User talk:Swarm/Archive 5

WP:RFA2011: RfA on other Wikipedias
A detailed table and notes have now been created and posted. It compares how RfA is carried out on   major Wikipedias (English, French, German, Italian, Spanish). If you feel  that other important language  Wikipedias should be added, please let  us know. This may however depend on  our/your language skills!

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Help requested
Casey Anthony: double redirect, fully protected. Please redirect to Casey Anthony trial. Thanks,  Swarm   X 20:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ - you might find it easier to add such requests on the appropriate talk page and add editprotected to the top of the section.  Ron h jones (Talk) 21:06, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That might be a remotely valid point if the edit request that was made wasn't ignored for 40 minutes before I made this request. Considering the 5 minute response time, I find that it's significantly easier to ping the IRC feed. In any case, I'm fully aware of the "standard procedure" and, given the media frenzy and attention surrounding this subject, I deliberately chose to ignore it. Best regards,  Swarm   X 21:22, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It's just a matter of luck on how many admins are active at any one time - sometimes quick response, sometimes not. C'ést la vie.  Ron h jones (Talk) 21:28, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Moving Leave No Trace
I believe that the recent move of Leave No Trace to Leave No Trace (organization) does not have consensus. Please join the discussion at Talk:Leave No Trace (organization). Thanks! —hike395 (talk) 01:43, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I responded to your comments at Talk:Leave No Trace (organization). Please feel free to respond. —hike395 (talk) 14:56, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Legal status of Texas and Republic of Texas (group)
An article that you have been involved in editing, "Legal status of Texas" and another, "Republic of Texas (group) has been proposed for a merge with Texas Secession Movement. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Otr500 (talk) 04:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

wow?
for what? -- Ashish-g55 03:30, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Re on your page ;). CharlieEchoTango (talk) 04:58, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi There
Did you mean to make a personal attack? --Protostan (talk) 01:08, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure? because I thought it was rather obvious I stopped edited the article on Loughner a long time ago after me and other editors found ourselves bound to the rules. --Protostan (talk) 01:16, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes well I have this ability called learning and rather than ignore what I have learned I try to use it. --Protostan (talk) 01:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the email
Thank you for the email you sent. Because you are correct in the things you said. I did return. Somehow I seem to be on thin ice so I'll more than likely maintain a very low profile. But I will be around and I thank you primarily. My76Strat (talk) 00:13, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Berlin Wall
Sorry, I had to take Berlin Wall out of Selected anniversaries/August 13, as it unfortunately has several sections that are lacking references. Regards,  howcheng  {chat} 23:41, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you the notification. Regards, Swarm  u 23:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

RfA reform
Well it looks like there's been a bit more stuff happening. I see you're working on the Clerks proposal, when you're happy with your progress do you want to put in another bot request to rally the troops? I've created a new proposal - which is near ready to put to the community, and Ryan Vesey might have a third for people within the task force. WormTT  &middot; &#32;(talk) 15:05, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * You read my mind with that proposal. Anyway, yeah, another bot message sounds good. I had a couple of coordination-related ideas that I want to run by you and KP first, though (nothing major). But great leap in momentum that we should keep going. :) Regards, Swarm  u 17:25, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Original source
Hi, apologies for not taking the time to find the original source, I couldn't remember where I'd seen it until this morning. It's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9jn_qUXtMk --PaulWicks (talk) 18:23, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
causa sui (talk) 21:26, 18 August 2011 (UTC) causa sui (talk) 21:55, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you
Much appreciated. Nice to see I am not the only one who thought the situation yesterday was weird, unusual and rather unfair. Polozooza (talk) 18:04, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no problem. I asked the blocking admin to reconsider, but by the time he got back to me there was only three hours left on the block so it was kind of a moot point. Oh well. Glad you're unblocked and watch out for 3RR from now on! Swarm  u 05:13, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Canvassing
I'd like to hear what you think at Talk:Anders_Behring_Breivik. causa sui (talk) 21:14, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll take a look. Swarm  u 05:14, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter
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Happy birthday!
'''Wishing User: a very happy birthday on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Swarm u 06:37, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, why thank you, Swarm! You shouldn't have! Swarm  u 06:38, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, buddy&mdash; after all, that's what the birthday committee is here for! Swarm  u 06:39, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Enjoy your birthday, I recommend everyone do it once a year. My76Strat (talk) 06:45, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, at least. :P Swarm  u 07:13, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

