User talk:SusunW/Archive 17

DYK for Joaquín Clausell
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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you . I am fascinated by these neglected Caribbean women. So many of them made outstanding contributions to their nations. I learn as much from writing articles as I share by the completed page. SusunW (talk) 14:25, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Doris Sands Johnson
The article Doris Sands Johnson you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Doris Sands Johnson for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Adam Cuerden -- Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:42, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Lists of works
Please provide inline citations from secondary sources, or ISBN references, to cite the blank list of works. Our readers should be able to access evidence of the existence of these items, rather than just your own belief that they exist. It should be easy if you care enough. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:29, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * They are listed in WorldCat, for which I have provided a link. If there had been ISBN references given, I would have given them. SusunW (talk) 22:35, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Fine, so as long as there's an inline link in that section, no problems. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:40, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I went to the article and said about the same: we have Authority control to reference publications, no. Why inline on top? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for trying . SusunW (talk) 02:57, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Velma Scantlebury
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 * Excellent job on this one, great contribution to medicine. 173.225.249.190 (talk) 14:37, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I am striving to add back many of these Caribbean women into our collective history. They are indeed amazing and have been long neglected. Scantlebury's dedication to education about transplant, in the wake of such situations as Tuskegee and Henrietta Lacks, ad infinitum, may well be the most important part of her legacy. SusunW (talk) 15:32, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Adminship?
Hello again. I think you would make a great administrator manning our DYK desk. If you think you would like to contribute as an administrator on the DYK desk, I can nominate you. Xender Lourdes (talk) 06:25, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you but I would not do it. I don't know enough about WP policy and don't agree with so many of the "rules" that it'd be useless. Besides which, unlike many here, I don't find being "in charge" important. I'm much happier and less stressed if I serve in behind the scenes supportive roles. It gives me the flexibility to walk away from the ugliness that occurs on here, find my bliss and calmly respond later if needed. As an admin, one is required to act and jump into the middle of the muck and mire. Finally, one of those many rules I disagree with heartily is that admins are forever. If someone isn't doing their job properly or isn't treating others with civility, they should not remain an admin. I would never take the position unless the immortality is severed. Power really isn't all it's cracked up to be. SusunW (talk) 14:42, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That's perfectly alright. I think one should do what one is content with, and in your case, editing is something through which you are contributing so well. Keep up the wonderful work. See you around. Xender Lourdes (talk) 14:45, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Fatima Massaquoi
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Fatima Massaquoi you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dr. Blofeld -- Dr. Blofeld (talk) 15:22, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Fatima Massaquoi review
I see Dr. Blofeld has done a lightening job on the review. It's a bit late in the day for me to become involved but I'll gladly contribute tomorrow. Feel free to go ahead with it now if you wish.--Ipigott (talk) 16:57, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Working on it now. :) SusunW (talk) 17:02, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Fatima Massaquoi
The article Fatima Massaquoi you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Fatima Massaquoi for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dr. Blofeld -- Dr. Blofeld (talk) 20:03, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Ruth Guimarães
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?  00:01, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Silvina Fabars
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DYK for Rosita Baltazar
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Talkback
A user has replied to you at the nomination page. North America1000 07:26, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think he was replying to me, it appeared to me to be a rude and sarcastic outburst. I withdrew from the nomination because of his behavior. When one picks through the sources and only puts in information that supports one POV, it is slanted. When I am reading through the sources cited and they do not present the same image of events as in the piece, it is clear evidence of POV. We don't write for a tabloid, and whether Jaffray is living or dead, we are required to present NPOV and documentation. Maybe she wasn't a pleasant person, I could care less. But the sources cited are more balanced than the article:  says some staff viewed her as a terror, but others were not in awe of her and worked well with her. Omitting sources that show she kept the white house running well  and that the First Lady,,  not Jaffray imposed segregation on the staff, clearly show balance is not sought by the editor. It also is documentable that that decision was seen as progressive for the times.  We cannot judge historical events by our current standards. This source does not indicate that Jaffray despised Coolidge. , nor do the serialized versions of "Secrets of the White House" from Newspapers.com. Included in the piece is her book of secrets, but not her cookbook I could go on, but there is no point. The article is written like a tabloid piece, the editor does not appear willing to improve it and I want no part in an edit war. SusunW (talk) 17:57, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Need a QPQ?
I am a co-nom on one (one editor is a real newbie, BTW) Template:Did you know nominations/Naborr. I always like non-horse-people to look at these to be sure we are not speaking in gibberish! Montanabw (talk) 02:59, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll look at it. I took one day off and have 3 requests to look at DYK stuff. LOL SusunW (talk) 16:19, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

