User talk:SuperJew/2017

another hat-trick that may or may not have happened
Tameka Butt : Did she or didnt she: ????
 * YES   http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/glory-advance-after-draws-for-frontrunners/gxc7s16ajrci1h6hjhfvuln99
 * NO    http://www.w-league.com.au/matchcentre/Brisbane-Roar-FC-Women-v-Western-Sydney-Wanderers-Women/888673
 * WHO KNOWS ? Matilda Maniac (talk) 19:31, 9 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Twitter seems to all say own goal by Whyman. The Women's Game marks it as such while both WS Wanderers and Brisbane Roar mention Gorry as the shooter (not Butt). I'd go with Whyman own goal. --SuperJew (talk) 19:45, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

I'm supposed to shame you back into studying!

 * ) RCP here, saw the notice on your user page and thought I'd pop in and say hi. I think your username is awesome. Happy editing/studying L3X1 My Complaint Desk 20:50, 1 February 2017 (UTC)


 * You are right!!! I'm going back! Cheers --SuperJew (talk) 21:06, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Tameka Butt again . ..
whats your source for club caps as per your recent Tameka Butt edit ? Im thinking of updating Most appearances and wondering the best way. Matilda Maniac (talk) 11:04, 13 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I try to take from Soccerway usually, but they seem to be missing stats for the 2008-09 season, so for players who've been around since the beginning (like Butt) I took from worldfootball. --SuperJew (talk) 11:23, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Matilda Maniac (talk) 12:52, 13 February 2017 (UTC)


 * procrastination and multitasking :(
 * You are right though! I'll try to will myself to go off for the rest of today! --SuperJew (talk) 11:23, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia - It's a Trap

Stub ratings
Hi, just thought I would give you a bit of clarification regarding the stub ratings for the Collingwood season pages as I didn't have enough space in the edit summary. Quite I while ago, I brought up on WT:AFL how we should be rating our season articles as most of the VFL/AFL ones are classed as lists and I thought they should be start-class. The answers were that in order to be classed as start, C, B and so on they need to have enough prose to be classed that way and not just solely results/ladders/list items and so on. When I was going through all the season related pages that were stubs yesterday, I did change some to start that were obviously more than a stub such as this one. Some were line ball, including the Collingwood pages, but the reason I didn't change them to starts is because nearly all the prose is list items, i.e. award winners and results. When I said to add more prose, 2017 Hawthorn Football Club season is a good example of a type of prose to add (club summary, senior personnel and fixture summary). Also, just for future reference, if you do remove a stub template because you believe it shouldn't be rated that way, can you please also change the rating on the talk page as pages should have both the talk page rating and stub template on the article, not one or the other. It's mainly for easier tracking so articles show up on clean-up lists and become more likely people will expand the article. Thanks, Flickerd (talk) 07:21, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

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Question regarding Jewish culture on Hasid (term)
Hi again, SuperJew! On STiki I saw this edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hasid_(term)&oldid=769020489, and guessed that it was done by a Jewish IP editor because of how they wrote G-d, and "ch" instead of "h" (interpretation of ה vsח or ק). I reverted it due it not being proper writing, but wasn't sure of how sound the edit was, and if I should have just fixed the bad parts. I also don't know if my vandalism tag was right or wrong. If you would check it out I'd appreciate it. Thanks. L3X1 My Complaint Desk 03:24, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Changing Nationalities of Players
Hi SuperJew, as you already know you changed Besart Berisha, he is registered with the Kosovo National side, even though he hasn't won a cap, he is still technically from Kosovo. Please refrain from changing information in the future without proper backing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Secondwilldo (talk • contribs) 06:08, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey, could you please show me reliable source showing Berisha has been registered or called-up to the Kosovo team? I looked around and couldn't find anything, including on FFK's site. --SuperJew (talk) 09:09, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Haz
re: 1999 Squad revert --> Haz has no caps with the nt per her Canada Soccer profile. Hmlarson (talk) 22:32, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know, but the whole page has redlinks. So either unlink all the redlinked players or keep them redlinked. --SuperJew (talk) 22:36, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I unlink players that clearly don't meet notability guidelines. Some are more ambiguous. Hmlarson (talk) 22:37, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * IMO it should be consistent for the page. --SuperJew (talk) 22:38, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok. Not a big deal to me. Where are you finding the caps for the Russian players? I've left the players that did not play in their respective tournament caps red - but would make blue if I can find nt caps somewhere other than FIFA, Soccerway. Hmlarson (talk) 22:41, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Soccerway --SuperJew (talk) 15:50, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

A-League Finals
Venues have been officially confirmed for week 1 of the A-League Finals Series should Brisbane Roar finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at Suncorp Stadium on Friday April 21st or Saturday April 22nd due to their 2017 AFC Champions League commitments in Thailand on Wednesday April 26th, should Melbourne City finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at AAMI Park, and should Perth Glory finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at NIB Stadium with dates and kickoff times to be confirmed by Football Federation Australia on Sunday April 16th after round 27 fixtures have finished.

