User talk:SuperblySpiffingPerson

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March 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, but at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Al-Fatiha, did not appear to be constructive and has been automatically reverted (undone) by ClueBot NG.
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 * The following is the log entry regarding this warning: Al-Fatiha was changed by SuperblySpiffingPerson (u) (t) ANN scored at 0.890472 on 2011-03-20T06:11:59+00:00 . Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 06:12, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edits and 'Neutral Point of View' in Wikipedia
On the '2011 Libyan uprising' article, it appears you are editing in such a way to push a point of view, as well as editing article names and naming conventions, specifically naming it 2011 Libyan Civil War, despite there being a discussion under way on the Talk page of that article, and consensus not yet declared. In looking over other edits you are making, these seem to be focused toward a common goal that, in this editor's opinion, is biased toward a pro-Western viewpoint. From what I can tell, the articles related to this subject are already suffering from a large degree of bias and jingoism, and I would take this opportunity to refer you to the following guidelines for Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV_dispute#POV_pushing

Thanks. -- Avanu (talk) 11:42, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The consensus of the naming discussions is that it's civil war, not otherwise. There's WP:UNDUE focus and mentioning of one Jamahiriya spokesperson throughout the article. Treating those to thing's I can't relate to 'pro-Westernism'. If I wanted to make it 'pro-Western' I'd make it as though the issue was all about one man. Rather it's about a multiplicity of tribes and a great many thousands of people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SuperblySpiffingPerson (talk • contribs) 12:01, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * There is no declared consensus yet. News reports also are split on the name of this.  Regardless of the viewpoint that you have on this Jamahiriya, it is not a common name, and you are providing little to no sourcing for these changes, you are making wholesale moves and edits to articles without so much as a 'how do you do' in an effort to educate editors or gain consensus. You may be right in referring to things as Jamahiriya, but it is hard to see if you are making any effort to present a rationale for these wholesale changes. -- Avanu (talk) 12:06, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Please stop changing the article title until a consensus has been reached. If you continue to do so before a consensus has been reached, such edits can be considered disruptive and you may be blocked from editing. Thank you. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:51, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

You've been reported for edit warring
Please see WP:AN3. You may respond there if you wish. EdJohnston (talk) 15:46, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Minor edits
"A check to the minor edit box signifies that only superficial differences exist between the current and previous versions. Examples include typographical corrections, formatting and presentational changes, rearrangement of text without modification of content, etc. A minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. " You are making substantive changes, including controversial ones, and marking them minor. Please stop. Dougweller (talk) 21:22, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I put them as minor edits so they don't show up on my own watchlist. Is there another way to effect the same purpose.?


 * "Hide my own edits" Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 00:34, 24 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't you notice that when you check your watchlist, your own edits show up unless they are marked as minor. So to avoid the superfluity of informing myself of what I already know I have bias to recording changes as minor, especially those where there purpose is terminology clarification which is a large part of what I've purposed to improve on this database. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)
 * No, I am saying there is an option on your watchlist on the far right of all the hide options called "Hide my Edits". Please click hide to accomplish your goal. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 19:46, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Libyan Jamahiriya National Transitional Council
Please can you explain how you can justify this change of name to the article? If not, then please revert it to its former name, or I will consider this an act of vandalism. Thnak you. Lynbarn (talk) 23:52, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

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 * There's another article called Transitional National Government which refers to an entirely different country. Name change to refer to Libya further distinguishes it. The NTC is an organ of the Libyan Republic, which is to be distinguished from its opponent the Libyan ARAB Republic. Libyan Republic NTC is a fair and justified and preferred name for it. It informs the reader WHERE the the NTC arises from and WHAT participant in the Libyan Civil War is pulling its strings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)

March 2011
Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at 2011 Libyan uprising. Your edits have been reverted or removed. Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in you being blocked from editing.--Labattblueboy (talk) 00:36, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
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Please do not move a page to a title that is harder to follow or move it unilaterally against naming conventions or consensus, as you did to National Transitional Council. This includes making page moves while a discussion remains under way. We have some guidelines to help with deciding what title is best for a subject. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the test Wikipedia. Thank you.--Labattblueboy (talk) 00:40, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Please talk about your changes on the 2011 Libyan Uprising Talk page
Hi, as your edits on the subject of the uprising appear to be controversial, would you mind maybe discussing them on 2011_Libyan_uprising? Remember Wiki is a team effort, not just the work of one editor. Thanks! Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 00:37, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * A mistake has been made below which prevents me from doing so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)
 * You're the one who made the mistake. Everyone had been telling you to slow down, lay off and discuss your changes. You didn't listen, and kept causing messes for others. This is what happens.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:36, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The block was not a mistake, it is a penalty for not waiting up and talking things through with others. As I said, it's a team effort. It's chill and encouraged to be WP:BOLD, but there is a limit and a point at which it goes from helpful to selfish. You unfortunately crossed that line and kept going after multiple requests and then warnings not to. Discuss things on the talk page when you are unbanned. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 17:02, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit warring on various articles
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. You have been renaming things without consensus. On 23 March you made eight article moves. The complete report of this case is at WP:AN3. EdJohnston (talk) 00:40, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

