User talk:Sven Manguard/2013 Q3

=July=

WikiCup 2013 June newsletter
We are down to our final 16: the 2013 semi-finals are upon us. A score of 321 was required to survive round 3, further cementing this as the most competitive WikiCup yet; round 3 was survived in 2012 with 243 points, in 2011 with 76 points and in 2010 with 250 points. The change may in part be to do with the fact that more articles are now awarded bonus points, in addition to more competitive play. Reaching the final has, in the past, required 573 points (2012, a 135% increase on the score needed to reach round 4), 150 points (2011, a 97% increase) and 417 points (2010, a 72% increase). This round has seen over a third of participants claiming points for featured articles (with seven users claiming for multiple featured articles) and most users have also gained bonus points. However, the majority of points continue to come from good articles, followed by did you know articles. In this round, every content type was utilised by at least one user, proving that the WikiCup brings together content contributors from all corners of the project.

Round 3 saw a number of contributions of note. claimed the first featured topic points in this year's competition for her excellent work on topics related to Maya Angelou, the noted American author and poet. We have also continued to see high-importance articles improved as part of the competition: was awarded a thoroughly well-earned 560 points for her featured article Middle Ages and 102 points for her good article Battle of Hastings. Good articles James Chadwick and Stanislaw Ulam netted 102 and 72 points respectively, while 72 points were awarded to  for each of Władysław Sikorski and Emilia Plater, both recently promoted to good article status. Collaborative efforts between WikiCup participants have continued, with, for example, and  being awarded 180 points each for their featured article on Boletus luridus.

A rules reminder: content promoted between rounds can be claimed in the round after the break, but not the round before. The case in point is content promoted on the 29/30 June, which may be claimed in this round. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. We are currently seeing concern about the amount of time people have to wait for reviews, especially at GAC- if you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 10:09, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

POTD notification


Hi Sven,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Eugène Delacroix - La liberté guidant le peuple.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on July 28, 2013. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2013-07-28. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:30, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Gràcies/Thank you
Hola, gràcies a la teva firma donant suport a la nostra associació. El passat dia 5 de juny Amical Wikimedia (Associació Amical Viquipèdia) va ser reconeguda pel Consell d'Administració de la Fundació Wikimedia com a Organització Temàtica. Pots veure el comunicat de l'associació en català aquí o el comunicat de la WMF en anglès aquí. Per a la nostra associació és una fita molt important, portàvem 5 anys demanant ésser un organisme oficial. Nosaltres continuarem la nostra tasca de promoció al carrer i a les institucions de la Viquipèdia i els seus projectes germans arreu dels territoris de parla catalana.

Hello, thanks for your signature giving support to our association. Last 5th of June Amical Wikimedia (Associació Amical Viquipèdia) was recognised by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees as a Thematic Organization. You can read the news bulletin of our association in Catalan here or the WMF's bulletin in English here. For our association, this is a very important achievement: we have been pursuing the official recognition for the last 5 years. We are going to continue the task of promoting Wikipedia and its sister projects all around the Catalan-speaking regions.

Moltes gràcies, Thank you --Davidpar (talk) 20:33, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Somebody's been reading the Times

 * You can finish it up, if you want. I have a PDF of the article that is in the references section but isn't in-line cited, if you want it. Also, please come on IRC, I have something Wikidata related to ask you about.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  03:20, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Nah, it's all yours. I start an internship tomorrow, so I'm trying not to take on too many more Wikipedia tasks (although maybe working at a magazine will inspire me to do more content work). On that note, I'll only be online for a few more minutes (gotta actually keep a normal sleep schedule now), so I think I'll have to pass on IRC. Sorry! — PinkAmpers  &#38;  ( Je vous invite à me parler )  03:28, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * (super talk page stalker) Congrats on the internship. Just make sure you don't drop out of the wikiverse entirely! Legoktm (talk) 03:31, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

2nd Annual Wikimedia New England General Meeting
You are invited to the 2nd Annual Wikimedia New England General Meeting, on 20 July 2013 in Boston! We will be talking about the future of the chapter, including GLAM, Wiki Loves Monuments, and where we want to take our chapter in the future! EdwardsBot (talk) 09:22, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 July newsletter
We're halfway through this year's penultimate round, and the competition is moving along well. Pool A's currently leads overall, while Pool B's  is second. Both leaders are WikiCup veterans, and both have already scored over 600 points this month. If the round were to end today,, with 274 points, would be the lowest-scoring participant to make it through. This indicates that participants will need a score comparable to last year's (573, the highest ever) to qualify for the final. The high scores this year are a testament both to the quality of participants and to the increased focus on significant content (eligible for bonus points) in this year's competition. So far this round, both Sasata and have made up over half of their score through bonus points, with, for example, high importance FA koala earning Sasata a total of 440 points (from a multiplier of 4.4) and high-importance GA sea earning Cwmhiraeth a total of 216 points (from a multiplier of 7.2). Other articles on important topics submitted this round include a featured article on the Norman conquest of England by, and good articles on Nobel laureate in literature Henryk Sienkiewicz, Nobel laureate in physics Hans Bethe, and the noted Japanese aircraft carrier Hiryū. These articles are by, and Sturmvogel_66 respectively.

