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Rangers F.C.
Just to let you know, I created a new section at the Rangers F.C. Talk page for your proposal about the lead section. It was relatively unrelated to the section you posted under and I thought it would generate more discussion in its own section. Cheers for helping improve the article, Vanguard  Scot  22:24, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Football image
Hi there. Please see File talk:Football4.png.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 00:30, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Winter Olympics (disambiguation)
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I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Winter Olympics (disambiguation) should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Winter Olympics (disambiguation).

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Thanks, Zzyzx11 (talk) 17:26, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

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Progression of association football caps record
Do not delete encylopedic information. If you think it is in the wrong place, move it. I have moved the European record to Progression of association football caps European record. jnestorius(talk) 13:14, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

April 2015 Mediterranean Sea migrant shipwrecks
Add Rhodes!!!!!!!!Roberto73c (talk) 14:00, 20 April 2015 (UTC) Put in this page 2015 Mediterranean Sea migrant shipwreck is a principal page!!! Add new recent shipwreck........only one page.Roberto73c (talk) 14:07, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Considers that even today there are dramas in place, I encourage you to not put the month before the title of the article. one page for all the dramatic events. This is a serious humanitarian emergency.Roberto73c (talk) 14:16, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Patrol this article, I have no time now to add informations, thanks for your contributions.Roberto73c (talk) 14:23, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

GE
Hi, I had to revert - Look at Alakzi's edit and you'll see why, Thanks.... – Davey 2010 Talk 15:17, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

List of European stadiums by capacity
Hi there. Since you obviously have an interest in the subject matter (i.e., football stadia) and a feel for what's involved, perhaps you would care to help me out in revamping this article. IMHO, by previously stating (meaning previously to my starting my edits there and rewriting the lead-in text) that temporary seating was not to be included in the stated capacities of stadia, the article pretty well made itself redundant and out-of-date in most reader's minds before they ever started to read any further. Because most modern stadia worth their salt employ some form of movable and/or retractable seating, so such an article must be able to embrace and deftly cope with these modern concepts, and not simply brush them under the carpet and ignore them as if they were irrelevant, or didn't even exist, with an up-front caveat that classified reconfigurable seating as being merely "temporary" and thus not pertinent. Multiple uses of stadia can no longer be ignored in such an out-of-sight-out-of-mind manner.

Not that such a caveat has stopped folk over the years from entering the largest capacity numbers regardless for certain of the multi-use / multi-sized stadia. But since there is currently no means of indicating in that article (or at least there wasn't before my latest round of editing) what a stadium's stated capacity number represents, the fact that some of the stated capacities include reconfigurable seating in them while others don't now merely serves to beg the question. Does the XYZ Stadium entry I'm looking at support some sort of reconfigurable (= movable or retractable) option, and if so, is it reflected in the 70,512 capacity figure I've just read? To my mind, without the pertinent context for what the capacity number actually represents also being clearly defined, the stated number is rendered somewhat meaningless. It's analogous to stating how long a piece of string is. Cue Spinal Tap: this stadium goes to 11,000 ... :(

It's one thing to compare apples to apples and produce a sorted list of apples ordered on size, which is what this list purports to similarly do for European stadia (with a few thrown in from Russia, Israel, Turkey and Armenia for good measure - God bless Henry VIII). But it is another thing entirely to compare apples to oranges and then use the results to produce a sorted list of mixed fruit ordered on criteria that only apply to apples. Which is really what this list actually does (even if unintentionally) - with the multi-sport and safe standing venues being the metaphorical oranges. Need I point out that producing a sorted list of anything based on some key piece of data (in this case, capacity), when it is totally unclear to the reader what that key piece of data actually represents, is a totally meaningless and fruitless waste of time - nothing more than an exercise in fruitility! (puns very much intended, I suppose).