By the way
I should probably link you one of the best sources I've seen for the second wave of African Americans in the U.S. Congress. https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/GPO-CDOC-108hdoc224/pdf/GPO-CDOC-108hdoc224.pdf Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:47, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Great source! Thanks SusunW (talk) 22:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Carmen Souza
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DYK for Eleanor Sophia Smith
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Edit
Will you please look into this Template:Did you know nominations/Debopriya Chatterjee and Suchismita Chatterjee'?-- Nvvchar . 09:38, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I will but it probably won't be today. My husband and I are going on a Valentines excursion. :) SusunW (talk) 18:06, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It's done. I added some additional citations with their schooling background. SusunW (talk) 18:27, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Nvvchar . 01:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Winning the Wiki Loves Women #15Challenge!! Best Article and Best Team Work
Congratulations!! Your amazing article Malouma written by Team Women in Red has won the Wiki Loves Women #15Challenge writing contest.



I have placed a barnstar userbox on your userpage. But here is the larger barnstar if you wish to make a splash!! Thank you so much for rising to the challenge with such an excellent article!! Isla Haddow (talk) 07:35, 16 February 2016 (UTC) P.S. Your team was also voted for Best Team Work!
 * Thank you it was such an honor to work with an amazing group of editors on Malouma's biography. Her story was inspiring. Shows what can happen on WP when we put our minds toward cooperation. It was an awesome experience! Can't wait to do it again, maybe we'll find a candidate for Women's Month. SusunW (talk) 08:43, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * But don't forget, Susun, you were the one who picked this extremely interesting women as a focus for our efforts. And we all enjoyed working with you and sharing your trophy. Hope we'll have more competitions like this soon. Maybe and her friends can set something up for artists during Women's month? Maybe there will also be opportunities with the Dragon--Ipigott (talk) 15:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 1bandsaw discovered the contest, Megalibrarygirl suggested making at team. I kinda think Malouma picked me, she just resonated with me (and I found a lot of sourcing right off the bat). But we couldn't have done it without your language skills and editing. Rosie and bandsaw doing those reference conversions was so fabulous as I hate the tedium of that. Sue's references and photo finding. All I did was a bit of editing here and there. Nope, I don't take credit. It was a joint effort, but I thank you Ian for your encouragement. I admire your skills greatly. SusunW (talk) 16:37, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are absolutely right with the history of our involvement but it was thanks to your initial interest and contributions that we opted for Malouma. (BTW, perhaps someone should write to her and tell her how well she's doing on Wikipedia.) You, Susun, had already made great headway with the article before the rest of us intervened. But you are quite right about the referencing. I hate converting the standard Wikipedia references to the Harvard stuff. As the process seems to be pretty systematic, it's surprising no one has developed a bot to handle it all. If that could be done, it would save all of us a lot of time and trouble. Maybe in her role as our adm "content editor", could encourage her techie friends to do something about it? Then we could handle GAs in pretty much the same way as DYKs. Four or five a week!--Ipigott (talk) 17:04, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That would be amazing. All of it! I cannot figure out why the citation pull downs in article drafts don't just give the option to use harv refs from the get-go. Though that many GA would be amazing, I am quite happy that we seem to be getting one or two per month. SusunW (talk) 17:13, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Agree... I wish it were incorporated in the drop down menu. But I use this for Harv Refs, http://reftag.appspot.com/, and it works like a charm! Off hand, I'm not sure whom I'd ask about incorporating it into the drop down menu; I'll ask in Berlin. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:33, 17 February 2016 (UTC)


