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Wikimania
I'm answering you on my page because I don't want to create difficulty for you on yours. You're a bigger person than I am to apologize. Mucho respect from this quarter. I grew up in the segregated south. I was the only female in my field in college. This hullaballoo was caused by words, not spoken in malice. There is a definite difference. I don't want to discount anyone's experiences, so I'll leave it at that. Failure to not grasp the bigger picture is not your fault or responsibility, IMO. SusunW (talk) 05:41, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for this one and the other one. Glad you "get me". --Rosiestep (talk) 00:26, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month
A friendly FYI that a lot of us are going to be working this month on articles for WP:WikiWomen's History Month. The events and outcomes pages are very collaborative. Hope you have a chance to pop on over and take a look. Happy editing! --Rosiestep (talk) 00:26, 2 March 2015 (UTC)


 * As I said, I pick my battles. That was over the top, IMO. So far I have like 5 articles written for DYK on women's history month...Viola Hatch, Verónica Cruz Sánchez, Marta Lamas, Salvador Alvarado (yes, I get he was a guy, but a feminist), Jalila Khamis Koko (I just did her today). I don't seem to have much luck with collaboration. 1) I am in Mexico, 2) I work on minority women, 3) mostly activists and history/policy-- not musicians, not writers, not politicians. I will list my pieces there, but if the reaction you had is indicative of the kinds of people who collaborate, I am truly not interested. Will stay in my little isolated world and work on my obscure subjects. ;) SusunW (talk) 00:52, 2 March 2015 (UTC)


 * The flurry of comments I've had recently have occurred because of the Wikimania proposal spotlight. When I just do content work, it's a quieter life. Very cool stuff you're working on; good to know. And if I run across an article which seems to fit that niche, I will circle back with you. Happy editing! --Rosiestep (talk) 01:02, 2 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay, so I added all the DYK articles. All except Khamis are approved and in queue for the month. I supposed that the article creation tab would be only for articles created in March, so I have only listed Khamis. Portal, meaning Africa, Mexico, Indiginous? Feminist? Or something else? Do they want the article listed there or the portal? There are no instructions and no talk page, so I have no idea other than you who to direct my questions to. Sorry. SusunW (talk) 01:07, 2 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Historically, the articles listed in that DYK section include articles which have appeared at DYK, but may have been created in an earlier month; as well as articles created in March, but did not appear at DYK till April. If you think it would be helpful to add instructions, please do :) as the next person who comes along may have that same question.

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A barnstar for you!

 * women's history month always keeps me busy. I do a blog all month, so incorporating the articles here just doubles the coverage without double the work. Lots of amazing women in our world. :) Good to read you. Hope you are back to 100%. SusunW (talk) 13:32, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

March 8
, I have been working on a massive piece and have asked for other eyes, help, and/or input from both the Feminist Project and Women's Project without any takers. Since that didn't work, I have attempted to go the gamut, though there are sections I am not remotely an expert on. I would like to have other eyes on it, I am sure there are some parings that could be done, things that could be said more concisely, etc. My life is a zoo right now, I would really like to release this one by March 8th, but don't know if that's even possible. I do not want to presume that any of you have time, but if you do, could you take a look at this piece on Mexican feminism? If you can't, I get it. Maybe you know someone who could be a second set of eyes? The current page has literally 2 sentences Feminism in Mexico. My draft is here: User:SusunW/Sandbox 2

Thanks! SusunW (talk) 22:16, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Susun, upload it! Rate it B class. I suggest retaining the "Major proponents" section, but that should probably be renamed "Notable figures". I'll be at edit-a-thons on Saturday and on Sunday, and I'll ask others to eyeball it, too... but do upload it before then if possible. It's ready. You really do good work. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:35, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree with Rosie. I made a couple small tweaks to the existing article, but I would just copy and paste your sandboxed version in.  Montanabw (talk)  17:15, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you both. Appreciate it. Will paste it in and hope for some contributors once it is live. SusunW (talk) 19:11, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi. At last Sunday's editathon (Meetup/San Francisco/International Women's Day 2015), one of the WMF folks brought up the redlink on Women's rights in Egypt, and then we looked at the Feminism in Egypt article and then I told her that you had been working on the Feminism in Mexico article. There was a lot going on at the editathon, so not much more to say about that, but wanted to mention it here as you've put so much work into that article. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:23, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks! No one has given any input to the Mexico piece. I would like to submit it for a good article review, but have absolutely no clue how to go about doing that and hate to submit it without anyone else's input. I will be glad to take a look at the Egypt piece after I finish this last nominee for the International Women of Courage Award. Have worked my way through them all this week. Amazing group of women! The Bolivian one deserves more attention, though I am not sure what more I will find. The one from CAR is speculated as a big contender for president the coming election cycle. SusunW (talk) 16:37, 15 March 2015 (UTC)