Anyway, that's the issue I was trying to solve with my recent editing efforts, but I fear that once again I might have bitten off more than I can chew. I've certainly bitten off more than I WANT to chew, and just like with my edits on the list of English football stadia, I'm now beginning to wish I had never started! Maybe with more than one brain working on the problem the exercise I have begun might be more easily completed. IMO it's a problem that still needs to be solved whether it is me or anyone else that solves it, and it is not confined to just this particular list. It applies to all such lists of large sporting venues, including the list of English football stadia - and it is especially pertinent if the current ground roots pressure to introduce safe standing into English football reaches the same point as it already has in Scottish football (which seems very likely).

Regardless of how the safe standing issue politically pans out, WHU's move to the Olympic Stadium in 2016 will introduces the first multi-use stadium into the Premier League, thus making the English Wikipedia's current inability to properly handle movable seating alternatives in such "ordered on capacity" situations very apparent to many more Wikipedia users than it currently is today. So if you would do me the courtesy of taking a gander at the said article and letting me know your thoughts I would very much appreciate it. Thanks. 66.16.144.18 (talk) 06:04, 22 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Will have a look at this User:66.16.144.18, though may be on a timescale of a few days to a week! --Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 10:49, 22 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I understand. It is because I have my own restrictions on available time that I am seeking some help.  But this is a two stage process IMO.  First, I just want your feedback and opinion - no editing effort necessary.  Obviously you'll have to spend some time reading prior edits and delving around a bit, etc.  Mostly, I'm looking for someone to bounce some ideas off and have them say, "Yeah, I agree that needs fixing / enhancing" or "No way, I wouldn't touch that with a bargepole; you'll just get everybody bent out of shape if you try and do that."  That sort of thing.
 * There is more wrong with the table than just its prior inability to cope with reconfigurable seating. Here is a quick list of issues (off the top of my head) for you to consider when you do put some time in - I might add to it later if I think of any others ...
 * The first and main issue is, of course, the moveable / retractable seating one. I think I have that theoretically solved between my updates to the lead-in text and the 3 main example stadia I chose to do as a template for others to copy - (1) Dortmund's Signal Iduna Park (single sport use, retractable seating only); (2) Stade de France (multi-sport use, moveable seating only); and (3) Schalke's Veltins-Arena (multi-sport use, multiple forms of retractable seating plus movable seating). I think that covers all the options. To my mind all stadia will fall into one of those 3 categories or the default fourth one - (4) most traditional stadia (single sport use, fixed seating only - plus fixed standing outside the top 2 tiers in English football). But it is that sort of assumption I want you to try and throw rocks at. I don't want to get 75% of the way through updating the table to suddenly discover that there are really five, or even six options, and that a total rethink is required - not to mention edit reversions!
 * Things to consider about what I've done already ...
 * (a) Is my approach too complicated; am I expecting too much from other editors to create the sort of notes that I have done?
 * (b) Is my terminology confusing? Some forms of "retractable seating" move (e.g., fold-away seats) while most forms of what I'm calling "movable seating" retract in some way (e.g., the bottom tier of seats at the Stade de France retracts under the second tier to reveal the running track). Can you think of better, clearer terminology?
 * (c) To my mind, "moveable seating" is deployed over some part of the arena's largest playing area to bring the spectators closer to the action of one of the supported multi-sports. When deployed, it increases capacity because it simply adds more seats to the existing base of fixed seats in the stands. In contrast, "retractable seating" plays around with the numbers of spectators that can be squeezed into traditional stand space.  When deployed, it normally decreases capacity because it assigns available standing space to less dense seating. Or am I missing something?  That's something else I would like you to think about and try and find fault with.
 * Other problems with the table ...
 * (d) There needs to be an upfront definition (i.e., in the lead text before the table) of which competitions, IF ANY, are worthy of being added to the "Tenant" column. In fact, there is the problem right there. "Tenant" is NOT the same as "Venue" or "Event"! That column was only ever intended by the article's original author(s) to contain the names of the various sport teams that called that stadium their home ground. In the case of multi-sport and ground share stadia that list could run to 4 or 5 names. But somebody along the way probably entered something along the lines of "1996 Olympics team" as the home athletics team based in a national athletics stadium and then natural tribal football competition kicked in. Many editors edit in a monkey-see, monkey-do fashion and just copy other things they see have been done without even thinking whether what they are copying and propagating makes any sense - such as adding competition events and venues in a column labeled "Tenant".