 * May I never be one that says "you need to fix that". This is a community project and we all have responsibility for each and every article. Oooh, and I was thrilled to find her runaway story (which ended ... we may never know what happened to her). It just goes to show that doing women's bios is very different from doing men's bios. It was only when I input a search string for Amy, Robert Johnson, that it came up. Every version of her name, Hettie, Hester, Hetty, Amy Hester, resulted in sources but not her fugitive story. The irony. You are welcome. One day, I'll raise my hand and you will be the one to fix my issue, I have no doubt. SusunW (talk) 16:37, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was a great find – the bit about having her teeth knocked out by a broomstick really brings the story alive. Difficulty with names is a systemic problem for articles about women – see Names of Hillary Clinton for a topical example.  Amy Hester seems to have been born Boadley so I suppose she married a Mr Reckless at some point but he seems to have vanished from history.  But the name Hetty Reckless really stands out – that's how I got started on the topic.  It's good to see it developing so well after first reading that almost nothing is known about her.  Andrew D. (talk) 08:39, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I read the Clinton discussion and find it funny. Exactly like almost every other woman's bio in the world. Were it me, I'd merge it into a piece on the difficulty of researching women. In Reckless' case, I strongly suspect she was "married" twice (don't know about the north's marriage policy for slaves, in the south, typically it was illegal without her owner's consent and her surname would have been that of her first master, until after emancipation). Per the 1880 census, she had at least two daughters, one after she moved to Philadelphia. I also note that records indicate Amy in New Jersey and Hester/Hetty in Philly, so maybe it was part of her attempt to hide in plain sight? SusunW (talk) 14:56, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Black Cross Nurses
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 18 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Another excellent one I had the pleasure to meet via DYK review! Btw, QAI has a new member of today, and one new whose signing up I missed, - it was a travel day, but that's not really an excuse. You may want to meet them ;) - This week, we have singers, some reviewed by you, today Simone Ballard, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:09, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Isn't is lovely how much we learn from doing those DYK QPQs? Sad that both Ballard and her mother gave up their careers upon marrying. Always makes me wonder if that was really what they wanted or what they chose because of convention. SusunW (talk) 15:17, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * We don't know if perhaps she reached her peak. Looking at the impressive parts she sang, perhaps she wasafraid of repetition. Anyway, she moved from Brussels where she had a standing, to Paris, and she was not a girl anymore. - At least with our article (which I wrote on request because the only source is German) the world can read a bit about her achievements, not only that she was some notable conductor's wife. - Imagine: today I had an edit conflict because another editor (a woman, of course) added an infobox before I did ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That's always the case, we will never know. But yes, I learn so much about amazing people by doing articles about them. I, like you, don't understand the reluctance to use infoboxes, but to each their own. SusunW (talk) 15:34, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't mind "their own", really, I have no ownership problems. If someone writes their hobby article and don't want an infobox, fine. But, see Pierre Boulez, if an article is written by several people, and those fervently voting against a minimal infobox have never edited the article before, I get involved, and even more so if people improving an article to higher quality forget what those before them contributed. I was taken to AE for one of these discussions, an interesting experience I don't need too often. Thank goodness I am not restricted anymore, not by arbitration that is. I tried my freedom on Boulez, - imagine how many articles could have been written with the writing skill wasted on that discussion. Do you know how many infoboxes I have "forced" on composers' articles (other than my "own"? That one ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:54, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Sybil Joyce Hylton
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for your contributions
--Ipigott (talk) 14:17, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you . I am thrilled that I was able to write so many important pieces about Afro-Caribbean women. SusunW (talk) 21:13, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I was amazed to see how many of the red links in our list turned to blue. Thanks also for adding so many names to the list and for covering so many of them yourself.--Ipigott (talk) 07:34, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for Fatima Massaquoi
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DYK for Ruby M. Rouss
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DYK nomination of Joceline Clemencia
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DYK for Norma Cox Astwood
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DYK for Gloria Wekker
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Doris Stevens
Hi! The article looks AMAZING! I cleaned up the EBSCO reference. Let me know if you need anything else. :D Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:25, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * THANK YOU! I think I want the two pictures of her later career I posted on Rosie's page. But the 1928 one is problematic as it is SOOOOO tiny. I believe both are US government publications, though I cannot find the 1928 image anywhere other than on the CIM page. Your thoughts? SusunW (talk) 16:28, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can dig up... fingers crossed. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:32, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Gracias mi amiga. Toes crossed too. SusunW (talk) 16:36, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * OK... larger version of the 1928. It looks like a newspaper photo, but I'm not sure who has copyright. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:40, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The other photo from the library of congress looks like it is copyrighted with restrictions on redistribution if there is commercial transformation or use permitted which looks like Wiki will reject it. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:43, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yay! Boo! How do we figure out if the first one is useable? I see the main page is about an article on the Journalist Muna Lee. Does that help? I cannot imagine there are no photos available of her time with CIM, but I am only finding suffrage photos. SusunW (talk) 16:48, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, I just emailed the guy who wrote the article. Maybe he'll have information. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:50, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yippee kayayyyyyy! That one was amazing. Her actual speech. I'd love, love, love to have it. Was thrilled when I found the one of the parade she was actually arrested during. SusunW (talk) 16:52, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Ana Irma Rivera Lassén
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Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!

 * please help translate this message into the local language

Thanks again :) -- Doc James  along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 03:59, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Wow! Thank you. I honestly had no idea. I work with Women in Red to increase notable women's biographies. There are a lot of women in the medical field who have been omitted from WP. Glad we are making a difference. SusunW (talk) 04:16, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Definitely :-) Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 04:27, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Hetty Reckless
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