User talk:SuperFly

S-Run
Hi there. I don't know if you've noticed but the site S-Run has been removed from the Shadowrun page many times in the past. This is because the site doesn't offer any encyclopaedic value to enhance the article, but is instead just a site to link together people's Shadowrun games for IRC play. Please read WP:External links as the site just isn't suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. Please don't add it in again. In addition it is obvious from your username that you are involved in the site and are therefore using Wikipedia to promote your own page, this is against Wikipedia policies. Wikipedia is not a collection of links and is not an advertising forum to promote your own site. Such use is determined to be linkspamming. Ben W Bell  talk  08:15, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You have added in the S-Run external link again. Yet again it has been removed. Wikipedia is not here for your own self-promotion and continuous addition of this link constitutes link spamming. If you continue to persist in adding it then you will unfortunately be blocked from editing on Wikipedia. Ben W Bell   talk  07:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Ben, you obviously did not look into what the #S-Run Community is. The channel #s-run on undernet was formed over 10 years ago as a branch-off of the Dumpshock IRC community over creative differences between administrators. Since I inherited channel admin duties 6 years ago, we have become the largest and most active IRC-based Shadowrun communtiy in the entire world. We run Shadowrun games at least 4 nights out of the week, and have GM's hailing from around the globe. Not even Dumpshock has the amount of IRC traffic and Shadowrun game-playing activity that we pull on a nightly basis. Also, as far as encyclopedic content goes, the 'Shadowrun Datafile' contains adventures, mods, alternate rulesets, shadowrun-related programs, information on movies and music based-on or related to Shadowrun, and plenty more. The community has also been the only one to subtitle and release german-language Shadowrun fan films (winners of the official contest, no less) to the english-speaking public. We may not have the massive amount of content available on some other sites, but our focus is also on getting more and more people to PLAY the game -- instead of just discussing it in forums. As illustrated, our contributions to the Shadowrun fanbase are nothing to scoff at, and I believe we have every right to be included on the wikipedia external links page. My posting the link is not for promotion, but to inform hungry players worldwide that an extremely-active Shadowrun gaming community is available to them 24/7. Thanks for your time and I hope to hear back from you soon.[(SuperFly), April 17, 2007, 03:43am CST]


 * Hi again. I've raised this issue on the Shadowrun article talk page. Lets see what the community as a whole thinks. It has been removed several times in the past, and you are involved which would normally be against Wikipedia policies but lets see what others think. Ben W Bell   talk  09:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Ben. [SuperFly, April 17, 2007, 09:52am CST]


 * I only removed it because it has been continually removed in the past, and your obvious connection to the site, but after looking through it again I'm inclined to put it back in myself anyway. Put it this way, if you re-add it I'll not remove it. Ben W Bell   talk  10:35, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate your fairness on the situation. I understand that you were just doing your part on the wiki. Thank you very much. If you ever get the inclination, you're more than welcome to join us anytime. [SuperFly, April 18, 2007]


 * I'd love to play Shadowrun again, so maybe I will. I still collect and read all the books, have done since it was first released, just don't play. Ben W Bell   talk  19:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Before #S-Run, I had been collecting and reading everything SR-related that I could get my hands on for about 4 years without getting to play once. So, needless to say, I was pretty stoked to finally have a gaming group. Just as heads up, there's a Java IRC applet on the site that'll get you to the channel without having to download a client. Hope to see you around sometime! [SuperFly, April 19, 2007, 08:11am CST]