a look now.

Thanks, Sasha (talk) 20:25, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you Sasha for adding those two references. You seem new to showing the references; I tidied things up a little, you may like to see the edit I made and perhaps adjust the page info to something more meaningful. Best Regards, SunCreator (talk) 23:40, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * thanks for the help! I have just added the page info. Sasha (talk) 00:47, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Hal McGee deletion
I was out of town and not aware that you had marked the page for deletion. Hal McGee is notable/noteworthy in the cassette culture subculture. While he is not a major recording artist, the experimental scene of which he is a part is otherwise represented on wikipedia by other artists (Cock E.S.P., If, Bwana, Negativeland, Nurse With Wound) of a similar stature with whom he has collaborated or whom he has distributed. I was collaborating with another writer more familiar with this genre/scene to create a better documented page. In fact, he had just completed his draft. Would you consider putting this back up so that the more complete version could be published? Perhaps the better documented version would serve as justification for the subject's noteworthiness.Tsluke (talk) 02:08, 20 June 2011 (UTC)Tsluke
 * Hi, I do NOT recall the specifics but there would not of been a reliable source to support the content of the article. I do not prod(propose deletion) check music related articles that meet the requirements of WP:NMUSIC, so a better documented version of the article would be fine. Also you are able to challenge any decision via WP:UNDELETE etc. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 13:03, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

you made a change in wikepedia page person's last name and it is an incorrect one.
(moved Paolo Iovannone to Paolo Lovannone: Caps for a person)His last name starts with an I and not an L — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueskingee (talk • contribs) 12:07, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * My mistake in reading of font letter, sorry. I have request it be moved back at Requested_moves. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 09:08, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

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Butch Grover PROD
Hey SunCreator-- I just saw your PROD for Butch Grover. Per ATHLETE, head coaches of major college programs seem to be presumed notable, especially when they served as the head coach of a D-1 school for over 20 years. I don't feel it's appropriate for me to remove the PROD though, as right now I have neither the time or willpower to improve this article. Should we bring this issue up to WP:COLB? Nomader ( talk ) 00:34, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Anything that leads to sourcing the claim of notability is welcome. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 00:39, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Declined speedy
Hi SunCreator. Thank you for your work on patrolling new pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for Lil Alpha, a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers and review the criteria for speedy deletion. Particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion, proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion. db-repost does not apply for articles that were previously speedily-deleted; it only applies for articles that were deleted via AfD or MfD.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  02:12, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * "20 June 2011 (Deletion log); 10:44 . . [Peridon (talk | contribs) deleted "Lil Alpha" (A7: Article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)". In what way has the current article exceeded the CSD A7 criteria of 2.5 days ago? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 02:17, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Per WP:G4: "This criterion also excludes content undeleted via deletion review, or which was deleted via proposed deletion or speedy deletion (although in that case the previous speedy criterion, or other speedy criteria, may apply)." It could probably be deleted per WP:A7 again, however.  Eagles   24/7   (C)  02:21, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. There is no rush and it has a prod. Will give it time. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 02:24, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I have deleted it per A7 upon further review.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  02:24, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Gilbert Rozon
Rather than requesting the article be deleted, I think it would be much more productive if you translated it from the original French-language article or, if you cannot understand French, do something else to bring it to the attention of more people. I think it is worthy article for inclusion that should not be removed. NorthernThunder (talk) 12:56, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you would like to do that? Regards, SunCreator (talk)
 * Did you note that I removed the unsourced and potential difficult legal information. We don't want such stuff unless it's fully sourced. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 13:13, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Janelle Brown
Hi SunCreator. You left a message on my talk page notifying me about a PROD for Janelle Brown. Please note, however, that I am not the one who should be notified. Technically, I was the one who created that page, but only for a redirect to someone else who is completely unrelated. The page has since been changed by somebody else to be about an entirely different Janelle Brown than the one that my redirect was about. is the user who should have been notified and, I hope you don't mind, but I simply copy-and-pasted your notification to me onto his talk page. Thanks! —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  15:02, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Great. Thank you! Regards, SunCreator (talk) 15:04, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Johann Otto Uhde article
Hello SunCreator, I think I saved the article Johann Otto Uhde from deletion by adding several references that are quite reputable. The original editor is incredibly hostile, but is apparently quite well informed. It looks like his/her articles are probably worthy of any encyclopedia, but he/she doesn't seem to want to bother with citations, and calls people "douchebag" when they show deletion notices and so forth, so don't be surprised if a note comes your way from TotalFailure. (Yep, that's the name.) Thanks, Hamamelis (talk) 17:44, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The sources are more then adequate now in my view, given that it's not a living person and the material is not controversial. Thanks for the heads up on the creator. My take is to treat everyone nicely and go from there. I reackon all is fine here on this article. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 18:12, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * That's my attitude too. Another user, Hasteur, may have more stringent requirements about notability, so we will see. Thanks, Hamamelis (talk) 18:23, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Kim Komatsu
Hello. For the record, Twitter is not a reliable source, in any form. Per WP:TWITTER, "self-published media, such as books, patents, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, personal or group blogs, Internet forum postings, and tweets, are largely not acceptable as sources." WP:BLPPROD says "BLP deletion template may be removed only after the biography contains a reliable source"  The BLPProd was appropriate for that article at the time. I did see you reverted yourself, but I wanted to explain for the future. Anyway, another editor has found a reliable source so it's a mute point.--v/r - TP 20:06, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm all to familiar with this situation: three points not to overlook. 1) WP:TWITTER says you can use it as a source about the subject. 2. The WP:BLPPROD process doesn't require a reliable source - this is by consensus(and practice) not necessarily the reading of the WP:BLPPROD policy! 3. You'll see I reverted my removal (and unwatched the article) because that level of detail about what may or may not be a suitable prior to BLPPRODding is easy to cause drama about nothing. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 20:25, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Proposal to delete Lotoff
Are you being a bit tough on this article? Someone has put in quite a lot of work on this even though it has some shortcomings. --Greenmaven (talk) 21:16, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * All that is required is one reliable source. It's not a lot to ask for a bio of a living person. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 21:17, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Deletion notice for Gregor Grant
The tags say BLP. Mr. Grant died in 1969. Is there a tag for crappy article about a deceased person? Fotoguzzi (talk) 03:31, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Clearly my mistake! Thanks for pointing it out and adding a source. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 06:48, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. His daughter seems to be on the web, and his son was writing a biography as of a few years ago. Between them, I hope to find some decent secondary sources. Fotoguzzi (talk) 12:18, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Tx
You might want to keep your eye on Sutton. I had tagged it as an unreferenced BLP as well, but been repeatedly reverted. The editor reverting the tags is under final warning, and should be reported if he continues, I would suggest. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 09:17, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Gerald Sutton, noted. Thank you. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 09:29, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Uncat and Catimprove
I'm focusing on Uncat at the moment, but I could have a look at Catimprove too! Or if there's a specific article you had in mind, point me at it. Katharineamy (talk) 19:07, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Virtual Floppy Disk (file type)
Hi, I've "unPRODded" the VFD stub after improving it, please check out that this is as it should be. –89.204.137.192 (talk) 21:57, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, much improved. Thanks. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 22:15, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Pimchanok Luevisadpaibul
I request that the page Pimchanok Luevisadpaibul to be undeleted because I already added one =)) (Source) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danna.Ann (talk • contribs) 03:01, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, unfortunately the source is user generated(WP:USERGENERATED) and so is not considered a reliable source, I've restored the WP:BLPPROD and noted the info on Talk:Pimchanok Luevisadpaibul. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 11:14, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles "Martin Faulkner", "Ruby Fox & Johnny Martin"
Hello, SunCreator,

