User talk:Super Cyclonic Storm Corona/Archive/2020

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Hi I like hurricanes! Now I have a question for you. Shouldn't there be a Hurricane Epsilon article (2020)? I mean it was a major hurricane, and it was a record breaker. HurricaneGeek (talk) 21:26, 16 November 2020 (UTC) HurricaneGeek
 * Yeah, I would agree with your comment, though in the talk page archives of the 2020 Atlantic hurricane season, there was a debate of whether or not to create the article. Most opposed this, saying that the impacts were only minimal and it did not deserve one. I would advise not trying to make it, as editors will probably try to stop you, and delete it (which is a big pile of work down the drain). I like  hurricanes  21:30, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Oh ok HurricaneGeek (talk) 00:38, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes! I joined the tropical cyclone project! HurricaneGeek (talk) 00:43, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, as I'm here, I might as well do this:

I like hurricanes  01:59, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Please fix your signature.
Your signature includes an unclosed  tag that causes the rest of the article to follow the font of your user talk page link. Please fix this to avoid massively changing talk pages. Thanks! Chlod (say hi!) 14:57, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, but on which talk page? HurricaneGeek
 * Hi there, HurricaneGeek. You can fix your signature by applying an end tag to your signature. If you want to have an italicized Times New Roman font for the "talk" portion of your user signature, just copy the following code into your user preferences and save the changes (you can copy this directly from the screen, without entering the editing window):
 * Hope this helps! Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 20:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * But which talk page? 🌀 Hurr icane Geek 🌀 {talk} 18:40, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This one. And probably some other talk pages that you were on before that. But I think that other users helped fix the formatting issues with your signature on those pages. And since you've changed your signature's code, it probably doesn't matter anymore.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 08:50, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks!🌀 Hurr icane Geek 🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 13:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks!🌀 Hurr icane Geek 🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 13:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Ok HurricaneGeek (talk) 11:57, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Area of interest on Wikipedia
Hey there! I saw you've been making lots of edits to tropical cyclone articles. I just wanted to check, what area of tropical cyclones are you most interested in? There are tons of articles that need help, both new and old, and around the world, as well as more general topics. We have a lot of members of the WPTC, but a lot of users tend to stop writing about tropical cyclones when the season ends. I just wanted to reach out and see, maybe, if there's anything you're planning on working on, and if so, if you need any assistance. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:45, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi! I am interested in famous tropical cyclones, and I am planning to make an article starting the next month or so. 🌀 ♄☋☈☈ ♗☾ꍏ♫€' ❡€€ϰ 🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 14:44, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Right on! There are plenty of notable cyclones, and we have a list of the most vital articles. Are you planning on jumping right into a big storm? Or are you looking to write an article from scratch? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 15:12, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll probably jump to a big storm. 🌀 ♄☋☈☈ ♗☾ꍏ♫€' ❡€€ϰ 🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 15:33, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Awesome! A few editors have discussed getting Hurricane Irene (which I see you experienced) to featured article status by its 10 year anniversary next year. The article is incomplete at the moment, and for such a big storm, it's best to focus at one area at a time. For example, there are sub-articles for Irene's effects in New Jersey and New York. Or, you could focus on one particular area affected by the storm. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:24, 9 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Great, thanks! 🌀 ♄☋☈☈ ♗☾ꍏ♫€' ❡€€ϰ 🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 17:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * What should I do in the article? 🌀 ❡ €€ ϰ  🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 19:12, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Which one are you interested in? Writing is easiest when I find a topic I really wanna get invested in. So if you're not feeling any of my suggestions, that's fine. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:13, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Which article did you want to do? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:27, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Any notable one that hasn't been evaluated that well. 🌀 ❡ €€ ϰ  🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 20:37, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * What about something like Hurricane Stan, which is only start-class? Either that or Hurricane Dennis, also from 2005, but has the advantage of having several sub-articles (some of which are already good articles). The main thing missing is Cuban impact. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:27, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, will do! 🌀 ❡ €€ ϰ  🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 10:55 Wednesday, December 9, 2020

Just checking, related to the discussion below, did you copy content and paste it directly into Wikipedia? That's not allowed, unfortunately. Be sure to write everything on Wikipedia in your own words, and be sure to provide a reliable source. If you have any questions on that, I can help. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:18, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was having trouble paraphrasing the following text:

After striking Cuba on July 8, 2005, Hurricane Dennis had lost strength from passing over land. However in the Gulf of Mexico, it recovered and strengthened into a powerful Category 4 storm once again during the early morning hours of July 9th, with maximum sustained winds back up to 125 knots (144 mph). 🌀 ❡ €€ ϰ  🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 16:51, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * So it looks like you were trying to summarize the met history in the middle of the rest of the met history. Be sure to read the entire paragraph to keep a sense of the flow. The storm struck Cuba twice before entering the GoM, but you kinda glossed over that. The part about Cuba that's needed is impact and aftermath, which can be found at a variety of websites. For the storm causing over $1 billion in damage, there's very little info on it. Also, one quick note: the WPTC doesn't use knots in writing. We convert to mph and km/h, because that's what the public knows. Let me ask first - do you need help in adding/editing articles? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:58, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The two articles that I am pulling information from is this and this 🌀 ❡ €€ ϰ  🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 18:06, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Good, I'm glad you have sources. When you're writing impact sections, it's best to start with the meteorological impacts (peak winds/gusts/rainfall/tornadoes/storm surge), then get into the physical impacts (number of houses damaged/destroyed, crop damage, other infrastructure damage). Are you trying to add info to the impact section, preps, or aftermath? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:14, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Impact. 🌀 ❡ €€ ϰ  🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 18:17, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. Do you know what needs to be done, or do you need any assistance? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:18, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, how do you exactly cite sources? 🌀 ❡ €€ ϰ  🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 18:20, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

