User talk:Svgalbertian/Archives/2008/November

SVG logo
Hey Svgalbertian, I have an SVG file that I uploaded and the text of a logo appeared in a different font then it was supposed to appear in. The font was supposed to be Times New Roman but somehow it turned into Arial. Thank you. Emarsee (Talk • Contribs) 18:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Emarsee (Talk • Contribs) 20:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

S&P/TSX 60 and Category:Delisted S&P/TSX 60 companies
Hello, I've reverted your edits in the articles on Air Canada and ACE. Unlike articles that are only historical, these articles are about ongoing concerns. The word delisted bothers me enormously, because, in my opinion, it leads the reader to believe that the stock has been delisted from an exchange, and again, in my opinion, reflects badly and incorrectly on the corporation in question.

Wikipedia articles are routinely cruised and quoted by search engine bots and the word delisted rings alarm bells.

Perusing S&P press releases, I've found they make reference to addition/deletion from indices. Further, their press releases relating to this matter include the following caveat: "Company additions to and deletion from an S&P equity index do not in any way reflect an opinion on the investment merits of the company." Some the S&P press releases that I displayed contained links to spreadsheets, that listed all the companies in the S&P/TSX 60 index on the date in question. I could not find a list maintained by S&P that listed deleted corporations in there entirety. Rather, deleted corporations were listed on a press release by press release basis.

Some of the references in the 2 categories listed in the title of this section force the reader/editor to wade through a multitude of press releases, 200 plus, in the main, pdfs, displayable only one at a time, some of which when displayed link to spreadsheets. This is unacceptable referencing. It took me many hours ,following a link, to a list of press releases, and further, to follow links contained within these press releases, to reach a possibly relevant citation.

I believe your contributions in this matter are well intended and not designed to mislead. I do question, however, your decision to create a category, ie. a list, that one has to compile, rather than one, that is readily accessed from an S&P press release, and directly referenced.

Regards --Rosetown (talk) 21:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm anything but a financial whiz. Perusing S&Ps press releases(PDFs), my impression is that inclusion in their various indices are done by committees following strict guidelines.  One recent release, stated that ACE was deleted from the S&P/TSX 60 index. In another recent release, I saw that Air Canada was added to an index, although I don't recall which one.  You may be aware that it is ACEs stated intention to wind down as a holding company by distributing all its shares to its various stakeholders, thus having no reason to continue to exist. ACE has already done so to a great extent.
 * I believe that only ACE was on the S&P/TSX 60 index, not Air Canada. However, I was not prepared to wade through over 200 press releases and I could be wrong.
 * I'm assuming, maybe wrongly, that you are drawing your information from S&P.
 * Certainly, the S&P/TSX 60 article needs better referencing.
 * As to the (Category:Delisted S&P/TSX 60 companies), delisted is a misleading term. S&P uses deletion from. Perhaps, (Category:Removed from S&P/TSX 60 index) should you wish to continue with that category. As you can tell, I'm not a fan of this category. It's difficult to cite. You need a citation for every corporation on the list. There is only one editor that I can see. Its notability is questionable.
 * I hope I'm not being too difficult.

Regards--Rosetown (talk) 13:09, 10 November 2008 (UTC)