Other than that, there is not much to report! If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 23:35, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

=August=

Requesting your opinion on a photo
Hi. We really need your opinion on which of these photos would make the best Infobox portrait for the Rick Remender article. Could you please offer your opinion in that discussion? The most recent subsection of that discussion is here, so you can just chime in there if you don't want to read the whole thread. I really appreciate it. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 17:13, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Limited time offer: 50% off coupon for Killing Floor for any video game related GA

 * what day does it expire? Today? — Soap — 02:43, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Aug 22 2013. Sorry for the omission.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  02:45, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 August newsletter
This year's final is upon us. Our final eight, in order of last round's score, are:
 * , a WikiCup newcomer who has contributed on topics of military history and physics, including a number of high-importance topics. Good articles have made up the bulk of his points, but he has also scored a great deal of bonus points. He has the second highest score overall so far, with more than 3000 points accumulated.
 * , another WikiCup veteran who reached the finals in 2012, 2011 and 2010. He writes on a variety of topics including botany, mycology and astronomy, and has claimed the highest or joint highest number of featured articles every round so far this year. He has the third highest score overall, with just under 3000 points accumulated.
 * , 2012 WikiCup champion, who writes mostly on marine biology. She has also contributed to high-importance topics, seeing huge numbers of bonus points for high-importance featured and good articles. Previous rounds have seen her scoring the most bonus points, with scoring spread across did you knows, good articles and featured articles.
 * , a WikiCup veteran who finished in second place in 2012, and competed as early as 2009. He writes articles on biology, especially mycology, and has scored highly for a number of collaborations at featured article candidates.
 * , the winner of the 2010 competition. His contributions mostly concern Naval history, and he has scored a very large number of points for good articles and good article reviews in every round. He is the highest scorer overall this year, with over 3500 points in total.
 * , who is competing in the WikiCup for the second time, though this will be her first time in the final. A regular at FAC, she is mostly interested in British medieval history, and has scored very highly for some top-importance featured articles on the topic.
 * , a finalist in 2012 and 2011. He writes on a broad variety of topics, with many of this year's points coming from good articles about Star Trek. Good articles make up the bulk of his points, and he had the most good articles back in round 2; he was also the highest scorer for DYK in rounds 1 and 2.
 * 1) has previously been involved with the WikiCup, but hasn't participated for a number of years. He scores mostly from restoration work leading to featured picture credits, but has also done some article writing and reviewing.

We say goodbye to eight great participants who did not qualify for the final:, , , , , , ,. Having made it to this stage is still an excellent achievement, and you can leave with your heads held high. We hope to see you all again next year. Signups are now open for the 2014 WikiCup, which will begin on 1 January. All Wikipedians, whatever their interest or level of experience, are warmly invited to participate in next year's competition.

This last month has seen some incredible contributions; for instance, Cwmhiraeth's Starfish and Ealdgyth's Battle of Hastings—two highly important, highly viewed pages—made it to featured article status. It would be all too easy to focus solely on these stunning achievements at the expense of those participants working in lower-scoring areas, when in fact all WikiCup participants are doing excellent work. A mention of everything done is impossible, but here are a few: Last round saw the completion of several good topics (on the 1958, 1959 and 1962 Atlantic hurricane seasons) to which 12george1 had contributed. Calvin999 saw "S&M" (song), on which he has been working for several years, through to featured article status on its tenth try. Figureskatingfan continued towards her goal of a broad featured/good topic on Maya Angelou, with two featured and four good articles. ThaddeusB contributed significantly to over 20 articles which appeared on the main page's "in the news" section. Adam Cuerden continued to restore a large number of historical images, resulting in over a dozen FP credits this round alone. The WikiCup is not just about top-importance featured articles, and the work of all of these users is worthy of commendation.

