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Copy paste
You may have noticed that I have been modifying the article you created Henry-Louis de La Grange. This is a very interesting article, but I should point out that It is not advisable to copy and paste entire sentences from the sources. These will be seen as copyright violations (see WP:COPYVIO). I have been trying to reword some of these as I add inline citations, but there seem to be quite a few. --Robert.Allen (talk) 09:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Dear Sybille, Thanks for your response. This is an unusual situation. Probably Henry-Louis provides his biography to the PR departments of institutions where he is appearing. That would account for the high similarity of texts on the various linked sites that were in the article and that I have been reformatting as inline citations. Typically everything which appears on websites such as these must be assumed to be under copyright by Wikipedia editors. It seems to me he may never have published the information separately, unless it is reproduced in Neue Mahleriana. Unless he has published it, I'm not sure how he can release it under license. I have not yet been to a library to read the bio in Neue Mahleriana, although there is supposed to be a copy near me. At this point I have modified the article sufficiently that I don't believe other editors will tag it as a copyright violation, so this is probably not an issue right now.

On another front, and of more immediate concern, the picture you added (File:HLG Wikipedia.jpg) has been tagged for speedy deletion. This is a great picture, and I would hate to see it deleted. If Henry-Louis paid the photographer, then he may be the legal copyright owner. Otherwise it is usually the photographer. The photographer, who I am assuming is Dominique Degli-Esposti, would have to agree to one of Wikipedia's required licenses. The typical one is GFDL. (Others are described at Creative Commons.) If the copyright holder is willing to release it under one of these licenses, then that person (Dominique Degli-Esposti?) should forward a declaration of consent letter to " permissions-en@wikimedia.org ". A sample letter is provided at Declaration of consent for all enquiries. Once the letter is submitted, add the license to the image page on Wikipedia. I believe it is sufficient to add this text to the "Permission" field:.

Another minor issue is that the text you have in the "Source" field currently ("self-made by friend") is probably not acceptable. If the photographer is the one who provided you with the digital copy that you uploaded to Wikipedia, I believe you should probably give that person's name as both the source and the author.

Once these changes are made the Information template should probably look something like this (when using the file page edit tab): You should also delete the templates which have been added just below the Information template. I hope this is helpful. Please let me know if you have further questions. --Robert.Allen (talk) 05:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Robert, I very much appreciate your input. Although I consider myself fairly computer literate, wikipedia does not make it easy for a novice. Most of the help pages are written in legalese. What is missing is a really good, concise "how-to" section, with references to the more elaborate existing "help" pages.

All that aside, we are working on the photo issue. The photo does belong to the photographer, Dominique Degli-Esposti. I have already asked him to send the release to the permissions address. We are also trying to include the photo on wikimedia, so it will be available for the French, German and Italian versions of the page which are planned. Part of the problem is communication, since the photographer speaks limited English and I almost no French. Today a mutual friend was going to try to work with him, on the French wikimedia page, to supply the necessary releases. SW (talk) 23:01, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Sybille, I completely agree with your critique of the Help pages. They have been created by other editors like us and have evolved slowly over time. Part of the problem may be that each situation is a bit different, and it is difficult to anticipate them all. And I suppose not many editors are willing and able to put time into improving them, and of course, things keep changing. (Another possible problem is that changes need to be reached via consensus. This is sometimes difficult and time consuming, if there are two or more editors involved.) Glad to hear you are making progress! --Robert.Allen (talk) 00:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Indexing of Henry-Louis de La Grange
I had found Henry-Louis indexed as "La Grange, Henry-Louis de" in a couple of books and searched Google Books and got more hits for this form than "de La Grange, Henry-Louis" (see my comment at Talk:Gustav Mahler). I ended up changing the Gustav Mahler article to reflect those results. Perhaps I should have consulted you first. Is "de La Grange, Henry-Louis" to be preferred or is either one acceptable? --Robert.Allen (talk) 07:57, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I read somewhere that when one says "Monsieur" or "Mr." you include the "de". If you don't use the salutation, you usually omit it. I noticed in one of the older NY Times articles, they referred to him as "Mr. de La Grange", so that would be consistent with that. These days I doubt whether people are as careful about it. --Robert.Allen (talk) 05:57, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

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