 * So rather than see that entry as a home team designation some later editor saw it as an event designation ... and well, if the athletics stadia are going to boast about Olympics events staged there, then I should add that a FIFA World Cup was staged at the stadium I'm updating. Then someone else took it to the next level ... if we are going to mention FIFA World Cups we should also mention FIFA Confederation Cups ... and why stop at FIFA international events, surely UEFA Euros are pretty major too ... and then UEFA CL and EL cup finals started to be added ... and then domestic cup finals (I just removed "venue for the finals of the KNVB Beker" from the entry for the De Kuip stadium after it had triggered the same instinct in me and I was about to update Wembley with a list of all the domestic rugby league, rugby union and soccer cup finals it normally hosts on an annual basis, which on top of past Olympics, rugby union, rugby league and soccer WCs, Euros, Tri-Nations, Five/Six Nations, Champions League and UEFA Cup finals, etc. tournaments would have made it nearly a 10-line entry!) and even events yet to be staged in the future such as the 2015 Rugby World Cup, 2017 Confederations Cup and 2018 World Cup in Russia.
 * (e) So that free-form "Tenant" field now contains all sorts of info. that has absolutely nothing to do with the current stadium "tenants". I have just complicated this situation a whole lot more by using that same column to hold my movable / retractable seating designation, but at least that info. is pertinent to defining the stadium's true capacity so that its various components can be better understood, but more importantly, so that its entry can be correctly sorted in the table list. All that event/venue info. is more about chauvinistic one-upmanship between the various sporting interests / national backgrounds of the editors. It's all very interesting stuff but it really all belongs in a separate article in a much more codified / less busy format. So there's something else for you to consider and give me your feedback on.
 * (f) The table is not meant to be sport- nor nationality-specific ... it is merely meant to be a list of the largest European stadia ordered on capacity, regardless of what goes on there. With the 25,000 threshold cut-off it tends to eliminate certain pretty popular spectator sports such as tennis (Wimbledon's Centre Court is ~15,000, I believe, and that must be one of the biggest tennis stadia in the world). That's not a bias based on sport, it's just a consequence of how much bigger the venues of all the other sports represented in the listed stadia are compared to tennis. Nevertheless, despite this natural bias in its favour, the table still appears to have been taken over by soccer interests. Most of the event/venue info. entered is soccer related (rather than rugby, cricket or athletics oriented), and the final "Category" column is purely soccer specific. If it were kept as a truly multi-sport embracing table then we might need a "Category" column for each sport represented. And imagine what would happen to the table if people with cricket, hurling and camogie interests started listing all the important events of their sport in the "Tenant" column of the relevant stadia!  So there is a strong argument for creating two versions of this article - one for purely soccer, and one for everything else. That's something else for you to ponder before getting back to me.
 * P.S. Do you have any idea why my IP moniker shows up red in your post? And, when you reply here, could you please ping me in your response so that I'm notified and don't have to keep checking back, Thanks. 66.16.144.18 (talk) 02:17, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Barrow-in-Furness
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Barrow-in-Furness
Hi, I appreciate your work on the Barrow-in-Furness article and nominating it towards 'Good Article' status, however the changes made to the opening paragraphs were extreme and disorganised. Having contributed significantly to the article since 2006 I was surprised to find the opening paragraphs virtually unrecognisable, besides from the fact they had copied and pasted sentences from elsewhere in the article that I myself wrote. I do not believe such detailed history or nicknames are relevant in an opening paragraph when they are included within the section immediately following. If you feel the need to make such drastic changes again I would like to be informed. Thank you Stevvvv4444 (talk) 21:41, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Barrow-in-Furness
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FA WSL 1
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Hat-trick nominations
You need to put a notice of the afd discussion on all the affected articles. I don't yet see one on most of the league articles affected. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 09:23, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks J, you're correct that I missed two of them. --Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 10:24, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

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Table positions
Hi, there is currently a discussion that might be of interest to you at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football, since you have been updating such articles.

