User talk:Sundae1970

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Happy editing! DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:49, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

March 2024
Hello Sundae1970. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Draft:Hotel Equatorial, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Sundae1970. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:49, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Hotel Equatorial


A tag has been placed on Draft:Hotel Equatorial, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

March 2024
Sundae1970 (talk) 04:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Then what you were doing was meatpuppetry, which is also not permitted. If you were to be unblocked, it would be with the condition that you would not be permitted to do any editing about Hotel Equatorial or anyone or anything related to it. Do you have any other subjects not related to that which you would be interested in editing? Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:33, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Also, you enclosed your appeal in "nowiki" tags, which would have meant it never would show up. I fixed it so that it will. Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:34, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi. I have nothing to edit at this time. I was focused on Hotel Equatorial. I will inform my boss that I will not be able to handle this project anymore. Need to check something though, what if my boss decides to create Hotel Equatorial page or assigns it to someone without my knowledge? What happens then? Sundae1970 (talk) 07:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * They will likely be blocked as a meatpuppet. Your organization needs to stop doing this. No editing Wikipedia, no way around that. Seraphimblade Talk to me 07:35, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I hear you. Please help explain how other hotels get in? E.g. Hilton Hotels & Resorts, Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts, Shangri-La Hotels and Resorts, etc.Thank you Sundae1970 (talk) 07:39, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It is possible to write an article on a business, but it should be done by someone unconnected with the business, because anyone working for or otherwise having a stake in the business will find it extremely difficult to write in a neutral, non-promotional manner.
 * You also have to go about it the right way:
 * First, you disclose your conflict of interest and paid-editing status from the outset, so you're fully transparent about it.
 * Second, you don't use multiple accounts, and if you're collaborating with another editor, you're open about it.
 * Third, you find multiple independent and reliable secondary sources that have provided significant coverage of the subject, and summarise what they have said. You don't add any 'spin' or embellishment to it, no matter how tempted you may be, or how much your boss may insist.
 * You put your draft through the AfC review process rather than attempting to publish it directly, and once published, you don't edit it but make edit requests via the article talk page. You also understand that it is not 'your' article in any sense; it can, and almost certainly will, be edited by others, and they may write things that you would rather not be included.
 * Apart maybe from the last point, you failed to do any of these, hence we are where we are.
 * Finally, you may like to read and show to your boss this: WP:BOSS.
 * HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:57, 21 March 2024 (UTC)