DYK nomination of Arbana Xharra
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 * Right back atcha. Drmies (talk) 02:38, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * nope, I meant thana a reference to a police station not a specific reference to a region in India, Pakistan, or Bangladesh. Not sure why the Disambiguation page is not separate from the definition page. The article in question does not say WHICH thana the crime was reported to, just a district thana, thus the generic page is the proper one. SusunW (talk) 15:58, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * Thanks and good to know. I fixed it with your first one. Arguing with a machine is pointless? Who knew? o.O LOL SusunW (talk) 22:18, 16 March 2015 (UTC)


 * SCOMN! (Snorted coffee out my nose!)  These bots can be rour friends, they are also the reason that we have automatic vandal reversions when some middle school kid erases our entire article and writes in "johnny has a PENIS!" so the bots also do some serious good.  However, it was a challenge to convince one of those bots that canola is also legitimately called "rapeseed" ... ;-P   Montanabw (talk)  22:59, 16 March 2015 (UTC)


 * And now I have red jamaica tea (or would that be hibiscus flower tea in English?) all over the front of my nice white blouse. Truly laughing out loud. Good to see your humor again. SusunW (talk) 23:08, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Silvia Mistral

 * If you get a mo then have a look at Hortensia Blanch Pita which may be one for you Victuallers (talk) 21:18, 16 March 2015 (UTC)


 * How odd. Been working this whole era of Mexican writers, artists, musicians. Had not come across her name, which seems so strange because others of them were in Spain as journalists during the Spanish Civil War and others of them dated Cuban anarchists. Very weird. I added her birth date from the Catalonian piece and fixed a spelling error (I am sure you meant Cuba and not Cuna). Do you want to do a DYK on her? I have an extra review I could donate. SusunW (talk) 23:21, 16 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Sure, I was just checking that you thought it looked OK. I have translated it without any linguistic ability in Catalan or Spanish so I might have made a silly error. Thanks for the offer of a donation. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 23:52, 16 March 2015 (UTC)


 * So hear you. LOL Doing those women of courage was hard. I wanted to get each article to the 1500 char threshhold but gee, I don't speak French, Bengali, Arabic, Serbian, Albanian, Urdu or Japanese. I translate and then back translate to make sure I have the gist. It is exhausting at times. BUT, I got them all done. ;) SusunW (talk) 23:58, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Niloofar Rahmani
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Teresa del Conde
Hi. I started Teresa del Conde from a redlink on the Feminism in Mexico article, and when I got to the task of linking her to other articles, I saw that her name is mentioned over and over and over again! So I'm glad there's finally an article about her. I thought I'd mention it here in case you (or ) feel like expanding on it. If you're busy with other things, no worries. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:21, 19 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Yay! I just said to ) this week that I wanted to get rid of the red links in that article. Am working on Elena Torres now and the have María Arias Bernal but I'll get there. SusunW (talk) 06:54, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! I have no idea how to do that, but would love to do it. I would welcome any and all help. ;) SusunW (talk) 13:22, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * A good article is reviewed against the Good Article criteria. I think that the article currently covers most of the criteria fine, but my biggest concerns would be that the prose should be "clear and concise" and that the article currently only has one image (which took me a while to find!). For the former, I think the article reads just a little too much like an essay which this page, from section 2 onwards, might help you with. (I definitely go too much the other way with my articles, writing in an uninteresting and short and to-the-point manner!) I suggest seeing if you can rewrite/copyedit some sections based on the guidance at that page before submitting for GA, and I'll see if I can dig up some useful pictures for you! Sam Walton (talk) 13:21, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I shall see what I can do with it. In some places I explain because I am fairly sure the reader does not have the context of Mexico, but it may be that I can eliminate some of that. It may also be that I cannot. ;) It is sometimes quite difficult to edit your own words. SusunW (talk) 23:48, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed! If you need a fresh pair of eyes the Guild of Copy Editors takes requests :) Sam Walton (talk) 23:58, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * see what you think of this version. I like the photos. There are a few on commons. 1531 Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe anagoria.jpg Our Lady of Guadalupe, Tlaxcala - Palacio de Gobierno - Verhandlungen Spanier - Tlaxcalteken 2.jpg La Malinche, 28 de septiembre. Día por la despenalización del aborto en América Latina y el (the day abortion was decriminalized in DF). I also uploaded today a photo of Mérida's first feminist, Rita Cetina Gutiérrez. See what you think of any of those. Hard with Mexican copyright being 100 years. SusunW (talk) 01:18, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