2011 Libyan uprising
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at 2011 Libyan uprising, you may be blocked from editing. regards, Lynbarn (talk) 11:00, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Be specific when you make an allegation such as that. I am not the only party making compromise suggestions to how the war participants and the war itself should be referred to. We need middle ground terminology which raises the awareness of both Gaddafi and Jalil in creating the mess and which mollifies the camp of the rearguard 'uprising'-termers equally as those who confront the actual truth, which is that it's a civil war — Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)

If you continue vandalism such as - with delierately misleading edit summary too - you'll be blocked again soon enough William M. Connolley (talk) 19:28, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Adding new material is supplying additional. That wasn't done in what you've cited — Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)

This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at 2011 Libyan uprising, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. noclador (talk) 23:18, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello SuperblySpiffing. Since you persist in reverting names to your own preference, against the wishes of everyone else, it is likely that you will receive a longer block. Please reflect whether this is the best way you can contribute here. Your changes are all being reverted by others. Ask for advice if you would like to fix that. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 00:13, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

You have been blocked temporarily from editing for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

I have blocked your account for 1 week for continuing edits   which resulted in your previous block. Please do try to be constructive and avoid edit warring, as the next block will like be indefinite. 02:05, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Gaining Consensus in Wikipedia for changing articles
I am going to try and help you by explaining the reasons that people are having issues with your editing, and what you can do to make this work.

At first, I thought it was enough to explain my edits in the little "edit summary" box. I made an edit, gave my good reasons, and I assumed that that was enough. Or I would even take the time to explain more on the Talk page. "Enough said, right?" But I was mistaken. The problem that I didn't recognize right at first was this thing called "consensus". If you have consensus, and you "edit war" as Wikipedians call it, then you (might) get a pass because you are protecting consensus. (in reality, you just have to avoid edit warring all the time if you can)

The problem is that articles in Wikipedia could very quickly get into a loop of "view 1" - "view 2" if they allowed it. So how do you stop it? Well, consensus means that enough people (or even 1 with a great argument) discuss and agree that a certain approach is the best approach. Sometimes a discussion on consensus doesn't reach an agreement. So people all just wait. Maybe they start a new discussion and see if anyone has come up with a new idea or reason. But the point is, when you know it will begin an 'edit war', a loop of view #1, view #2, etc, then you stop editing, and you start a discussion on the Talk page and you ask for consensus. Usually people leave the article at the least contentious version for a while, but it could be left with whatever viewpoint prevailed at the time the discussion began.

While it is being discussed, other editors understand that they have to leave it alone, for the most part. But since facts change, the consensus can change also. What is good one day, might not be the next day. But the point is, you wait, and you wait.

I worked on the Taco Bell article recently. TB got sued because the lawyers say the meat isn't good enough. I was going to add a mention of the lawsuit to the article. Another editor disagreed. So we took it to the Talk page, with my edit gone from the page. We have been discussing it for over a month now.

What you need to understand is that consensus does not mean just because you are right, you win the argument. It means you discuss patiently, if possible, the reasons you believe a certain thing needs to be included or excluded from the article, and maybe help others understand. In your specific case here, you will need to probably explain a LOT more detail to get people to agree, because the mainstream viewpoint is very focused on Muammmar Gaddafi as being the leader.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Common_name#Common_names

With regard to the reasons you gave in your request to remove the recent block above, you say "there is undue focus upon the person of Muammmar Gaddafi in the Libyan Civil War articles". Please explain this further. You use the term "warlord participants", which I doubt most people have heard, and uses the term warlord, which is not a neutral term for 'leader', so people would need to understand why you chose that term. You mention "Mustafa Jalil"? It would help to explain why he needs to be mentioned.

Also, this is a small note, but the term "invading" is biased, and the term "foreigner" is biased.

People prefer a common shorthand for things. USSR was something most people understood, 'Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya' or 'Libyan Arab Jamahiriya' are not names that are being commonly used, so we either use a common term, or we explain enough so that the reader can connect the commonly understood term to this new term.