If I have got this right, you have suggested to delete the articles mentioned in the headline because they lack "reliable sources". I have written them and based them on articles from public newspapers which in England can be found at any bookstall, so the are not obscure in any way and as reliable as the media is supposed to in general. I must admit that a) I do not understand what is wrong about that, b) I do not have the time to spend hours or even days trying to find out by reading my way through "wikipedia" user-talk history which is the reason why I am addressing you directly and I hope this will not annoy or upset you.

In fact I have started editing on "wikipedia" just now ... and I started it with these topics since I kind of "stumbled across" them while doing some scientific research concerning the British vintage movement, which - as a social phenomenon which developed into a sub-culture - is very difficult to trace back to its origins. So I was happy to have found some and thought it would be a good idea to stablish a document on "wikipedia" to support other cultural anthropologists )or other people interested in this subject) in further reasearch.

I also did it because I thought that "wikipedia" is meant to be an online-encyclopedia that (among other things) differs from other sources of knowledge because by its nature it holds a much wider range of knowledge, especially as much as current (and not already historical) facts are concerned. My experiences this far have changed my view on that portal ... but that's a different story.

To come to a conclusion here: I did the best I could to establish facts here that could be useful for other people but as I can see What I did is not accepted because I used sources that are both completely neutral (okay, as much as newspapers and magazines can be) and absolutely open to the public. There is nothing more I can do, so if this is not good enough, then my articles should be deleted. The reason is not at all clear to me and even less when I look at other articles on "wikipedia" and compare their contents with other rules the portal claims to value, especially the one that says that there should be no public relation on here. Anyway. That's all I can say. Thankyou for your time and attention. - doktorjost — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.171.48.45 (talk) 15:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, I was propably being a bit hard. In a spotcheck of Martin Faulkner I didn't understand what you references are however. "Two For The Tango – ArtEast" and "Back to an Era of Style – Best of British", what's that? a book? a magazine? I can't find any book of that name, or any other type of media. If it's a book can you provide it's ISBN? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 15:30, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Emydura signata
Hey Sun, this is not a valid species, has been rendored a junior synonym of the subspecies Emydura macquarrii macquarrii. Cheers Faendalimas (talk) 17:31, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see you are correct. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 19:08, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No probs, I have created a page for Emydura macquarii at last it is basic at the moment, have declared it a stub, but I will expand it. I put the relevant synonymy in there though, this should clarify things a bit for everyone. Cheers Faendalimas (talk) 20:33, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Michele Stratico
It would be helpful if your nomination linked to the previous deletion discussion or title of the previous page. Rmhermen (talk) 18:01, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It is copy/paste translated with Google translate. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 21:58, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 June 2011
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Tadd Mullinix
Hi, I think you've been working on autopilot on this article (maybe it's a Twinkle thing or something, so you can't read my edit summaries?). There are now two articles on this guy - one at Dabrye, which is years old (that's a nom de disque of his), and one under his real name. They should be merged; since this one is newer, I recommended that the merge be into Dabrye. I didn't write this article - all I did was redirect it to Dabrye, but you keep notifying me of the issue instead of the person who actually wrote it (again, this is probably an autopilot thing; whatever script you're running is probably identifying me because I am first in the article history, instead of the guy who started the article). In any case, it would be counterproductive to PROD this and turn it into a redlink, when it should be redirecting again anyway. Thanks. Chubbles (talk) 13:10, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, yes twinkle notifies the creator. Will look at what I can do but phone signal at end of range. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 16:34, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Seems to redirect now. So that seems sorted. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 16:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC)