User talk:Sunshineisles2/Archive 2

Introduction
Hello! This is the best place to contact me on this site. Drop me a line and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. You might notice that this page is a lot more blank than it was before. I just archived the last six years of discussion. --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 15:57, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

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 * Um... OK, thanks? I am aware of edit summaries, and I use them quite frequently. I thought I left a summary on the Roper edit, but for some reason it didn't show, if that's what you're all worked up about.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 23:07, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
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 * I became aware of this resolution only after leaving the note. Thanks for letting me know anyway. --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 05:02, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm glad we're on the same page. Cheers! bd2412  T 21:22, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

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Edit warrior Sleyece
Sleyece is edit warring like crazy at Edith Wilson. Do you think we ought to report him to WP: Administrator's noticeboard/Edit warring? I dislike doing that kind of thing but this guy's getting to be a royal pain. Motsebboh (talk) 20:50, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I was going to say no, but considering the fact that Sleyece actually just came on my page and deleted your message in an attempt to prevent me from seeing it, that may be an option to keep on the table in the near future. --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 22:16, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I notice he just came off a suspension for edit warring. He seems to have a habit of erasing stuff he doesn't like, whether it's on an article, his own talk page, or someone else's. Motsebboh (talk) 22:20, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, he has a history of this? Interesting. Yeah, I've stepped back from the Wilson page, because I don't like to waste my time on petty internet fights, but you're right in saying that this is definitely getting ridiculous. --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 22:22, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, and there are other odd things too. such as him Thanking me for an edit that he then erases, and making edit comments that his are OFFICIAL EDITS, not to be undone. Motsebboh (talk) 23:11, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * That is incredibly peculiar. I think we definitely should consider launching some kind of action.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 23:27, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for starting the action. I'll add something before the day is out I'm sure. Motsebboh (talk) 16:40, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Stop spamming reports and ganging up on me. This is nonsense. I made one edit, and you are abusing the report system. -- Sleyece (talk) 12:10, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Dude, you literally just attempted to pre-emptively abort a discussion by flat-out deleting the complaint lodged on the admin edit-war board. You really don't have room to talk about "abusing the report system." Every page has an edit history, and it's public knowledge who edited what page, when they did it, and what they did. One can also restore any old edit. --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 17:13, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * STOP. You have been counter-reported. Please stop harassment. I feel abused by you --User:Sleyece (talk) 12:29, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I am aware of your so-called "counter-report," and will freely participate in any deliberation that may come in the process. --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 17:34, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * As co-conspirator in abuse and harassment Motsebboh has also been reported. I don't feel safe making "bold" edits." --Sleyece (talk) 13:26, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Any complaints you file against another user should be handled among you, them, and the admins which preside over the case. I'm not sure what else you want me to do here.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 18:28, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You are involved. I also posted on the other user's page. The two of you are plotting against me, I harassing me. STOP. I feel unsafe. --Sleyece (talk) 13:36, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you feel that way. But I'm not sure what else to tell you at this stage.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 18:38, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

That was weird. You were admirably restrained in dealing with this poor guy. I see that he was doing the same stuff at Dick Cheney and has been understandably bounced out. Motsebboh (talk) 00:05, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It was definitely one of the most peculiar interactions that I've had in the ~7 years I've been a user on this site. In any case, it looks like it's over now. Thanks for your assistance, and the compliment. Hope to see you around! --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 00:19, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Film
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Your change to United States Secretary of Defense
Hello Sunshineisles2,

I am new to talk pages so please let me know if this is the right place for this kind of commentary and discussion.

Sec. Mattis was sworn in on January 28, 2017. So why should that not be the date he was sworn in on the Wikipedia page?

I understand he was nominated earlier but he did not get sworn in until the 28th which means he was not Secretary until the 28th, to my understanding. Can you please share why you believe this is not true?

Thank you,

To4evr To4evr (talk) 03:29, 29 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm not quite sure about that procedure, but this WaPo article states that Mattis was sworn in by Pence on January 20, shortly after his Senate confirmation. --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 03:34, 29 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for that source. Do you think it is necessary to include that source in the article to get rid of any confusion? As well, do you know what event happened today? Since I thought he was sworn in today (Jan 28). To4evr (talk) 03:39, 29 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't know what happened today, I'm afraid. Perhaps some kind of ceremonial thing. However, the WP reference is already in the article, and that's where I found it.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 03:53, 29 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for clarifying. Keep up your good work! To4evr (talk) 04:22, 29 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks, same to you! --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 04:23, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Twinkle
Is that what it's designed for - reverting "good faith" edits? Really? FFS.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:42, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah? It says “ROLLBACK: AGF” as a distinctly separate category. It retrospectively wasn’t an entirely necessary edit, but my methodology was sound. What’s your point? —Sunshineisles2 (talk) 14:03, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Edit Timothée Chalamet
I understand the guidelines. You should do the same then, to fellow Columbia alumni, Jake Gyllenhaal. That alma mater never goes away, and he never graduated either.
 * It's another page, and if it's been decided to be as such, then there's no reason for it not to be there. If you think Chalamet's infobox should be treated the same way, then you can have that discussion on his article's talk page. --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 19:51, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

January 2018
Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Jessica Falkholt. ''We must have a source before reporting on someone's death. It cannot simply be added.'' TonyBallioni (talk) 01:09, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Couldn't add as much as I could have, I was on mobile at the time. I learned of the news from a news.com.au ref on the recent death article, so that should be added, yes. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 01:11, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem: someone has just added a link so it's in there. Just for future reference remember never to comment on the recent death of someone unless you can cite it to a reliable source in the edit you add the information. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll give your comments and suggestions the consideration they do merit, but frankly, in almost 10 years of editing, I can't recall ever having edited in information about a death on an article where there wasn't already a source, so considering the speed with which these things occur, I find the likelihood if this happening regularly to be unlikely. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 01:21, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Living former governors
What is the utility of this section? --Golbez (talk) 17:05, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * If you take issue with the utility of a living former governor subsection, then you'd have to remove it off the governor list for just about all 50 states. It's a simple way to contextualize the history of the office: objective, easy to maintain, and easily accessible. --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 21:12, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * As a matter of fact, I am, methodically, preferably as each goes through FL. See Alabama, Arkansas, etc. I am exceedingly familiar and involved with these articles. And I don't know if it contextualizes anything, one state having 6 alive is no different from another having 1, etc. For that slim number of people who need to know, the info is extremely easy to synthesize. --Golbez (talk) 03:53, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for sharing your views and your actions. I don't know why you felt I needed to know your credentials on these articles before specifying your position, but in any case, thanks for stopping by! I would go around and try to seek a concrete consensus on removing the lists before adjusting 50 articles, just to avoid any headaches down the line, but if it is as uncontroversial as you say, then probably not. (It does seem that similar lists exist on the pages for most, if not all, 435 congressional districts, which means that at some point, a significant number of editors had to consider them good ideas.)--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 04:05, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Because it felt like you were talking down to me - instead of answering the question about the utility, you implied that it didn't matter, that it didn't need justification if it's already on articles. I apologize for being snippy.
 * As for your statement that "most, if not all" have them, I threw in a few random ones. CO 2: List last touched in 2015. IA 2: Last touched in 2015. VA 9: No list. MN 1: No list. TX 15: no list. DE AL: Last touched in Jan 2017. HI 2: No list. So ... unless this random sampling is unexpectedly non-representational, it doesn't seem in fact that a "significant number" of editors considered them good ideas, or even considered them at all. And a lot can change in article preferences in a few years. Finally, those aren't governor lists. They're done in a completely different way, so it's not the most useful to equate them. --Golbez (talk) 04:59, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Once again, I don't know what you want me to do about this, but I apologize if I came off as dismissive. I think we've strayed far enough away from the subject at hand here that this conversation is effectively exhausted, anyway. Thanks again! --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 05:11, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Sunshineisles2
Hello, I'm User:Reehdelrey, I saw that you deleted content from the Matt Bomer page, I wanted to know why? I've been working on this page for some time. It has no unreliable source. And if the problem is the grammar you could try to arrange not to delete the content. Reehdelrey (talk) 18:00, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello. My concern when streamlining the section was that some of the content, particularly pertaining to Bomer's high school education/early theater experience, was redundant (i.e. a picture of his high school and at least two textual mentions of it). Additionally, some factoids, like the claim of his and Justin Timberlake's common ancestor, were sourced from the IMDb, which, according to WP:CITEIMDB, is not an appropriate use of the website. If such information cannot be reliably sourced, WP:BLP policy is very unambiguous that such information must be removed immediately. (Like Wikipedia, information on the IMDb is user-maintained and subject to constant change, which means it is not appropriate for inclusion here.) I hope that answers some of your concerns! --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 18:15, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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April 2022
Your edit on smith-rock incident and the sentence: "Audience members and television viewers were shocked by the slapping incident and some wondered if the event had been a publicity stunt. The uncensored video footage...". The reference to "uncensored video" in the sentence after the one you just reverted does not make sense without the comment on the muted audio which I had added. Do you have a fix which works to explain the reference to "uncensored video" in the lead section. ErnestKrause (talk) 18:54, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Please see the current revision of the page. I have added context. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 18:54, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