GA templates
The page paramater should stay "page=1". Where are you getting the notion that it should be changed? Gimmetoo (talk) 18:27, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * See Good article nominations. The parameter is empty. It's been awhile since I did a review, so it was just a simple mistake on my part. However, based on your edit summary, it's a common mistake. That would be why. Swarm  u 18:31, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Most people leave it blank. This is a different issue. You change "page=1" to "page=GA1". Why? Gimmetoo (talk) 18:40, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't change "page=1" to "page=GA1", I changed "page=" to "page=GA1". Like I said, the parameter is blank. I completed the review, filled in the blank GA, and then removed GA nominee entirely. Swarm  u 18:53, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The template had "page=1". You should just change  to, and perhaps change "subtopic" to "topic". Gimmetoo (talk) 18:58, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I could do that, but it doesn't much matter since I'm aware of the mistake and won't repeat it in the future. Swarm  u 19:30, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, no problem, and thanks. I only meant that the system was put together so that all reviewers had to do was change the template name for a pass. Gimmetoo (talk) 20:04, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. :) Regards, Swarm  u 21:07, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Question
I have observed some pretty remarkable contributions from this account. I am curious, why are you not an administrator. Pardon that you have struck me as the kind of editor who could be a good one, and that you seem qualified by a cursory review. I am working on an essay, and I believe you are of the adman class. I'd like to see you become an admin. This essay might explain, but you are exactly the kind of editor I had in mind. My76Strat (talk) 06:36, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I appreciate that Strat. I've always pretty much held the position that I wouldn't even consider requesting adminship unless I was approached by another user offering a nomination, or something along those lines. You're actually the second user who's recently approached me about adminship, so I guess I'll think about requesting a nomination (or taking up a tentative offer that might be on the table). Don't really know what it would say, but I believe I'm qualified and I guess that's something. Swarm  u 20:12, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I am glad you are giving thought to a run. There are no guarantees, except that I will be firmly in your corner, regardless. My76Strat (talk) 20:20, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Strat. Believe me, I have no illusions about RfA. I'm not an RfA reform proponent for no reason! :P Swarm  u 22:41, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I mentioned this to Swarm a few days back, and have been in the process of checking I was right. Am hoping to do a nomination soon - assuming there's nothing I've missed. However, I've been mildly distractive with other stuff on Wiki... and all I can do is apologise. However. I have 2 hours. Now. So... let's see.  WormTT   &middot; &#32;(talk) 18:16, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

I've created Requests for adminship/Swarm, for your... entertainment. WormTT  &middot; &#32;(talk) 20:35, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Good luck! Reaper Eternal (talk) 21:04, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks, Reaper. I'm humbled by that nom statement. However, I've decided, as I've just conveyed in an email to Worm, to postpone this for a while. I'll definitely give it a go in a month or so.  Swarm  u 21:14, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * One month it is :)  WormTT   &middot; &#32;(talk) 21:23, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

WP:WTW
How are you Swarm? Regarding this edit, can you share your perspective on whether the MOS guideline also applies at Jewish religious terrorism. It seems to me that if an article is endeavoring to list organizations as "The following groups have been considered religious terrorist organizations in Israel," it's necessary to establish that they're terrorist organizations in the same way that it's required elsewhere per WP:TERRORIST, i.e. widely used and with in-text attribution.—Biosketch (talk) 04:28, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, Biosketch. Well, yes, what you're saying is absolutely correct in principle. Swarm  u 09:30, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. I needed an opinion from someone I know's not involved in the topic area but has experience with these sorts of things.—Biosketch (talk) 09:53, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've commented on the talk page in detail. :) Swarm  u 01:32, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

New Zealand - US relations
Hello there,

I landed on this article and saw that you'd re-written recently the lead paragraph a bit. I certainly agree with it, but it looked like one of the sentences ended a bit abruptly:
 * According to the US State department[1]

I followed the reference to the state department site and made this change to complete the thought. Let me know if you agree or had something else in mind. Cheers, Northumbrian (talk) 00:40, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops... my mistake. That's actually exactly what I intended to write though (I guess I got distracted or something), so thanks for catching and fixing that! Swarm  u 01:07, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah good deal then. I've done that once or twice myself...easy to do with multiple tabs and edits going on at once! Cheers,  Northumbrian  Sprǣc  Forðunga 16:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

RfA Reform update
Hi. It's been a little while since the last message on RfA reform, and there's been a fair amount of slow but steady progress. However, there is currently a flurry of activity due to some conversations on Jimbo's talk page.