Sydney FC's home knockout semi final has been officially confirmed by Tony Pignata on twitter and from Tom Smithies from Daily Telegraph in Sydney saying that it'll be played definitely be at Allianz Stadium 100% regardless who it is against on either Saturday April 29th (against Melbourne City OR Perth Glory) OR Sunday April 30th (against Brisbane Roar OR Western Sydney Wanderers).

And for Melbourne Victory's home knockout semi final it'll be played at either AAMI Park (against Brisbane Roar OR Perth Glory OR Western Sydney Wanderers) or Etihad Stadium (against Melbourne City) confirmed by David Davutovic from Herald Sun in Melbourne its depending on the opponent Melbourne Victory gets with the dates and kickoff time to be confirmed by Football Federation Australia after final round of the regular season and after week 1 of the A-League Finals results.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.34.50 (talk) 04:13, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * So apart from the Twitter confirmation (which isn't a reliable, verifiable source) nothing is confirmed. Patience. --SuperJew (talk) 19:29, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

RfC on WP:NAFL
Hi, I've currently opened a discussion at Requests for comment/Sports notability guideline in regards to notability for players in the AFL Women's competition. Due to your involvement in editing AFL Women's related articles, I thought you may be interested in joining in the discussion. Thanks, Flickerd (talk) 13:26, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Sorry
My 11 year old did this and has been banned from the screen!!! Keep up The good work Mum — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iliketurtlescause (talk • contribs) 09:57, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

I-League hattricks
Hey, just out of curiosity: What is with the interest in the hat-tricks page all of a sudden for the I-League? I love it, just never thought I would see you editing them a lot haha. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 22:33, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Hey :) I was looking at the "List of hat-tricks pages" and it looked like they needed updating, so I'm working my way through them :) --SuperJew (talk) 16:08, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The one (possibly only?) (former) I-League player from Australia that I know of was Matthew Foschini, with 19 caps for Salgaocar F.C., if you care for that bit of trivia? He's been back in the Victorian NPL for a while now. Eliyohub (talk) 17:37, 30 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks ! I love those random trivia nuggets :) I actually know that Leo Bertos played for East Bengal after transferring there from Wellington Phoenix. Technically he is of course a kiwi, but the Phoenix do play in the A-League ;) --SuperJew (talk) 18:42, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Redundancy
Because squad numbers are not used below step 2 of Non-League, and nationalities aren't readily available. Season articles from Non-League also fail criteria needed to allow a page. ReallyThinBread (talk) 13:17, 8 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Usually in such cases, the majority of cases is to not even have current squad then. --SuperJew (talk) 16:31, 8 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Why not just reformat to information you can provide? Dont need to throw the baby out with the bath water. RTB. ReallyThinBread (talk) 13:50, 12 June 2017 (UTC)


 * If nationality isn't readily available, I doubt caps+goals are --SuperJew (talk) 14:40, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Shouldnt speculate. Theres loads theough footballwebpages and club statistic archives and programmes. All legit source. RTB. ReallyThinBread (talk) 21:01, 12 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Lol and saying "nationalities aren't readily available" isn't speculating? 🙄 --SuperJew (talk) 21:13, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Nope. I guarantee you can find stats a lot easier than nationalities. RTB ReallyThinBread (talk) 11:34, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

