User talk:Suriel1981/Archive 4

Colin Delaney
Seeing as you were one of the ones that wanted it kept, could you help me watch it? People constantly are adding week-by-week events and just a general list of every loss he has had. It's getting very annoying. Just because he hasn't done much, doesn't justify adding every match to the article by default. There is warnings in the article and on the talk page saying not to do it, but they aren't helping. RobJ1981 (talk) 06:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiCup
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WP:PW Newsletter
Hello! I see that you have a newsletter interview scheduled for a future edition of the newsletter. Due to the fact that we have started the Editor of the week, we will stop the interviews. The EOTW will be interviewed instead. To be fair, you have one week to answer the questions in your interview, as all of the interviews will go out in next week's newsletter. Cheers! iMat thew   20  08  16:42, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Commiserations!
 weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  16:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikicup IRC channel
Hi, this is a message to inform you about the creation of an IRC channel for the Wiki World Cup. In this channel, such things disscussed will be; future developments in the cup, disscussion about points awarded, and other general WikiCup related things. You can access this channel via IRC and joining #Wikicup. A more derict link is irc://irc.freenode.net/wikicup.

Thanks you. Sunderland06 (talk) 20:04, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Song
Hallo, I am from the german Wikipedia from the sociologic section, and I found out that you wrote a song text on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Song. We want to know the reason(s) why you wrote this song. It would be kind of you to leave an english (or german) comment on http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedistik/Soziologie/Musik&action=edit&redlink=1. Thank you --84.166.123.219 (talk) 07:33, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Denialism
An article that you have been involved in editing, Denialism, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Unomi (talk) 06:24, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter message
It has recently been brought to the attention of WP:PW that the newsletter is being to delivered to several users who have not been actively editing for several months. As a result, their talk pages have become increasingly large, unmanageable and slow to load due to a lack of archiving. In response, this message is being sent to all editors listed in Category:WikiProject Professional wrestling participants to say that anyone who does not list their name at WikiProject Professional wrestling/Newsletter/Active before May 16 will be automatically listed at WikiProject Professional wrestling/Newsletter/Nospam, and will no longer receive the newsletter or any notification of it. If you are added to WikiProject Professional wrestling/Newsletter/Nospam, please feel free to remove your name if you desire. If you wish to continue receiving the newsletter as normal, please add your name to WikiProject Professional wrestling/Newsletter/Active. If you simply wish to receive notification of a new issue, but not have the full newsletter delivered to your talk page, please add your name to the notification only list. If you have any queries please contact me at my talk page or leave a message at WT:PW. Thank you for your co-operation. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 00:36, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ric Converse


The article Ric Converse has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Doesn't meet WP:ATHLETE, WP:ENTERTAINER, and WP:GNG.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing  will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Nikki ♥  311   22:05, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Ric Converse
I have nominated Ric Converse, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Ric Converse. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Nikki ♥  311   02:51, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Message to self
Ohhhh God. Why does that welcoming message have to be so damn loving and cuddly? The user removed stuff from a page a page but because it was their first edit I assumed good faith, reverted and sent them a welcome message from Twinkle. BUT THE DAMN THING AUTOMATICALLY WENT AND THANKED THEM FOR THEIR EDIT! For bloody removing stuff! And now I can't remove the welcome message without looking like a dick. Not good. Anywayz, talking to myself has made me feel better. Ciao for now! ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 23:52, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for being kind to newcomers
Well, I said it all in the title, but still, thank you for your patience in explaining things to a newcomer in Don Stevens AfD. Hoverfish Talk 12:29, 12 August 2011 (UTC)


 * No problemo! The newcomer was obviously editing in good faith and looks to have been bitten before so I thought it correct to respond to the issues s/he raised. Thanks for thanking me! ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 13:25, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction.
Thanks for the correction. I understood the trick now. Sorry, I wasn't patient enough to go through the guidelines completely and missed this point. I will keep this in mind in future. Akiramuk (talk) 14:29, 12 August 2011 (UTC)Akiramuk

Tomas M Fleischmann
Tomas Fleischmann is 1 of only 123 survivors out of 16,000 children who went through Terezin Concentration Camp during WWII. Tomas' story is true and even more amazing as his book Lolli's Apple is told as an innocent 6 year old boy. I find his story more than notable however if anything requires editing, I am happy to consider any suggestions.