2022 Elections Task Force
Hi Sunshineisles2,

I'm looking at starting a task force of Wikipedia editors to work on the pages of candidates up for election in 2022. Many congressional member pages have very few votes or political positions (for example, compare Michelle Steel and Steve Chabot against Nicole Malliotakis), and so I think it would be a great resource for us to flesh out a lot of these pages ahead of the election to better support people who come to Wikipedia for information before they vote.

I see you've been active on a couple of congressperson pages recently so thought you might be interested. If you are, please message me on my talk page. Once I have a couple of interested editors I will work on building a task force page so we can coordinate our work. No worries at all if you're not interested or too busy. Thanks for everything you do for the Wikipedia communtiy!

Wildfire35 (talk) 23:01, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Regards
Hi Sunshineisles2, I just wanted to say thanks for the editorial work you do on recent deaths pages. You do a great job. I'd say more, but I'm too far into this bottle of wine.;-) Regards, Carlstak (talk) 02:37, 10 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the kind words. I never consciously gravitated towards those but I guess I do. It can feel morbid sometimes, but articles do tend to get a big surge in page views if they're about someone who just died, so I figure it's important to make sure the articles are in good shape and well-sourced. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 15:52, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Same here, and I completely agree with the sentiments; I've had the very same thoughts. Carlstak (talk) 17:43, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It is most definitely a noble calling and I would argue a sign of respect, making sure that articles that are bound to get an influx of page views are kept up to date. In reading this, I am reminded of this article by ; it isn't a complete match but it is the same topic. The SandDoctor  Talk 19:08, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Sorry for the misunderstanding!
I assumed your comment on the Monkeypox talk page was a reply to my last comment so I took the liberty of adding indentation. Sorry about that! &#123;{u&#124; Gtoffoletto  &#125;}  talk 16:47, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * No worries! I just wanted to be clear: my response was directly to the first poster and the claim that they were making, and I frankly think they're arguing in bad faith or something very close to it. I responded as such, in a way that was a tad brusque by my personal standards ( actually even moreso as I was drafting it, but I let myself cool down before posting). I just wanted to be clear who I was directing that specific response (and tone) towards. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 16:53, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Raymond Briggs
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 * My personal take on using the RD template might be a bit narrower than many editors, but I think using it is only necessary as a kind of warning to readers that the information on the page is very fluid and subject to rapid change. On the editor's side, this is probably experienced by logging in to edit and having a decent chance that anything you do will run into an edit conflict. Considering that Briggs did at an advanced age from natural causes, and the facts about his death (date, cause, location) have all been confirmed by media outlets, my feeling is that the article will probably stay virtually as is with respect to his death. That, coupled with the slowdown in editing activity, is why I removed the template. I didn't foresee any more updates about his death that would cause sudden/wide-scale turnover on the article. --Sunshineisles2 (talk) 17:39, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh right - from what I'd seen I was under the impression that the facts about his death had not all been confirmed yet. In that case I understand and agree with ur decision to remove it, thank u.Stephanie921 (talk) 21:57, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Anne Heche
...You are bolder than I. lol. Glad you removed the day. I was nervous just adding the note. Her talk page has turned into a dark place. It's been a long time since I've been involved in a page with so much editing warring and Talk page combat. I'm not certain, but I think I got told off by someone was England. It's hard to tell because when they tell you off, they are still polite. ;) Cheers P37307 (talk) 22:46, 15 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Haha, yeah. I just looked at the absolute mess in the talk page—multiple arguments about the same thing happening in different sections simultaneously!—and thought that if removing the date made things even slightly calmer, it was worth it. Pending some further developments, I figured that choosing any one date in particular was likely to just spark more arguments, and so it was best to leave the date blank for now. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 23:32, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * I provided an explanation in the edit summary. MOS:FONTSIZE specifically advises against making the font size smaller in infoboxes, because IB font size is already smaller than that of prose text. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 20:49, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