Finally, the usual notices: If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 05:46, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Re: Some of your old GAs could use a bit of citation cleanup
Thanks for the notice. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 14:04, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry
I fell asleep. GMT, you know. Reviewing, it looks like the only blockers are DYK (which you've handled) and Topics - can you point me to a sample topic section, that I can pattern off of? Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:29, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries. I and many of the people I interact with on IRC operate in blatant disregard for sane sleep cycles. I talk to people that are on at 3:00 AM in their local time so regularly that I occasionally forget that the vast majority of people are actually asleep at 3:00 AM in their local time. I think that I was pointed to Portal:Norway the first time I tried to build a Topics section, although I'm more sure about being pointed to Portal:Norway than I am sure what I was being shown there. It's a model portal in most regards. Regardless, that should be what you're looking for.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  17:54, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

=September=

Edit war
Tell that to HistorNE. Other problematic examples here and here.--The Ningeihher (talk) 01:40, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * There's no doubt in my mind that both of you deserve to be blocked for violations of WP:3RR. My only interest in this came from seeing you blank and replace HistorNE's talk page, which is an unacceptable way to deliver a message. Right now, I'm not terribly concerned with "who is right", but rather with the disruption your editing is causing.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  01:47, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Disruptive editing complaint regarding user HistorNE
Dear Sven, a complaint over disruptive editing of user HistorNE at Kurdish separatism in Iran and related articles was opened at [|Administrator noticeboard - incidents section]. As an involved party in this incident you are welcome to express your opinion. Thank you.Greyshark09 (talk) 22:31, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: INDONA
Generally, in deletion discussions we need to debate a lot, because generally creators keep on arguing. But, I don't try to save something only because it is my work. The arguments are important, it does not matter who created it. I am not going to try to save the template. Your arguments were persuasive. You can delete now or wait. -- Tito ☸ Dutta 21:10, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Titodutta, while I disagree with the method you chose, highlighting your role as someone that people can go to with questions about India related topics is a good thing. I would encourage you to consider adopting a link to the Wikiproject as part of your signature, the way that Nihonjoe does for WikiProject Japan. When I think of Japan and Wikipedia, Nihonjoe is the first person that comes to mind because I see that signature. If you want to highlight WikiProject India and broadcast yourself as a resource for India related topics, that seems like a great way to do it.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  21:14, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I wrote in my last post at the TFD discussion that the attempt was not to highlight any project. Adding project link in signature is disruptive WP:SIG. Actually in deletion discussions we need to argue so much that we can hardly believe that someone will accept right after first post. But, arguments matter, nothing else. Your points are well understood and completely make sense. Decide, if you want to delete it now or wait. You can speedy delete too. -- Tito ☸ Dutta 21:23, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

"Rockland" Records
Hello Sven,

I am reviewing the AfD of Rockland Records. I think the article should be saved (inherently notable per platinum album awards and high chart performances on Billboard), but not in its present format, as it violates NPOV and is more about the personal and professional relationship between Sparkle and Kelly than about the record label. The reason I'm bugging you is that my investigation reveals the proper article name should be Rock Land Records. I would move this, but would this cause problems with the ongoing AfD (linking, etc.)? All the best,   78.26   (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 14:45, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I did a search under the new name and got a handful of articles behind paywalls and three different papers covering one puff piece. I've amended my deletion rationale.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  18:06, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Puck of Pook's Hill images
I keep looking at this, but honestly can't see it. Could you use the commons annotator tool to mark the area? Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:53, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I've doodled on a copy to show you what I mean. See http://imm.io/1h9hE  S ven M anguard   Wha?  20:40, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm. It looks a little darker, but it doesn't look pinker to me. That said, everyone's eyes are different, I'll add a small desaturation to the right side. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:56, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It could be my screen. I have "gamma correction" on my screen (Asus' splendid utility, if that means anything). I always thought my colors were fine though.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  20:59, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, have a look again. Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:39, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The first one is noticeably better, however I'm seeing the same orange discoloration running along the top edge of the third image.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  06:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll run them all by you when all 20 are done; it's easier to batch-fix. Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:47, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure. That's fine with me. I have a few days blocked off a little over a week from now for travel, but I don't think you'll be done with all 20 by that time, so I don't see any issues with your plan.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  07:03, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Your arbitration
I have no hard feelings for your recommendation to block me and another user without getting into the details of editing on the Kurdish-Iranian topic, but i would like to have at least consistently fair arbitration from your side on the article Kurdish separatism in Iran.

This article gets frequent attacks by a certain hardline pro-Iranian editor and you can easily see that on the talk page. In the past it was Kermanshani, while today it is HistorNE - i suspect both are the same, but since Kermanshani stopped being active in May 2013 and Histor "appeared" on June 2013, i do not issue a sockpuppet investigation. The editor HistorNE is a wikizombie and possibly a wikifallen, with highly aggressive editing culture (you have probably encountered his battle with another wikifallen AndreshHerutJaim). HistorNE has so far attempted to |forcefully move it, officially rename it and now cut it down to pieces, without community consensus.