I hope this is helpful. You seem to have a viewpoint that is lacking from our debate, and probably could offer a lot to make this article better, but without following the guidelines that Wikipedia has in place, it might be a while before you get a chance, or you might have to deal with getting blocked over and over. And that is really not what anyone wants, I think. Good luck. -- Avanu (talk) 11:56, 27 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Previous experience behooves you to read this. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 02:46, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Best to not make the same mistake twice
Hiya,

I don't mean to sound uncivil, but it looks like you're doing the same things that you got into trouble for last time. Please go to the talk page and discuss it. Odds are most people will say you should not use the official names as few people will recognise them. If you don't it's highly likely you will be banned again, and this time it will probably be a more permanent one. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 02:49, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Noting the intimidations you have attempted to make above my talkpage comment has already been supplied SuperblySpiffingPerson (talk)


 * Hi, SuperblySpiffingPerson, you need to take a look at the last two edits I have made on that 2011 Libyan civil war article. That is the type of editing you need to be striving for.  The way you are going about it is overly pushy and really not very community oriented or diplomatic, not to mention understandable for the normal reader. -- Avanu (talk) 03:17, 3 April 2011 (UTC)


 * @Superb, I was not attempting to intimidate you, rather I was trying to impress upon you the consequences of your actions when they have been stated several times before. And I would take what Avanu has said to heart as well. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 03:21, 3 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I truly appreciate the point of view that you bring to the Libya articles, but you have GOT to work with people here. You're just going to get yourself blocked again, and we will lose your perspective and input on things. Please please, try and work with us here. -- Avanu (talk) 03:22, 3 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I've been trying to demonstrate how you can incorporate the changes you want while not causing a fuss. It is entirely possible, and if you review the recent edits I have made, you can see what I have done.  But if you keep editing the way you are, it won't go well.  I'm really sympathetic to what you are wanting to do, but there is a better approach. -- Avanu (talk) 03:24, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

You've been reported for edit warring
Hello SuperblySpiffingPerson. Please se WP:AN3. You may respond there if you wish. -- Avanu (talk) 04:20, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

April 2011
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 fortnight for edit warring, as you did at 2011 Libyan civil war. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 04:40, 3 April 2011 (UTC) During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

Upon reconsideration, I have unblocked you. However, you remain unable to edit articles. It is hoped that you would be willing to discuss any changes to articles on the talk page first. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 06:54, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Welcome
Welcome!

Hello, SuperblySpiffingPerson, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! Wipsenade (talk) 18:53, 3 April 2011 (UTC) You have made many good edits on several pages so far, but remember to keep it cool and neaural (see WP:NPOV fo help and guidence on this issue)).Wipsenade (talk) 18:53, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
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Currently, you are unable to edit articles, thus preventing you from continuing the edit war. However, you are free to edit talk pages. This special block is intended to encourage you to discuss your proposed changes instead of repeatedly inserting them. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:49, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Concern has been raised that you are avoiding this editing restriction by using a Sock Puppet, this was reported to WP:AIV by another user, a cursory examination suggests to me that this is the case/. However for the purposes of assuming as much good faith as possible I have opened a page at Sockpuppet investigations/SuperblySpiffingPerson to confirm whether this is the case or not. You may wish to comment there. --Errant (chat!) 10:10, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 2 Weeks for abusing multiple accounts to get round an article editing restriction imposed on you. I re-instated the previous 2 week block. If you can demonstrate understanding of why it is not appropriate to edit in this way and agree to stick to one account you may be unblocked.. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Errant (chat!) 15:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I did what? --Closedmouth (talk) 10:30, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You "quashed" his block after you reiterated the statement above the unblock request that he was indeed already unblocked... I think. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 18:13, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Sadly, I don't think Superbly is reading *any* of the suggestions for improving his editing practices. -- Avanu (talk) 18:38, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I fear you are correct, I don't mean to categorise this or have it be a personal attack in any way, but I am wondering (from his sock username GadaffiPeace), whether he doesn't think we have some anti-Gadaffi agenda and that is the reason he ignores the suggestions. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Say Shalom! 19:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Ok - you're now indefinitely blocked, per checkuser, for repeatedly abusing multiple account. So much for probation and rehabilitation; you went right on socking immediately after you were caught :/ - A l is o n  ❤ 00:38, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

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Sockpuppetry case
Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Sockpuppet investigations/SuperblySpiffingPerson for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 00:22, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Pardon me, but you realise that this user has been blocked for quite some time now, right? I don't think he checks here anymore. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie &#124; Say Shalom! 03:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Banned
With this edit, in enacting a consensus of the community reached at the Administrator's Noticeboard, which may be viewed at, I hereby inform you that you are banned from editing the English Wikipedia with any account or IP address. Appeals may be made to the community, or to the Ban Appeals Subcommittee. Please use e-mail if you wish to pursue an appeal, as per standard practice, your access to this talk page has been revoked. Salvio Let's talk about it! 08:56, 18 May 2011 (UTC)