User talk:SurfAndSwim

AtTask and ProjectInsight
I would have proposed AtTask for deletion; I still think it's not notable software, and part of the "project management" spam slough. But I reversed myself after noting that the article had been through a fairly complicated history including two stints at Articles for Deletion, so there is some closure there, and renominating it would seem to be filibustering. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 16:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

I think the issue with that particular list (and probably a lot of other list articles) is whether or not the list should be shorter and contain only the most mature widely known and used applications (Primavera, MS Project etc), perhaps 5-10 products, or whether it will be inclusive and include more products. There are plenty of other well known legitimate and notable project management systems that could be listed there or were that listed there before. There are plenty of systems that are not well known or are very new and aren't that notable in the list as it stands now. So I think the root of the issue is really the Comparison of project management software article and not the individual articles themselves and the level of notability required to be included on the list. Thanks. --SurfAndSwim (talk) 17:20, 30 November 2009 (UTC)