June 2017
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 * What do you mean "Returning to the same formatting used in every other football article"? Did you read the linked discussions: Talk:2018 FIFA World Cup qualification (UEFA) and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 104? --SuperJew (talk) 21:19, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I had not seen those discussions, but I must ask if you are also going to change the formatting in all other articles related to 2018 World Cup qualification? If you are, then I won't contest your changes; but if you are only going to change a few articles, then I will change them back to maintain consistency throughout all articles related to the tournament. — Jkudlick &#x2693; t &#x2693; c &#x2693; s 21:36, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * As I explained here, I am planning on changing all other articles related to 2018 World Cup qualification (and football articles in general), to maintain consistency with this better format (which has consensus of being a better format, apart from a few "I don't like it"s). However, everything takes time, and I am currently busy with uni work IRL. It would of course be easier and smoother if other editors helped change to the better format, instead of working against it with straw man arguments. --SuperJew (talk) 21:52, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I understand this can be a long process. I will help wherever/whenever I can, but I do not have time for a few days. I also replied at Talk:2018 FIFA World Cup qualification (UEFA). — Jkudlick &#x2693; t &#x2693; c &#x2693; s 16:19, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Dzsenifer Marozsan's nationality
Dzsenifer is born in Hungary, ergo she is Hungarian. There is also a sourced interview with her where she clearly states she considers herself Hungarian. You can be Hungarian and play for a different national team, consider e.g. Ferenc Puskas who also played for Spain. As far as Google shows, Germany does not allow dual citizenship and Dzsenifer has not given up her Hungarian citizenship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.139.10.162 (talk) 11:55, 23 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Her main nationality which is relevant to her Wikipedia page is the nationality relevant to her soccer career, which is the German nationality. Therefore that is the main one (though Hungarian-born is also mentioned). --SuperJew (talk) 12:04, 23 July 2017 (UTC)


 * She is Hungarian playing for Germany, not Hungarian-born. Playing in a different national team does not change one's nationality. There is no main nationality, Germany does not allow dual citizenship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.139.10.162 (talk) 12:14, 23 July 2017 (UTC)


 * You don't randomly play for a national team. It's based on nationality. Her notability of having a page on Wikipedia is from her sporting career, and therefore her sports related nationality is the one which takes precedence. --SuperJew (talk) 12:43, 23 July 2017 (UTC)


 * It's based on nationality. No. Her nationality is very clearly Hungarian. She considers herself Hungarian. Her international achievements should be noted for the German national team. It does not change her nationality.


 * Nationality doesn't have to be one country. You don't just turn up for a national team with no ties to that country. See discussion here. --SuperJew (talk) 13:23, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Bianca Gray for deletion
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Your AFDs
Are reaching WP:POINT territory, so I politely suggest you stop and log off and calm down for a bit. Don't take the Bianca Gray AFD so personally. GiantSnowman 16:58, 31 July 2017 (UTC)


 * WP:POINT - When you have a point to make, use direct discussion only. When I brought these up in the direct discussion I was told This isn't really the forum to discuss other players' notability, I've already reassured you that if there are articles on any player whom you feel fails GNG, you should feel free to take them to AfD, so that's what I did. --SuperJew (talk) 17:02, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
 * But sending a multitude of articles - many of which are notable - to AFD is POINTy. GiantSnowman 17:07, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Nix players you removed
Questions on the nix players you removed here [], I would think at the least Sarpreet Singh should still be in the list as I'm positive he has a fulltime contract but also him, Jack-Henry Sinclair and Liam Wood are all playing for the Nix tonight against WSW. NZ Footballs Conscience (talk) 10:25, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I was debating about Singh but I couldn't find mention of a senior contract for him - do you have a source for that? Regarding the rest, playing in a specific match doesn't mean they have a senior contract and doesn't mean they should be listed in the first-team squad. But I am adding them (right now actually) to the squad statistics on the current season page. --SuperJew (talk) 10:28, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for the mix-up with Singh and the reverts. You were correct and I have ammended the season page to show Singh joining the senior team from the youth team. Thanks for the understanding and the source referral. --SuperJew (talk) 11:00, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

no problem, I appreciate what you do for the pages and the Wiki football community. Also thank you for explaining things to me as I learn and make mistakes. NZ Footballs Conscience (talk) 19:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Uzbek League
Please don't add leagues to WP:FPL without gaining consensus on the talk page first, as this forms part of a widely accepted guideline, decisions on inclusion / exclusion should not be made unilaterally. The reference you provided does not necessarily support full professionalism. The fact that acknowledged fully professional leagues were not at that meeting indicates that having that status was not a prerequisite to attending. Fenix down (talk) 13:58, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * C'mon, the official name of the league is "Uzbek Professional Football League". You want to talk about references? Half of the references on that essay are deadlinks and out-of-date. --SuperJew (talk) 14:10, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