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Japanese names
Regarding Sayaka Osakabe: just wanted to mention it is likely (even though for some odd reason Google can't find any Japanese language article on her whichever order I use) that 'Sayaka' (さやか) is the first name (for a start, only first names are written in hiragana) and 'Osakabe' (刑部) is the last name. Given the native Japanese order you may want to change the Japanese version of the name you supply in parentheses to 'Osakabe Sayaka' (刑部さやか). Ignore this (and my apologies) if this is wrong and/or this is all well known to you. Just trying to help. Cheers. <small style="font-family:Courier New;color:#C0C0C0">Contact Basemetal   here  13:15, 24 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I don't write or speak Japanese. The name was listed in an article the way I input it. Will gladly change it, or you can. This is a collaborative effort and I appreciate your help. SusunW (talk) 13:20, 24 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Susan, I like the new Yoko Hayashi and Sayaka Osakabe articles you have created recently. I noticed that in the Hayashi article, you actually her firm's name as her name in Japanese, so you may have noticed that I fixed that up last week. If you need any help or have questions regarding Japanese names or other language aspects, please don't hesitate to message me. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:45, 25 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I thank you both! As I said, I see this as a collaborative project and truly appreciate any and all help I can get. I do have an article that I am working on that is actually about a Mexican woman, but the best source I have found on her is in Japanese. Have had to copy and paste one page at a time into 3 translators to try to figure it out. If you would be interested in checking the document to make sure I did not have any glaring mistakes, that would be fabulous! The article is on Elena Torres If you click on the link of the Japanese article it takes you to a page that will have a button saying "show body." That button will actually access the PDF. SusunW (talk) 01:55, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Wow, thanks! I try. Women, and especially minority women are my thing. I appreciate that you have been reviewing them. By chance could you review Donnya Piggott? I think she is my only one still hanging from this month. SusunW (talk) 04:40, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * Thanks! can you take that "review" banner off? I don't know if it is "legal" for me to remove it when someone else has reviewed it or not. ;) SusunW (talk) 13:25, 25 March 2015 (UTC)    ✅     WordSeventeen (talk) 13:27, 25 March 2015 (UTC) SusunW (talk) 13:28, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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Julia Gjika
Good job on Julia Gjika. I've removed a couple of the tags. It's ready to be nomed at DYK (5x expansion since 23 March), which I'll do after work unless someone beats me to it. I am hoping the AfD will close as "Keep" soon enough. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:20, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Yay! I'll give you a QPQ, I have done about 6 that I haven't used trying to push the women through this month! SusunW (talk) 14:56, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * What you said on Ian's page about being lost to history makes me sad, too. I have seen that time and time again. We have to capture everything we can behind us, and do better going forward. If not us (the collective us), then who? --Rosiestep (talk) 03:42, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Regarding DYK: If you leave the article stubbish now (just enough to establish notability), you can expand it in April and/or etc. and nom it at DYK as a 5x expansion. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:47, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * That quote I put on Julia Tuñón Pablos's wall could be said of all women's history anywhere. 5x Too late for that. The OCD in me wants me to tell what I know so others can possibly help. SusunW (talk) 03:51, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * That quote is awesome. It's always a trade off... write up as much as you can find on Jane, or write enough to ensure her notability and then move on to Juana, to elevate her from otherwise total obscurity. It's been a struggle for me. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:03, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * We apparently have the same playbook. I am confused as to whether to stay with Jane or go to Juana all the time ;) SusunW (talk) 05:06, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * Thanks :) SusunW (talk) 12:49, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Hashida Sugako
Thank you for your contribution. Just to avoid confusion, it was user Victuallers who actually created the nomination for DYK although I have contributed to the article and have been an interested party. --Big_iron (talk) 20:04, 31 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't care who wrote it, just wanted to get it approved. ;) I hate having things pending on my to do list, because my life gets hectic. It was a good article. Victuallers and I have worked on several things together and he's good to collaborate with. He actually had replied on his page, but it never pinged me. Just glad it is done. I also think you did the Gjilke piece? SusunW (talk) 20:21, 31 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I started the Julia Gjika article but others including you greatly improved it. --Big_iron (talk) 03:00, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


 * As I said, collaboration. We work so hard to include articles on women and it is frustrating to me that so many of them get targeted as non-notable. Hit random article sometime and see how many sports figures with one line are in here. What makes up notable is apparently different. Saving women's articles is a definite goal! I am really pleased with out output for Women's History Month. SusunW (talk) 03:04, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you :D SusunW (talk) 03:49, 1 April 2015 (UTC)