The most basic way is adding before and after the url. If you're looking to improve an article to good article status, you'll have to be more specific with the refs, by adding inside of the tags. Some sources won't have a specific author's name, so that's fine if it's skipped. Likewise, if you only have the year, you can put |year=2020 instead of |date=XXXX. The publisher should be whatever is the parent agency, like the National Hurricane Center. In the case of ReliefWeb, that isn't really the publisher, since the website compiles reports from different agencies. In that case, you would use |at=ReliefWeb, instead of |publisher=. Also, if it's a news article, you would indicate |agency=Associated Press (or some other publication), as well as |newspaper=The New York Times, for example. It's a lot to do sourcing properly, so if at first you just want to do the basic references, that's fine, you can always improve them later on. The more important thing is adding the content to the article and identifying the source. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:31, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! 🌀 ❡ €€ ϰ  🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 18:33, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Should I enter the following text in the article? The hurricane caused 16 deaths in Cuba, the most of any storm since Hurricane Flora in 1963, which caused over 1,100 deaths and prompted a complete restructuring of Cuba's emergency preparedness systems, which now rank among the best in the developing world. Over 1.5 million Cubans were evacuated in advance of the storm, along with nearly 17,000 tourists. Initial estimates of economic damage from Hurricane Dennis are over $1.4 billion, although in a televised speech and program on July 11 and 12 Fidel Castro indicated that had the storm struck the city of Havana directly, the damage could have exceeded $3 billion. Storm assessment and recovery efforts have been hampered by severe damage to electrical and communications services across the island from Hurricane Dennis. These include the destruction of over 1,000 electrical power poles, 28 radio and communication relay towers, 4 television towers, and 39 high voltage electric towers by the storm's ferocious winds. Initial reports indicated that more than 120,000 homes were damaged by the storm, 15,000 of which collapsed; 24,000 of which had their roofs blown off; 60,000 of which had partial roof damage; and 25,000 of which had other damage. Over 73,000 Cuban people were reported to be homeless and nearly 160,000 did not have adequate shelter as a result of damages caused by the storm. Also reported was significant damage to schools, stores, and factories throughout the island along with 160 health facilities, including clinics, hospitals, and physicians’ offices. Cuba's official newspaper Granma reported on July 12 that 2.5 million people (over 20 percent of the Cuban population) were without running water due to damage to water distribution systems, contamination of water supplies, and/or the lack of electrical power to run water pumps. The affected areas were reportedly being served by water tankers until their systems could be repaired, cleaned, or otherwise back in service. 🌀 ❡ €€ ϰ  🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 18:46, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * So there's a few issues. First, your paragraph has preparations, impact, and aftermath. You need to make sure that any preparations (such as evacuations) go into the preparations section, then actual impacts go in the impact section, and any aftermath (such as repairs/restoration of service) go in aftermath. Another problem is that the link doesn't work. Are you sure that's a working url? And lastly, there already is information about Cuba in the article. Don't just delete existing information in favor of adding your own - try and integrate your text and add anything that's missing. Lastly, you don't need to add stuff like "Cuba's official newspaper Granma reported on July 12". We will know who reports it from the reference. The article should describe the storm and its impacts, and not about who's describing the storm/impacts. For instance, we have a good damage total, so we don't need to report what the late Fidel Castro said might've been the damage total, or an initial damage total. Does that make sense? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:52, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I copyed and pasted the URL, should work. 🌀 ❡ €€ ϰ  🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 18:54, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It says "service unavailable". Where did you find that source from? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:58, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The link works for me. It opens the PDF. 🌀 ❡ €€ ϰ  🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 19:05, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why that link wasn't working for me, but I found this url that also works - ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk )  19:12, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * That's the same PDF!.🌀 ❡ €€ ϰ  🌀{talk ⋅ contribs}} 19:24, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Thank you! 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 19:06, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Archives found and put where they belong
Your user talk archives were saved to User talk:HerricaneGeek/Archive 1 a few days ago. Because of the mis-spelling they were not moved when your account was renamed. I moved the page to without leaving a redirect. I then moved it to User talk:Cyclone Corona/Archive 1, leaving a redirect behind. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs) 🎄  19:31, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for letting me know! 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 19:45, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones in India
Hey there, thanks for working on the list. I see you took my suggestion at making them go one by one. Check out other lists, such as List of Florida hurricanes (2000-present). You should have a short 1-4 sentence description, depending how impactful the storm was, but don't include irrelevant info. Also be sure to cite everything. The 2001 India cyclone should be listed as something like:


 * May 29 - a cyclonic storm struck Gujarat, days after weakening from its peak as an extremely severe cyclonic storm. It killed between 120–900 fishermen offshore. Along the coast, the storm produced high waves that destroyed 200 homes.