But not Fully Professional. Links may be dead, but they can be found again archived on the Wayback Machine. Furthermore, because there would have been discussion on the talk page before hand, that can be referenced to confirm that the link, when live confirmed fully professional status. Fenix down (talk) 15:09, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Could you give me an example of such a confirmation, for example with the Tippeligaen (which has a subscription needed dead-link currently)? --SuperJew (talk) 15:16, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks like that was added only a few months after the list was first put together nearly nine years ago. The fact that the same link supported Sweden and Denmark and has gone unchallenged for all this time indicates that, whilst it is a shame it is dead and seemingly not archived, we can assume it supported fully pro status. Further more, this link from the Eliteserien site itself shows high level financial performance for all the clubs. Given the turnovers noted and the fact that all clubs made profits bar three which made a small loss, I think we can assume fully pro status based on this as well. Can I ask you please to stop trying to trip me up. More than one editor / admin has commented on your pointy behaviour recently in AfD, you have now started trying to make unilateral changes to a page which is often used to support a key notability guideline. I'm not the only one who's getting a bit tired of your behaviour over the last couple of days, all of which seems to have escalated from AfD on an article you created apparently not going your way. Fenix down (talk) 15:49, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Collaboration
With all this talk about collaboration, I'd really like to get the Sam Kerr article improved to GA. Would you be interested in working on it .... collaboratively? Hmlarson (talk) 17:01, 2 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Hey, I won't have much time tomorrow or over the weekend, but I can for sure look at it next week. Might even have some time tonight too. --SuperJew (talk) 17:03, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
 * What needs to be done to improve it to GA? --SuperJew (talk) 17:04, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh sure, no huge rush. I was thinking of working on it maybe over the next month or two. The content needs to be expanded/fleshed out mostly and be well-referenced. Megan Rapinoe, Maribel Dominguez, Kim Little or Katie Chapman (or any listed in WikiProject Football/Women's football task force/Recognized content ) are some examples of other WOSO player articles that have passed GA. Good article criteria explains a little more detail. I wouldn't be surprised if she makes a huge leap in WikiProject Football/Women's football task force/Popular pages for July-August. Hmlarson (talk) 17:22, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The Popular articles report was updated. Kerr jumped from 200-something to #80. Former W-League player Elyse Perry at #3. Thought you might enjoy. Hmlarson (talk) 13:07, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Fantastic! Perry's amazing as she plays cricket and soccer --SuperJew (talk) 13:10, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

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GNG / NFOOTY
With your experience w/ men's football articles, are you able to provide some more examples of some that meet WP:NFOOTY and not WP:GNG when you have a chance? Hmlarson (talk) 14:54, 9 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Some examples of players who have a handful of international caps but barely beyond that: Remy Kalsrap, Kolinio Sivoki, Junior Albert, Sorencio Juliaans, Paul Collins and pretty much any player who made a small debut for a small nation. They technically pass NFOOTY because of the couple of international caps (which isn't that hard in some countries, where accountants and electricians play on the national team, and gives us the wonderful Sammarinese players Juri Biordi, Elia Benedettini, Tommaso Zafferani, Alessandro D'Addario, Michael Battistini, Lorenzo Lunadei, Filippo Berardi, Filippo Berardi, Alessandro Bianchi. and that's only from the last couple squads... going back in the years would bring more examples and even less presumble notable if their careers are done). --SuperJew (talk) 15:05, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. WP:NFOOTY isn't technically enough; WP:GNG must me met for inclusion on Wikipedia. Is that your understanding as well? Hmlarson (talk) 15:18, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I mainly have a problem with the vast willingness to delete women footballers and not include them in the notability guidelines as opposed to men, who get a "technical pass" if they played 5 minutes. When the same guideline doesn't give the same amount of leagues then it can't be relevant to both genders. Much as we don't have only pro hockey players because there's no pro hockey leagues, we shouldn't require pro as a criteria for women when there's only 2 or 3 women's leagues considered pro by NFOOTY. --SuperJew (talk) 16:27, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

My edits
Thanks for your help with my edits. Still learning how things are done plus my Geography isn’t greatest so wasn’t sure if use sydney or Seven hills... NZ Footballs Conscience (talk) 07:43, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries :D Really appreciate your help! --SuperJew (talk) 07:44, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