What i ask is simple and fair and for the benefit of wikipedia community: You have restored Kurdish separatism in Iran to 1-year stable 25 July version while i stated i would not get involved in that article any more, but HistorNE has already reverted your neutral revision to his version. I therefore kindly ask you to restore stable (25 July) version again, and let it be edited by all other interested users except me and HistorNE. I think this is most WP:GF and WP:CIVIL solution, thanks.Greyshark09 (talk) 08:27, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Never mind - it is being fixed via community consensus.Greyshark09 (talk) 14:43, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Editing rationale
Hello Sven Manguard,

I wanted to address your recent edit at Emu war. You removed the word "some" and the tag that followed it, with the rationale "if the word "some" is the problem, machine gun it down at point blank range (unless the gun jams))". The quantify tag was needed because the sentence was weasel-worded. "Some conservationists" is not a definite quantity and allows the user to mentally substitute a quantity that might be inaccurate. Deleting the word "some" doesn't fix the problem (that the person who used that print source didn't use a specific quantity), it just masks the symptoms. "Conservationists" is still an indefinite quantity, and the sentence is still weasel worded without "some". Some guy (talk) 06:18, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Gladiators events.
Per Articles for deletion/Atlaspheres, I have deleted all of the listed articles. I have also proposed to merge List of American Gladiators events with List of Gladiators UK events, as the materials onthose pages are largely duplicative. Based on your participation in the deletion discussion, you may also wish to participate in the merge discussion. Cheers! bd2412 T 23:19, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Kurdish separatism in Iran article
Hi, i would like to notify you that articles Kurdish separatism in Iran and Rebellions in Iranian Kurdistan are proposed to be merged. Previously a related discussion was held at proposal to rename "Kurdish separatism in Iran"->"Kurdish insurgency in modern Iran" (rejected). In addition, the template:Campaignbox Kurdish separatism in Iran was later split ( into new template:Campaignbox Kurdish–Iranian conflict, but was later remerged via a community consensus (see discussion). Current merger discussion is held at Kurdish separatism in Iran.Greyshark09 (talk) 08:04, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Puck of Pook's Hill
Hey, Sven. The set's finally finished; is there any chance if you could tell me of any funny colours, so I can fix them?

Cheers,

Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:42, 25 September 2013 (UTC)


 * There are slight variations in all of them, but looking at them in the set, the ones that really stand out as having color aberrations in the border are 3, 13, and 19. I see the entire right edge of 19, the entire top edge and the top-right corner of 13, and pretty much all of 3, but most prominently its top and right edges, as being different colored than the borders of the rest of the images.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  17:17, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Should all be fixed. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:44, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

By the way, thank you for your help. These sorts of issues can be very hard to spot on certain monitor configurations, but really easy on others, so having someone able to guide you helps a lot. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:27, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

My Signpost request
Can you tell me why you reverted that, please? --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 20:29, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No, I can't. I have no memory of making that edit, and was not on Wikipedia during the time that it happened. I went and got a CU, who assured me that the edit happened on a computer using my OS and browser, from my IP address, meaning that it pretty much has to have happened from my personal laptop (which no one else could have been using), but there's no reason for me to have been on that page at that time, and no reason for me to have been reverting that edit. A WMF staffer told me that the user agent itself was the same and that the action was done by me clicking to revert. So yeah, this is either a really weird accident or a really weird glitch. Either way, I've undone it.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  23:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * OK. No problem. I wonder what the heck that was. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 23:20, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Basilisk (Dungeons & Dragons)
Would you be so kind to review the recent edits to that article and the back-and-forth I've had with TRPoD on his and my talk pages and provide feedback? I'm specifically asking for your take on the conduct from an editor whom I don't expect to agree with me on content issues. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 15:08, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I do not consider myself sufficiently uninvolved as to render neutral assistance here. I recommend that you find another intermediary that works in this area. You should be able to find one by looking at the more active participants at WikiProject Deletion sorting/Fictional elements pages.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  17:03, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, thanks. Jclemens (talk) 02:00, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Precious again
  solidarity

Thank you for quality articles such as Architecture of the Song Dynasty, for eliminating backlog, for your essay "The monster under the rug", and for your solidarity with a missed user, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:58, 29 September 2012 (UTC) A year ago, you were the 258th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:51, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you again!  S ven M anguard   Wha?  17:24, 29 September 2013 (UTC)