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Picture
Why not post a picture? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabi%C3%A1n_O%27Neill. 5.91.29.221 (talk) 03:16, 26 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, photos may be added to an article as long as they comply with Wikipedia's image policy regarding copyright and licensing. If you know of a photo of O'Neill which meets that criteria, you can upload it at this page. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 03:24, 26 December 2022 (UTC)


 * https://www.wikiwand.com/it/Fabi%C3%A1n_O%27Neill. The photo that's here... can you upload it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.91.29.221 (talk) 03:47, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not an expert on this matter, but it appears that this photo is only available on Italian-language Wikipedia for copyright reasons. Due to differences in national copyright laws, this photo appears to only be in the public domain in Italy. A note on the photo's page explicitly says that it cannot be moved to Wikimedia Commons, which is where it would have to go to be universally accessible on other Wikipedias, such as the English-language one. The relevant Italian law cited on the file says that photos taken in Italy that are "non-creative" enter the public domain 21 years after their creation. American copyright law does not have an equivalent rule, and because English-language Wikipedia is hosted on servers based in the US, its public domain policy is based on the laws of the United States, per the image policy.
 * Again, I'm not an expert on these policies, so it's possible I may be wrong, but my understanding is that the photo can't be moved onto English-language Wikipedia at this time. It might be better to ask about it at the help desk, where there may be editors who know more about this than me. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 05:32, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe, this photo: https://www.eurosport.it/calcio/serie-a/2019-2020/grave-fabian-o-neill-l-uruguaiano-ex-cagliari-e-juventus-ricoverato-per-cirrosi-epatica_sto7792328/story-amp.shtml.
 * I can't see that photo, the page is not available in my region.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 20:57, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Here is it possible that you see? https://www.elpais.com.co/deportes/futbol-internacional/fallecio-fabian-o-neill-exjugador-de-la-seleccion-uruguaya-y-la-juventus.html
 * Yes, I see that picture, but it can't be uploaded unless it complies with the image policy. It looks like it's a file photo from AFP, and without any indication that it's been freely licensed, it can't be added. While photos of deceased people have generally more leeway than photos of living people, this policy points out that a photo taken from a press agency like AFP is unlikely to be judged to meet fair use standards in most cases.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 01:35, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Number of mentions
Go find several or dozens of Wikipedia articles where the subject has died. How many times is the day of death mentioned?Infactinteresting (talk) 06:47, 31 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Here are some notable deaths of this year as they currently appear. The answer is almost always twice.
 * Mikhail Gorbachev: once in the lead sentence, once in the infobox.
 * Pelé: once in the lead sentence, once in the infobox.
 * Angela Lansbury: once in the lead sentence, once in the infobox.
 * Sidney Poitier: once in the lead sentence, once in the infobox.
 * Madeleine Albright: once in the lead sentence, once in the infobox.
 * Jean-Luc Godard: once in the lead sentence, once in the infobox.
 * Olivia Newton-John: once in the lead sentence, once in the infobox.
 * Loretta Lynn: once in the lead sentence, once in the infobox.
 * Exceptions are usually cases like Queen Elizabeth II, where her death and funeral were so newsworthy that they had entire separate articles. Barbara Walters' death is big news, but it's extremely unlikely her funeral will be so newsworthy it will inspire its own article. But if it does, it can be linked then if necessary. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 06:54, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This is ludicrous. I went to the Gorbachev article. Three mentions.Infactinteresting (talk) 07:01, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * We're talking about lead sections, right? In the current revision, Gorbachev's date of death mentioned exactly once in the first sentence, and a second time in the appropriate parameter in the infobox. If we're talking about the whole article, it's mentioned a third time in the "death" section. In Barbara Walters' article, her date of death is mentioned three times: the lead sentence, the infobox, and in the "health and death" section. Even if, as you claimed, there was some policy that it had to be mentioned three times (and there's not), adding a second mention of her date of death to the lead paragraphs would make it four.Sunshineisles2 (talk) 07:05, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * We agree four is too many. The Walters article is being edited unnecessarily. Yes, she was a prominent figure but I would say "article bloat" is happening or will occur.Infactinteresting (talk) 07:10, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