2016 and 2017 National Women's League
Hi SuperJew, wondering if you can do me a favour? I'm doing the pages for the NZ National Women's League for 2017 (Upcoming season) and for the 2016. Can you please have a look and tell me if they are ok? Main thing I'm not sure how to show is the team that has a bye, I'm not sure the way I've done it at the moment looks the best. NZ Footballs Conscience (talk) 10:25, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Looks good at first glance ! As I'm looking through I'm making changes with comments on the edit summaries. --SuperJew (talk) 12:25, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * JK, I'll drop some comments here (when they include questions :)). So first up, the leagues should have a lead something like last season's A-League: "The 2016–17 A-League was the 40th season of top-flight soccer in Australia, and the 12th since the establishment of the A-League in 2004. The season began on 7 October 2016." I'm not sure on the count of the seasons exactly so I'll leave that to you. The current lead is more fitting for the page about the league itself as a whole. --SuperJew (talk) 12:29, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Cheers for that, yeah copied from blurb of competition so will update about what number season it is. For that Mainland/Canterbury United question, yes they used to be Mainland and changed to Canterbury United now, after Ive done these seasons, my plan was to do each regions page like the Auckland and Northern ones, just wanted to get the season pages together first. Thanks for having a look for me. NZ Footballs Conscience  (talk) 12:40, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Regarding formatting of football boxes, I'd recommend spacing it in a more editor-friendly way. For now I would suggest changing it in 2016 only if you really have nothing else to do, but for 2017 it'd be great if you start out with a more spaced version.
 * I'll show an example. You used:
 * A better spaced version (also used easier formatting for reports and goals) would be (I'm not managing to get it to display properley on the talk page, so look at the wikicode):
 * A better spaced version (also used easier formatting for reports and goals) would be (I'm not managing to get it to display properley on the talk page, so look at the wikicode):


 * Also, for goalscorers we use only the family name (without first name initial) in most cases (unless there are two players with the same family name in the club or league). --SuperJew (talk) 12:48, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * , Regarding the bye format, personally I'm not sure how necessary it is to say explicitly that a team is on a bye, and I personally leave it out and trust the reader to infer from omission of the team that they're bye. If you do want to keep it, I'd say it's in a good placement, but I'd have it smaller and with the word "bye" ordered before the name of the team, like is done here. --SuperJew (talk) 13:07, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you heaps again for your help, will make those changes and updates today. NZ Footballs Conscience  (talk) 20:53, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * No worries ! Happy to help :) --SuperJew (talk) 21:04, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Nikita Rukavytsya
So, he's been recalled to the national team (not that I'm hugely surprised, seeing he is playing first regularly). Have you caught much of him? I know near-on nothing from the Israeli Premier League, so I'm wondering where the competition's quality generally rates? Reckon he's a reasonable call-up to the NT?


