User talk:SuzanneOlsson/Archive 2

Fida Hassnain
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MfD nomination of User:SuzanneOlsson/sandbox
User:SuzanneOlsson/sandbox, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:SuzanneOlsson/sandbox & and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:SuzanneOlsson/sandbox during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Dougweller (talk) 06:31, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

January 2013
Hello, SuzanneOlsson. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Roza Bal, you may need to consider our guidance on conflicts of interest.

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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Note that you aren't being singled out, I've warned at least one other editor and removed his link in the last day. Dougweller (talk) 15:54, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Mr. Dougweller- you have deleted everything I just contributed- claiming "COI" for justification...Looking over the rules and pointers on this very page, I do not agree with your decision. Here are some of the reasons why: 1.) You allow the Tomb of Jesus website to remain, yet not one of the creators  has ever been to India, or the the tomb. They have never researched it, made a film, nor written a book. They have no special skills or knowledge about the tomb,the founder was a bus driver in Chicago, who passed it on to businessman in Toronto, who passed it on to a bank teller in London..who keeps the website updated as best he can. Their interests are religious, and you support this. I love them dearly. They are my friends. I am just pointing out the inequities here. I recently acquired the domain 'rozabal.com.' This is relevant to several topics including "Jesus in India', 'Roza Bal tomb', and Yuz Asaf.  I have been trying to locate and update old dead links at Wiki, and update info as and where I can. I understand COI and have tried to avoid those pitfalls. The contributions I made are for benefit of researchers and not for self aggrandizement or spam...If it were self- promotion I would be all over Wiki inserting links everywhere, as so many others have done and continue to do, whom you always manage to ignore....You seem to take special interest in me. Why is that Doug? If you want to help, then please do tell me how to insert and update the links without "Offending" your ideas about COI.  SuzanneOlsson (talk)Suzanne OlssonSuzanneOlsson (talk)

It seems that COI is determined by ISP- If someone in California or Brazil submits the exact same info that I submitted, this would no longer be COI..Have I understood this correctly? SuzanneOlsson

[[Doug Weller said:  A long-running problem. See for instance Talk:Roza Bal - the discussions go back to 2008, up to the 24th of this month where she asks "would it resolve these issues if the very same information was submitted by someone else, preferably far away in a different State or country?". It's not just COI it's RS and EL issues as well. rozabal.com is her own domain, thus a personal website. See also her post at User talk:Katchu2. I'm sure she can get other people to edit for her, eg her grandchild User talk:Kashmir2. Dougweller (talk) 11:30, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

==Personal Conflicts== My new domain, rozabal.com, just went 'live' about 3 weeks ago. I have been trying to get that domain for years! Do you know why Dooug? Because that is my main research field for years. A Shroud of Turin website would aptly be named 'Shroud of Turin" in the same way  Ih ave been attempting to update sites where this is relevent. Roza Bal topic at Wiki is one of the key places people look for information about Roza Bal. There are maybe 4 people in the entire world who can contribute to this topic. I am one of them, and have been for over 10 years, and so  of course my name is coming up everywhere this topic comes up. Several years ago Dougweller, myself, and others clashed over this topic. At that time Doug believed it was a 'fringe' wacko theory and didn't want it to have any presence at Wikipedia. From then till Doug taken over the Roza Bal page being sure to delete every legitimate lead there.

The other day I tested this by posting links to several other books on the same topic...books written by other investigators. Doug deleted all of them. Roza Bal now appears to be an obscure topic supported by a lone group of Ahmaddis (whom Doug does tolerate but only after arguments with him years ago). Further Doug has relentlessly followed me around Wikipedia to argue, delete, and comment on everything I do here. At the top of this page in bright red letters is a 'warning' about harassment.Doug,I consider you harassing me. This has nothing to do with Roza Bal anymore. You have taken this to a whole new personal level. How can you determine that it's OK for the Tomb of Jesus website to remain on the page? How can you allow Fida Hassnain, my co-author to remain on this page (and in other Wiki pages) as a source and reference, but not me? How can you allow the TOJ and Ahmaddi views and sources remain on the page, places that have used me as a source reference for years, but you do not tolerate me or my web site, www.rozabal.com, even if the contribution is made by my grandaughter or someone in China? You are clearly prejudiced and blindsided. You couldn't make that any more obvious than in your posts here. You have become the worse kind of Wiki editor. Shame on you Dougweller. ]]   SuzanneOlsson (talk) 13:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)