Please see category C for consideration: C. Be aware that some pages should be improved rather than deleted

Users participating in AfD discussions are expected to be familiar with the policy of civility and the guidelines Wikietiquette and "do not bite the newbies". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Droopyjaz (talk • contribs) 04:15, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * *Response to accusation of incivility and "biting newbies" (As message above was left on my talkpage and on this AFD, I will leave the same response in both places)
 * I have reviewed my statement in favour of deletion on Articles for deletion/Tomas M Fleischmann and do not find it to have broken any guidelines or protocol. I stated the facts neutrally as I saw them: that according to Wikipedia's guidelines (as quoted exactly and linked to in my statement) the article is a valid candidate for deletion. I did so without reference to any editor, without stating or inferring any prejudice towards the article's creator and without any assumptions of bad faith. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 08:01, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Srobak (talk) 19:44, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Srobak (talk) 20:14, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Football!
I see at Articles for deletion/Liverpool vs. Dinamo Bucharest, European Cup Semi Final 1984 you are, like me, a non-football supporter who has strayed into that discussion! And we both feel the same way. I suspect our distance from the subject matter allows us to see it not as a match report, but as a nicely recorded piece of human history. I am not trying to draw you into any further debate and there is absolutely no need to reply to this! Best wishes. Thincat (talk) 14:17, 18 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your comment! I certainly agree that maintaining an emotional distance is crucial to making objective observations on articles. It appeared that some editors on that AFD were letting their personal opinions get in the way of reason. By the way, I am actually a football supporter (and certainly not a Liverpool fan!) but I virtually never edit football articles and, as you say, simply strayed into that discussion. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 05:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Mayor Kennedy
Thanks for deleting the duplicate entry on James Kennedy, the former mayor of Rahway. As it turns out, I created both pages and I hope you will review the format I used (for the one that remains). No need to reply; just clarifying that and expressing my gratitude. Njdemocrat (talk) 06:39, 19 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I'd be happy to help out. Certainly some formatting needs to be done, especially to the citations, but that's no major hassle for me to take care of. I'll try and get round to it a bit later today as I'm about to head offline. In the mean time, you might find the WP:WELCOME page a useful reference as it has links to pretty much everything including the Five pillars of Wikipedia, the list of policies and list of guidelines. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 07:14, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Immersive book
Hi Suriel, just to let you know that I changed the CSD rationale for this article: If deletion discussions are closed early, G4 cannot be applied to re-postings. It is still A7 or G11, though. --Pgallert (talk) 11:43, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah never mind, a sysop deleted it under G4. --Pgallert (talk) 16:10, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

guerreros
you really got it in for 'em today, it seems! &mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 18:17, 24 September 2011 (UTC)


 * They were just in the wrong place at the wrong time! (i.e. Wikipedia when I've got a headache) ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 18:30, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Rick Proctor
None of the material posted in the Rick Proctor article was subject to copyright

I intended to return to the page to clean it up and finish, but your erasure left me having to start from scratch. Why did you flag material in the public domain as an infringement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Njdemocrat (talk • contribs) 22:02, 24 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Responded on your talkpage at User_talk:Njdemocrat. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 07:01, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Jim Logan(wrestler)
Um the Jim Logan Wrestler page, the second one i made, that was the one i intended to, the first one didnt have the right title. Jim Logan54 (talk) 20:04, 25 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not for fairy tales made up in school. Both of them will be deleted. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 20:07, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