 * It's weird... cause Ange says he wants first team regulars, but then keeps selecting Kruse and Brad Smith, so... Haven't actually had the chance&time to go to any games in the last few years, but I saw him a bit on TV, especially when he was playing for Beitar. I'd say the IPL isn't too high level.. about the quality of Eastern Europe leagues (like Bulgaria/Hungary/Moldova) - make it to the UEFA Champions League once in a few years and never get past the group stage. The local level&development is pretty bad, because there isn't a lot of budgeting and education to sport in general (though soccer is the top sport here). I don't think he's level has improved much from when he was at WS Wanderers. I think he's a reasonable call-up though, considering other options on the wings.. I'd say he's not at Leckie's level (on club form, but we know Leckie hardly ever manages to deliver on the international stage), but better than Kruse's national performances. Also it might be useful to have him as a striker option with our limited stocks. --SuperJew (talk) 07:51, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't mind him being selected then, as match fitness at a decent level is something the NT is struggling with... I honestly regret Smith's move to Bournemouth. I know it sounded like a great move for him at the time, but he was getting playtime at Liverpool and now has been a waste of £10m. Kruse has to have some incriminating evidence on Ange to constantly warrant being picked as a starter. Leckie might not deliver (hopefully not a new Scott McDonald), but he does seem to at least be a threat. Kruse will waste a half chance and then stand where he took his shot and look around in disbelief for a long time (seriously, you'll notice it from now on)! He has very poor second efforts, whereas Leckie makes effort. Still though, what you do reckon our chances are of getting past Syria and the CONCACAF 4th placers? - J man708 (talk) 08:25, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah I agree about Leckie, he def shows the effort always.. it just frustrates me because he actually manages to score at club level.. I really want to see the chances given to players who are performing at club level but haven't gotten the NT chance, like Jeggo, Goodwin, Gersbach & Ruka. I think we should easily getting past Syria, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if Ange fucks up tactically again. Tactically the Syrian coach is doing much better than Ange and is using every trick he can to lead the teams to wins (while Ange is being a bullish prick about playing nice football and bs like that which leads to formations not fitting the players he has). For example - loved Syria's mind-games about where they're going to host the home game. If we do get past Syria, I think the CONCACAF game will be harder and I'm not sure if we'd make it to the WC. (Which is so silly because we really should've qualified automatically from that group - Japan were really the only team that should've given us problems, with Saudi and UAE being winnable and Iraq and Thailand blow-outs) --SuperJew (talk) 08:36, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Urgh, that 3-4-3... That's the formation I use on FIFA with 87+ rated defenders, the national team really does require a 4 man defense. I'd be curious to see a game of the current Socceroos first XI vs a match fit XI containing the likes of Jones, Jeggo, Goodwin, Mabil and Ruka. Also, with Ange, he fucked up with the youth national teams (ever seen that convo with Craig Foster?) and he got sacked, yet somehow found his way into the national team set-up again. I dunno, but if we're gonna be taking the chance with a national manager, hell, I'd rather see someone like Kevin Muscat given a shot. Of course, I'd still favour an international option. Guus was definitely the best manager we've had, I feel. - J man708 (talk) 09:04, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I think Ange was doing well at the beginning (until after the Asian Cup). And his vision of playing players who get game-time and rewarding performances instead of prestige was/is great. The problems started after the AC (I think the win got to his head) and he started all his experimenting and selecting players on prestige instead of performances and club game-time. Also, I'm all for experimenting, but it has to A. be in friendlies (not crucial WC qualifiers) and B. admit when it doesn't work out, stop it and go back to what was working the best. A bit hard for me to judge Muscat, as he got most of a brilliant squad handed to him on a platter, and he only had to improve it slightly (Berisha, Valeri, Delpierre & FBK) to win the double, but then the season after was stagnant on the transfers and it showed in the results. Guus was def great, but he also had one of the best Aussie raw talent squads to work with.. it'd be interesting to see what he'd make of the current squad. If I had to choose from the A-League, I think Paul Okon might be an idea for national coach - came in last season to Mariners at the end of transfer season and had a pretty piss poor squad to work with and still managed not to prop up the league (unlike previous years), and so far seems to have some potentially good transfers (Hiariej, Brama, JRose, De Silva, Asdrubal, cutting out the Senegal cousins) --SuperJew (talk) 09:25, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Interesting thoughts. Ange definitely hasn't been able to swallow his pride and admit he has made mistakes in 2017, which could cost us dearly. We lost too many points in WC qualifiers for us to justify their usage. If they needed to be tested in big games, the matches we had against Japan could've been conceded to these plans, as we were probably always going to finish behind Japan in the group. Granted Muscat has had a squad that has been one of (if not the most) technically gifted in the league, but that still doesn't quite add up to the domestic success that MV have had during his time. Paul Okon could be an interesting choice. I can see him being a Kosmina/Arnold style caretaker coach, but maybe not the top job. Josep Gombau could be an outside chance. I can't see people like John Aloisi, Harry Kewell or Tony Popovic with the gig just yet. Going back onto the idea of starting players, I'd like to see an asymmetrical 4-3-3, maybe with a single sided wingback and a defensive midfielder favouring the opposite side, but clearly both being a defender and midfielder respectively first and foremost. I'm full of these ideas, many of which are 100% shit, I assure you. - J man708 (talk) 10:31, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Haha I still feel it's better than Ange's current ideas (or at least the ideas he chooses to use which is one single dumb idea). Popovic I def don't see at national level - he relies way too much on cleaning out his squad and rebuilding from the ground to be able to be a successful national coach. Kewell is still at a level of coaching youth and low-tier clubs (I think he's current is 4th tier in England), but given time see how he develops. Aloisi not too sure about - he was absolute shit at Heart, but seems to have learned lessons from it and is doing not too bad with Roar. --SuperJew (talk) 10:43, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Apparently Lucas Neill is now coaching his kid's cricket team? Or just get someone in who has no idea, maybe from the AFL/NRL? - J man708 (talk) 10:49, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Hahahaha that's great! Might be a small difference between under-9's and seniors though 😅 --SuperJew (talk) 11:10, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Barnstar for you

 * Thank you ! :) --SuperJew (talk) 16:15, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