Does that make sense? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 22:25, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No need for it too look like that. If your looking for examples, look at List of Georgia hurricanes, or List of Florida hurricanes (2000–present), as Hink said. Only a paragraph and a couple sentences are needed, not much more, as Hink said. Just follow his suggestions, and you will be successful in making a paragraph for a storm. Stay safe, Cyclone   Toby  01:33, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks guys! 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 15:44, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * and Can you help me finish this: Draft:Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm BOB 05? Thanks, 🌀  ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 18:30, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the cupcake! The article looks decent so far. Could you remind me in a week or so? This week I'm busy traveling and doing holiday celebrations, but I should have a lot more time for wikiing after the 30th. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:01, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It’s been created! 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀  17:37, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Topicons
Some "top icons" on user pages should only be used by people to whom they apply.

For example, as far as I can tell, you do not have the "page mover" user-right. I say "as far as I can tell" because if you were just granted it a few seconds before I checked, I may be looking at out-of-date information.

Please review the items on your user page and remove those that suggest you belong to certain groups that you don't belong to, at least not yet.

Thanks. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs) 🎄  19:24, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I actually do have page mover rights, give me any page that needs to be moved, and I can do it. 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 16:24, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I think I see the confusion. Auto-confirmed editors can move pages, but this is not the same as the WP:Page mover user-right.  When I click on "verify" on the "page mover" userbox on your user page, your name does not show up.  For that matter, it doesn't show up when I click "verify" in the extended-confirmed userbox either.  According to this you don't have either user-right yet.  According to this you are less than 30 edits away from receiving the extended confirmed user-right that comes with 500 edits and a 30-day-old account, so there's probably no point in "removing" that userbox and that topicon since you should have that user-right within a day or two.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs) 🎄  17:23, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok, thanks for letting me know! 🌀  ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 17:38, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for fixing it. I noticed that your user talk page topicon list says you are not an administrator but you have administrative rights on the English Wikipedia.  Are you a quantum user?  Well, maybe I can collapse your quantum state by making an observation.  There, now I know you are not an administrator, but I have no idea how fast you are moving toward or away from wielding the mop.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs) 🎄  02:00, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry. I copied and pasted the talk header from Hurricanehink. I didn't realize that I copied the topicon too. Sorry again! 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 13:59, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Please also remove the autopatrolled topicon, as you are quite definitely not autopatrolled. — Yours, Berrely  (🎅 Ho ho ho! 🎄) • Talk∕Contribs 17:49, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Done! 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀  17:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, and you are now extendedconfirmed. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs) 🎄  18:54, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Whaled
You have been whaled for: The Draft: Effects of Hurricane Andrew in Louisiana is talking about the storm just in Louisiana, where it was weaker, and not in the storm as a whole. HurricaneTracker495 18:45, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Darn! Thanks for letting me know. 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 19:31, 21 December 2020 (UTC)~

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Thanks again, and happy editing!  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  04:22, 24 December 2020 (UTC) I hope you succeed in your exams!  SMB9 9thx   my edits!  05:54, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yay! Thanks, I'm gonna need that luck. 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 15:43, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft: Effects of Hurricane Eta in Nicaragua
I highly recommend requesting deletion pe WP: G7 or letting it rot and be deleted per WP: G13. The reasons are You can redirect if you want or continue working on it, but I cannot see it being accepted by AFC. Sorry to put it so harshly, but I can't see it succeeding.
 * 1) There is an article for it in Honduras, and it got merged(not even draftified!)per WP: CFORK. Like, 3 paragraphs total
 * 2) 2 deaths and $179 million isn't enough in today's world
 * 3) No other article has one for Nicaragua
 * 4) It is only 32 kB of prose.

Best luck, --Hurricane Tracker 495 23:51, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter how many people it killed or how much damage it caused, really (see Effects of Hurricane Charley in South Carolina and Effects of Hurricane Charley in North Carolina). Honestly, as long as it's not all completely copy and pasted, and the main article is a little bloated, then I think it's okay. Merry Christmas, Cyclone   Toby  13:17, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * That used to be true(Effects of Hurricane Floyd in Florida), but not so much anymore(although that did $50 million). It's because now we've tightened up. We just aren't murdering those articles that survived. Hurricane Eta's prose size is ~32 kB as I said(remember, 1024 bytes is a kilobyte, not just 1000), and it's gonna be a WP: CFORK vio. Same reasons the Honduras one was merged. --Hurricane Tracker 495 13:21, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!




 Cyclone Corona , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours!  HurricaneEdgar    17:16, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * – Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.
 * Thanks! You too! 🌀 ☾⊙ ☈⊙ ♫ꍏ  🌀 21:56, 31 December 2020 (UTC)