But it has facts, it is about a real person, please dont delete the second one, just the first one! Jim Logan54 (talk) 20:09, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing up the issue with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/50 Cent's fifth studio album (2nd nomination)
It helps to have the WP process be as fair and neutrally-applied as possible, and also to be seen as being fair and neutral, and you've helped on both counts. I appreciate it. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 03:04, 27 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Responded at User_talk:Hobbes_Goodyear. <strong style="color:#9400D2;font-family:comic sans ms;">ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ <strong style="color:#DC143C;">Speak 13:05, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Copyright
Copyright can indeed attach to the form of a list. But it is well established in US law that it does not attach to the content in a list such as this one. Happy to discuss the law here with you if you like, in greater depth. Also, as you may note, Gallup Polls and Time lists are commonly referenced by other publications, as are Academy Award lists, which reflects what the law in the US is in this regard. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:44, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Feel free to explain why it doesn't apply to a list such as that one. <strong style="color:#9400D2;font-family:comic sans ms;">ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ <strong style="color:#DC143C;">Speak 17:45, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. The U.S. Supreme Court clarified this general issue in Feist Publications v. Rural Telephone Service Co., 111 S.Ct. 1282 (1991), in which it wrote (emphasis added): "A factual compilation is eligible for copyright if it features an original selection or arrangement of facts, but the copyright is limited to the particular selection or arrangement. In no event may copyright extend to the facts themselves."  A screenshot of the list would, for example, be covered by copyright, but the mere listing of the fact of the 200 people chosen in the poll is not. The same concept applies, for example, to Gallup Polls, Academy Award winners, and major league baseball statistics--which is why you see those results displayed by various media.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:42, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for such an exact legal example. Is it basically an issue of information versus entertainment? The Israeli news group conducted a public poll and published the results as fact so copyright does not apply, whereas if (for example) a television station produced a "Greatest Israelis" show for entertainment purposes with an unspecified level of voting input from their audience then it would class as a creative list and be the TV station's intellectual property (and thus copyright)? <strong style="color:#9400D2;font-family:comic sans ms;">ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ <strong style="color:#DC143C;">Speak 19:03, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

The results of a poll are considered data. In the US, factual data is not subject to copyright. The most common court cases relate to things like phone book listings and used car re-sale prices. The general rule is that the form of presentation of the information is in fact subject to copyright protection. One can't just xerox the white pages of company x and re-use it, or the re-sale prices reflected in Blue Book x. But the information itself is not subject to copyright, so you can reflect any such list -- but not in the same format, as in a xerox or screen-shot.

The rule would be the same if the poll is one by the Academy Awards sponsor, or Gallup, or a newspaper, or a TV station. The key is that they are gathering factual data, and the data itself is not subject to copyright protection. It would not matter whether the poll related to entertainment or not. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 19:17, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Declined BLPPROD: Carlos Averhoff, Jr
I had to decline the BLPPROD here. While there is an on-going RfC on this point, consensus is and appears to be that even a clearly self-published source is "enough" to prevent placing a BLPPROD tag, this is explained in more detail at WP:BLPPROD. Sorry for the inconvenience. --joe deckertalk to me 00:40, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing that out to me and making me aware of the on-going discussion. I'll change my PROD-ing accordingly. <strong style="color:#9400D2;font-family:comic sans ms;">ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ <strong style="color:#DC143C;">Speak 00:53, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks for your feedback on my Grahams article. :)

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 * Goodness me, a kitten! I love cats. Thanks! <strong style="color:#9400D2;font-family:comic sans ms;">ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ <strong style="color:#DC143C;">Speak 12:19, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Please stop
You have been sending off warnings to users, claiming that including scientific evidence on whether herbs works is contrary to policy. This is patently incorrect, and needs to stop. 86.176.222.245 (talk) 13:49, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Notice issued for abusing warning templates - possible case of sockpuppetry <strong style="color:#9400D2;font-family:comic sans ms;">ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ <strong style="color:#DC143C;">Speak 04:51, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

huh
y did i get a message? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crocman72 (talk • contribs) 01:34, 15 October 2011 (UTC)


 * For making this edit. Kindly do not vandalise articles. <strong style="color:#9400D2;font-family:comic sans ms;">ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ <strong style="color:#DC143C;">Speak 01:36, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Srry
lol srry that was my friend u dnt have to worry about me vandalizing again but that's a pretty nifty link is that like an auto-correct or something or do you just look at previous versions of the page? Crocman72 (talk) 02:08, 15 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crocman72 (talk • contribs) 01:59, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

(generic header)
Why did you nominate my page for deletion ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikesmolloy (talk • contribs) 15:16, 15 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Material about living persons added to any Wikipedia page must be written with the greatest care and attention to verifiability, neutrality, and avoiding original research. Also, the individual whom the article is about has not received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. <strong style="color:#9400D2;font-family:comic sans ms;">ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ <strong style="color:#DC143C;">Speak 15:26, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

What does that mean? he is a real person and deserves recognitionMikesmolloy (talk) 15:38, 15 October 2011 (UTC)