ICPO
clearly you should invest in a proper-size monitor, as the full text appears on a single line on mine ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 02:06, 15 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I have a 15 inch laptop, which is one of the bigger laptops that people carry around (most of my friends in uni have 13 or 14 inches), so I would say to cater to the majority here, going by my size would be more correct. --SuperJew (talk) 06:16, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * sounds like SuperJewpedia for monitors. Matilda Maniac (talk) 06:25, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Sounds like making the Wikipedia better for the majority of readers instead of only those who invested in large size monitors. --SuperJew (talk) 06:28, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * not everyone has a laptop, and 15" is pretty small for a normal monitor! Matilda Maniac (talk) 08:22, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm just saying that the worldwide trend is towards smaller screens (laptops & mobiles) --SuperJew (talk) 08:57, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you
Okay, I see why I need to stop with the visual editing, because the templates get messed up in visual editing, thank you for letting me know :)

FC (FastCube) — Preceding unsigned comment added by FastCube (talk • contribs) 05:42, 23 October 2017 (UTC)


 * You said this, yet you continue to use it and mess up the templates. Please stop. --SuperJew (talk) 16:47, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Edit on 2017-18 New Zealand Football Championship
Hi again, wondering if you could explain your recent edit on the page, it seems weird to me to count Team Wellington in third place because they have played an extra game. Means their position is inflated for 8 rounds until other teams catch up the game in hand. NZFC (talk) 18:43, 23 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's why I added a note at the bottom to explain it. That's the way I know it's done, as if you look at the league table now Team Wellington is in 3rd place. See here too for example. --SuperJew (talk) 18:49, 23 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Ok I get you, I did read the note but couldn't wrap my head around it. Thanks NZFC  (talk) 20:01, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

I don't get it
Um... I created "2017–18 Melbourne City W-League season". i DID NOT use visual editing and I did the exact same source editing as the other pages (e.g. 2016–17 Melbourne City FC season). And it's... messed up. I really don't know why. FastCube (talk) 11:05, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

"After reading this nevermind, because someone else created it before me and it's perfect, so nevermind FastCube (talk) 11:06, 25 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Hmm I don't see your edit on the page, but Jono created it so seems it's okay.. I'll have a look through now. BTW, when you write on talk pages, please make sure to sign your name with ~ --SuperJew (talk) 11:20, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Invitation to join Women in Red
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It's still messing up the page
Hi SuperJew. So you said that using visual editing messes up the football pages. I tried using the source editing making: 2017–18 Sydney FC W-League season. I did it exactly right and I was sure there is no mistakes there and it is still messed up.

After, I realised that the " and the "  is messing it up, I don't know why. I think I will figure it out soon.

--FastCube — Preceding unsigned comment added by FastCube (talk • contribs) 09:55, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Y·League 2017–18
Likely to be a few errors around times/timezones for this new article.
 * and i think your prose on Canberra United should also be repeated at the parent article, perhaps Here . Matilda Maniac (talk) 15:58, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look.. regarding the parent article, I just copied it from there (I originally added it in :) ). It's under the history section, but maybe it should be somewhere else? (placing stuff is less my strong suit :S) --SuperJew (talk) 16:01, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 * yes, might go in any of about 3 places. Matilda Maniac (talk) 16:06, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Not even this article is helpful?? List of W-League hat-tricks
I know that this info might be on this page: "W-League records and statistics. BUT it's different, because it is the MOST hat-tricks, but this article: List of W-League hat-tricks, it's the list of all W-League hat-tricks, but it does have the most hat-tricks as well, because of this article: List of A-League hat-tricks.

--FastCube 13 November 2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by FastCube (talk • contribs) 06:07, 13 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Who said the article is not helpful? What are you accusing me of? My comments to you are very specific on what you do (editing with the VisualEditor even though told 'multiple times not to, and not updating dates on tables you update).
 * If we are talking about the article in question it is severely lacking in referencing. It should have a reference for every hat-trick, and also a reference concentrating all the hat-tricks scored in the league. --SuperJew (talk) 16:20, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Visual editing
But visual editing doesn't mess up TABLES, so this article, List of W-League hat-tricks does not contain a template.

You said that TEMPLATES mess up the pages in visual editing. Tables is simple in visual mode. But when I create 2017–18 W-League pages (e.g. - yesterday: 2017−18 Melbourne Victory W-League season), I use source editing.