UPDATE
Hey, it's me again. I went on the Gov. Hobbs' page and I gave you the sources from twitter confirming the age and birthday, but still don't see it anywhere Ramireznatalie (talk) 22:45, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I've just added them now. I think they should be fine as they fall within the parameters of WP:TWITTER on when self-published social media posts can be used as sources. Thank you for finding them.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 23:55, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Maryellen Goodwin
Hi, Sunshineisles2. With this edit you removed a hidden comment on the Maryellen Goodwin article and added a date of death. I've had a look at the source you added and I can't see that it verifies the information you added – would you mind confirming where in the source it says it? Thanks, MIDI (talk) 16:50, 18 April 2023 (UTC) Retracting this – misread the diff and saw someone else's ref next to the text and read that rather than the Dignity ref you provided... as you were! :) MIDI (talk) 16:57, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Stephen Sondheim
Hi there, would you mind commenting at Talk:Stephen Sondheim? Much appreciated, &#8209;&#8209;Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 20:05, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I just ran the overlink script again and I did add a brief comment on the page, though I'm not sure how much else there is to add beyond that. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 20:14, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Paul Hinrichs
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Robert Hanssen
Hi, with regard to your edit summary "It was literally right there" -- please check the page history as it was not "literally right there" at the time I edited it in. It was subsequently added later. Please assume good faith when editing and refrain from snarky edit summaries. Thanks ⇒   SWAT Jester   Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 18:51, 5 June 2023 (UTC)


 * My comment was not directed at anyone in particular. I saw a line of text that was extraneous to the article and removed it. My only frustration was that it came in a sentence consecutive to another one remarking on Hanssen's death. It was not meant to rebuke or belittle you or any other editor, and I apologize that it appeared that way. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 18:58, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Treat Williams
With this edit you introduced incorrect information into the article. No car hit Williams, and the article did not say that. Please be more careful. Miner Editor (talk) 12:34, 13 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The article absolutely does say that: "'He was killed this afternoon. He was making a left or a right [and] a car cut him off," McPherson says [...] Per [Jacob Gribble, the fire chief for Dorset, Vermont], the incident involved a single car and Williams' motorcycle. Investigators believe the driver of the car was turning and didn’t see the motorcycle. Gribble says the motorcyclist was the only person hurt and a LifeNet helicopter was summoned to airlift him to a hospital in New York." Sunshineisles2 (talk) 13:56, 13 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The article says the car "cut him off". That means the car pulled in front of Treat, and then Treat hit the car, not the other way around. Miner Editor (talk) 14:07, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The article, as it currently stands, describes the incident as relayed in a police report without needing that particular verbiage in either direction. I think that should work for now. I do agree that it should not feature that presumption. I think I misunderstood your first comment: when I saw the message, the article did not mention any details of the incident at all, and simply said Williams was "involved in a motorcycle accident", and I somehow thought there was a dispute over whether there was a car at all, which I obviously objected to. I now understand what you're saying. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 14:10, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Regarding 2023 Titan submersible incident
I would like to request a second opinion regarding a category that was discussed on the talk page. There was a request to use Category:United States submarine accidents instead of Category:Submarine accidents. I initially thought that if I did so, it would be implying that it was a US Navy submarine due to the categories at the bottom. However, after further comments, I thought that I had gotten it backwards, but now I am thinking that I was initially correct as Category:Submarines of the United States Navy lists Category:United States submarine accidents as a sub-category. To make sure that I am not goofing it up, which way is correct? --Super Goku V (talk) 00:05, 23 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure. I wondered about this and ultimately did not make any changes to the category for this reason. However, I will note that the Rescue of Roger Mallinson and Roger Chapman article is in Category:British submarine accidents, despite the fact that it is not related to the Category:Royal Navy Submarine Service category it is a part of. But I don't know if this means the Titan article should be added or the other one should be removed. Upon further thought, my instinct would be that the Titan article should be added to the category, because it was a vessel from a U.S.-based company, but it is just an instinctive response from looking at the category names and little else. Sorry I can't offer a more definitive reading. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 01:18, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

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Nice comment at the noticeboard
"Add in the inherent tension of ITN discussions—major, real-world tragedies being callously reduced to their 'notability'—and it's a recipe for the brutal and toxic environment that's festered on that board."

This was nicely said. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 17:02, 22 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the kind words. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 21:17, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

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