Basically it is if we should display teams on same position if they have the same points and tiebreakers, during the tournament and before. For example

Alternative 1: 1) CHI 2) COL; 3) ECU, 4) URU, 5) PAR; 6) VEN; 7) ARG, 8) BOL; 9) BRA; 10) PER. Alternative 2: 1) CHI 1) COL; 1) ECU, 1) URU, 5) PAR; 6) VEN; 7) ARG, 7) BOL; 7) BRA; 7) PER.

The exampel is for Template:2018 FIFA World Cup qualification – CONMEBOL table where 4 of the teams won 2-0 and they have exact same tiebreaker.

So should they all be listed at same position and should we list all teams at same position before any match is played? Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football. Qed237&#160;(talk) 13:07, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Well thank you very much for taking the time to do this ! Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 09:31, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

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Requesting closure of RfC
Would appreciated it if you request closure for List of state leaders RfC at a time of your choosing. Thank you. Spirit Ethanol (talk) 18:58, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
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Re. Olympic Stadium
Thank you for the changes made it is much clearer. If you think it is relevant to have a dedicated sub section for accessibility, you can find intel on www.london-stadium.com

I agree for the stadium name, unfortunately we cannot use the word Olympic without paying fees to the IOC. Anyway the stadium should have a new name with a naming rights partner to be selected. Do you have recommendations on how to manage this: should we create a separate page like New Wembley did, or should we change the name of the stadium in the header?

Re. the name of the stadium operator 1) the actual operator is London Stadium 185 ltd a fully owned subsidiary of VINCI Concessions. Could we amend the name accordingly? http://www.vinci-concessions.com/en/what-we-do/stadiums/ 2) Re. adding a link like it is the case for West Ham, could we use http://www.vinci-concessions.com/en/what-we-do/stadiums/

Thank you Best Etienne EtienneSoumoy (talk) 07:38, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Independent Olympic Athletes
I'm not sure contesting the CSD is the right procedure, but the Kuwait article should be moved to IOA since they are competing as such due to the suspension of the NOC. Smartyllama (talk) 23:25, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Nevermind, just read the full notice. Smartyllama (talk) 23:27, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Hereford season AfD
I promised not to comment on it again, but yet another debate has been closed as delete, so you may want to add that for further weight. Cheers, Number   5  7  19:24, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Welcome
Thanks for your message and advice. Really helpful. I'm very conscious of trying to adhere to the CIPR's advice about making contributions to Wikipedia and respecting community rules. I think both my contributions so far have done that although I was really torn on the second one. Following your advice I'll use the talk section next time for something that length. Thanks once again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by John Ben Hall (talk • contribs) 15:51, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Leicester City European Record
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RFC Reference Table
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Talkback
There are some serious copyright violations in this article, but its "bones" seem generally good. It would be great if it could be improved to GA-status. Shearonink (talk) 23:18, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Redirection of list of state leaders in 2016 and list of state leaders in 2017 to list of state leaders in the 21st century
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Talkback
Thanks for cleaning up the previous issues. I've done some further reviewing. Shearonink (talk) 04:17, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment
Would you please please begin a WP:Requests for comment regarding Merge into List of state leaders in the 21st century? tahc chat 17:59, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Talkback
Everything else looks fine except the linking within the Opinion polls tables (Section 8). Shearonink (talk) 14:56, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

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