FastCube (talk)


 * I didn't say anything about visual editing on List of W-League hat-tricks. I said it is lacking references (which I've tried to fill some in, but have had enough for today). Stop trying to put words in my mouth or I won't tolerate you on my talk page. --SuperJew (talk) 21:00, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Why no yellow / red cards?
Why shouldn't we add yellow and red cards in the A-League pages, we have to remove them?

The Premier League pages of 2017/18 have yellow and red cards, and not A-League pages. But why not insert them there? Even the older A-League pages do.

I don't see any problem with it, but I will know after your answer. (I'm not trying to be offensive).

FastCube (19 November 2017) — Preceding unsigned comment added by FastCube (talk • contribs) 10:47, 19 November 2017 (UTC)


 * See discussion here for example. --SuperJew (talk) 12:40, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * If you're not satisfied and have a new argument to add, bring it up at WT:FOOTY. --SuperJew (talk) 12:40, 19 November 2017 (UTC)


 * The fact that other pages do something, doesn't necessarily mean it's the correct thing to do. Read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. --SuperJew (talk) 16:41, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for your articles on women Australian rules football players! They are much more detailed than almost every new sports article that I see, and I thank you for your dedication in making these articles. RileyBugz 会話投稿記録 23:58, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the message :D --SuperJew (talk) 17:36, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Meg Hutchins
Okay, point taken. I've clarified a bit as the "correspondence" doesn't sound like it was really a two-way street. Your style in general is sometimes rather journalistic and not easy for someone to follow without knowledge of Australian rules. What does "she said that Collingwood were "outworked" by Carlton with them winning the handballs count" mean? Deb (talk) 22:53, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I suppose that's as I grew up on footy. Handball is one of the two methods of moving the ball around between players (with the other being kicks). Since handballs are shorter range than kicks, a higher count of handballs usually is correlated with more work by that team. --SuperJew (talk) 11:55, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I can imagine it's a way of life in Australia. Please don't read anything into the swiftness or otherwise of my edits. I was just patrolling new articles and I sometimes make minor amendments which I think (at the time) are improvements.Deb (talk) 12:46, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Quite the opposite! I was complimenting you on looking at it so quickly after creation :) --SuperJew (talk) 13:09, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Chapmans
Good afternoon SJ. I noticed you removed the Chapmans from the list of association football families. It is true that none of them were internationals, however the criteria states that notable coaches are to be listed. This would almost certainly include Herbert as criterion one. I would think probably Harry too, given that he managed Hull in the Second Division; he would come under criterion two as well. His son, also called Harry, managed Shrewsbury until 1950, the same year they joined the Football League. Info on him and his two uncles is scarce: only Thomas Chapman has an article, and it is a stub. I would think they should be reinstated, however rather that simply revert you I thought it proper to talk. Malpass93! (what I've been up to/drop me a ___) 15:34, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I see your point.. I missed the managing section. Thank you, will reinstate. --SuperJew (talk) 15:40, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

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Women in Red World Contest
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Proposed deletion of Lauren Brown (footballer)


The article Lauren Brown (footballer) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Fails WP:GNG, played a handful of games with no indication they generated significant non trivial coverage. Can't find any interviews with the player or articles on her wider career."

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 * Yes, this seems a fair call. --SuperJew (talk) 19:16, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Lauren Brown (footballer) for deletion
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Canadian biography
Hi, SuperJew! I saw you wrote a Canadian biography for the WIR Contest. If you'd like, you can also submit this to The 10,000 Challenge of WikiProject Canada. Please use this link for convenience. Thanks for all your work on the contest! – Reidgreg (talk) 11:53, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries ! Thanks :) --SuperJew (talk) 12:04, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

An exceptional barnstar for you
I make it $31.50 that you've won. Please double check. If you would like to donate any of your winnings into the Women in Red Book Fund to raise money to buy books for editors of women topics who need them on demand please add your name and the amount you'd like to donate in the sub section below the prize winners on the main contest page.♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:05, 4 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! And many thanks to you for the fabulous organization and running of the contest! It was a really great motivator to get working on all those articles! (I've been meaning to work on those AFLW players' articles for a while already). How is the money to be passed to me? --SuperJew (talk) 17:40, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Contest Prize
Please email me and state your user name, email address and how much I owe you in your preferred currency.♦  Dr. Blofeld  17:01, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Sent you! Thanks :) --SuperJew (talk) 19:41, 16 December 2017 (UTC)