I think we're very close to putting an idea or two forward before the community and there are at least two newer ones in the pipeline. So if you have a moment:
 * Have a look at the min requirement proposal and familiarise yourself with the statistics, I'd appreciate comment on where we should put the bar.
 * Any final comments would be appreciated on the clerks proposal.
 * Feedback on the two newer proposals - Pre-RfA & RfA reform 2011/Sysop on request. Both are more radical reforms of RfA and might run along side the current system.

Thanks for reading and for any comments that you've now made.

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WP:RFA2011: Coordinators
Hi. The main reasons  why  WT:RfA was never successful in  getting  anything  done are that threads on different aspects of RfA are all mixed together, and are then archived where nobody  remembers them and they  are hard to  find - same applies to  ad hoc threads on  the founder's talk  page. I've therefore spent a couple of hours organising, transferring, and collapsing some of the older threads at  WT:RFA2011 - experience has shown that  people are quite happy to  follow a link  to  a new, more appropriate location. I've also added some slightly  more blatant  edit  notices in  the hope that  newcomers will  take notice. If you can, please consider collapsing and copying new threads started by newcomers to the appropriate talk page, drawing their attention to  the navigation aid at RfA reform 2011/Pages, and the edit notices on each talk page. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:21, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Will do from now on. Regards, Swarm  u 15:04, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Re. Haidill and the Neruda Review
I think you're right that this user hasn't been around for a while. I'll leave the review open for a few days and if he/she is not around by the weekend I'll just fail the article. --Olegkagan (talk) 22:53, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd say that's more than fair. Regards, Swarm  u /  t 00:31, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Contagion
Hey, Swarm! Thanks for keeping the box office figure updated. In the "Box office" section, there is a sentence that breaks it down by the US/Canada and the rest of the countries. When you update the infobox, can you update that sentence too? Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 00:38, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I apologize, I didn't even check that section to see if it needed an update; it slipped my mind. I will absolutely remember to do so in the future! Regards, Swarm  u /  t 00:46, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries, I had added it today. It seemed amiss that the infobox would have the figure but not the article body. Plus, the breakdown will help different readers. Happy editing! Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 00:49, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!
This is the first barnstar anyone has awarded me. I'll display it with honor and keep true with its significance (as best I can).-- MarshalN20 | T a l k 18:08, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, you earned it, but you're welcome all the same. :) Swarm  u /  t 18:21, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've read the discussion you got into as a result of giving me the barnstar. I honestly don't understand why he tells you not to "assume anything," and yet he has quite a big bad faith assumption on me. In any case, I will make sure not to let you down. Nonetheless, I do have to add that them calling each other "brother" really makes me think they may be Hulkamaniacs. Hehehe. Thanks again.-- MarshalN20 | T a l k 23:49, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, yeah. I honestly don't know why Dave feels so strongly, but when someone uses WP:Don't assume to counter WP:AGF, that's about the point where I stop contributing to a discussion. I've left it at "we'll see", and I hope you prove Dave's assumptions wrong. Best regards, Swarm  u /  t 02:42, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Mentorship of User:ChristianandJericho
Hey, on the AN/I thread you volunteered to mentor ChristianandJericho, and I was wondering if you'd still be willing to do so. An editor has expressed concern that I may not be knowledgeable enough with the ins-and-outs of CSD to properly mentor him, and I don't want to inadvertently tell him the wrong thing and end up giving him the green light just to have him mess up. I also think I may need to take a breather from editing for a few days, and I don't think that'd be fair to him to do that. Would you still be able to mentor him? - SudoGhost 15:04, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'd still be happy to. :) Do you want me to let them know? Swarm  u /  t 15:08, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you don't mind. The things he agreed to can be found here, if you want to move the page over to your namespace.  But if you want to discuss different guidelines with him, that's your call, just wanted to provide you with that information.  The AN/I thread still has some concerns about the pornography issue.  He agreed not to edit in that area, so I think it's just a matter of reminding him to remove it from his user page. - SudoGhost 15:13, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Your guidelines seem perfect so I'll definitely stick with those, and I'll be sure to remind them of the userpage issues. Regards, Swarm  u /  t 15:30, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated, thank you. - SudoGhost 15:32, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

I've blocked C&J until such time as you may be able to reel them in from their path of disruption. Gwen Gale (talk) 00:08, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I understand. Swarm  u /  t 00:16, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've left them a set of conditions for one final chance, and you're free to add onto them should you deem it insufficient. I think it will keep them on the straight and narrow, though. Swarm  u /  t 01:18, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
An aside: Mentors on en.WP tend to learn a lot more than the mentored, fast. Gwen Gale (talk) 03:42, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks Herostratus. Hopefully it will play out positively. :) I'll do what I can, but in the end it will fall to C&J. Gwen: Of that I already have no doubt. Swarm  u /  t 07:11, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter
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Help
My school's IP is currently vandalizing pages and I think I might be blocked along with the IP because I am currently on it, please see WP:AIV --ChristianandJericho 01:57, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It happens. The block should not affect you. Swarm  u /  t 02:14, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That IP resolves to Hanoi, Vietnam. Gwen Gale (talk) 02:28, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Care to explain, CJ? Swarm  u /  t 02:32, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've just emailed you on that topic, Swarm. I'm not sure there's anything that CJ needs to explain. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:36, 22 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Swarm, I am very concerned that C&J might be yanking our chain here. If you haven't already, you should look at the circumstances of his 22 August 2011 block for vandalism (including the troublemaking classmate editing at the same time on the same IP as him, making the same kind of edit, except it was a different IP), which at the time was somewhat suspicious, but I suppose could be attributed to a one-off coincidence.  Demiurge1000, if you have some reason to think this is not the case, I'd like to know about it too, if possible. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:41, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree it looks suspicious. Will forward you the email (just in case Demiurge doesn't see this right now). Swarm  u /  t 02:46, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * My comment - and email - was more with regard to what Gwen's comment implied (but didn't state). I do have some theories about what's likely to be going on, but I'll email you those, since I think CandJ should answer your question (on his talkpage) honestly, rather than me putting ideas into his head. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:47, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:49, 22 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I didn't see this until now, but I blocked him indef because he's just wasting our time. Obviously, taking a picture of his computer at school doesn't prove anything. If he wants to edit this site, he better have more clue than saying something as nonsensical as that. (By the way, could someone forward me that email? I'm willing to unblock if there's proof the IP was actually his school's, or if that's been verified, someone else can feel free to overturn my block. But I don't play games with children here—not once do I ever remember giving a child editor some slack and it not resulting an an indef soon after.) / ƒETCH COMMS  /  04:06, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I fully support the block. Demiurge was theorizing how CJ might be telling the truth, and was just emailing to avoid putting ideas in CJs head. Their explanation was nowhere near as reasonable as Demiurge's&mdash;or my&mdash;theories. There's no proof positive, or anything like that, it was just speculation and is nonessential concerning the block (although Demiurge can share their thoughts if they want, now) Swarm  u /  t 04:11, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * What I suspect was going on, is only relevant if CandJ admits it of their own volition and without prompting. We're all familiar enough with the "here is what you need to say to be unblocked" situation, and how certain editors will grasp at it. So I'll keep that under wraps for now. I do also have concerns about implying (essentially) that if the editor can prove what school they go to then they can be unblocked. We spend enough time trying to get younger editors not to be carefree with their personal information, we shouldn't have "except when we say so" clauses to that. Especially not when there's supposedly a great many eyes watching the issue with "child safety on Wikipedia" concerns in mind. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 04:31, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's what was happening. Gwen Gale (talk) 04:34, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Even if they suddenly come up with the most reasonable explanation, they don't have a snowball's chance in hell of being unblocked at this point. It's a matter of common sense. They quite clearly weren't just worried about their school being blocked. Swarm  u /  t 04:56, 22 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Without getting into the details, taken altogether, the odds the tale C&J wove is true are very close to zero. Gwen Gale (talk) 04:20, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick responses—I'm off to bed now but I expect some whining will occur in the next twelve hours, during the day in wherever his IPs geolocate to, if he actually lives there. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  04:22, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

maybe keep it for now?
I linked to User:Swarm/Mentor in both the ANI thread and on C&J's talk page, as I recall. I don't care much if someone else deletes (admins will still be able to see it) it but I didn't want to. Gwen Gale (talk) 06:33, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll keep it around for historical reference, at least for the medium-term. Swarm  u /  t 06:36, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to the Wikipedia Ambassador Program
Hi Swarm!

Congratulations! Your application to join the Global Education Program as an Online Ambassador has been accepted. The steps you need to take now, a few things you need to read, are bolded.

When you get a chance, please add your username to the official list of Online Ambassadors and add a profile for yourself here (which helps match Online Ambassadors with classes in their areas of interest).

Here are some things you should know to help you get started:

The role of the Online Ambassador
The main role of for an Online Ambassador is to join the "pod" for one or more participating classes. The pod is the team of people helping a class of students contribute effectively to Wikipedia, consisting of the course instructor, the local Campus Ambassadors who will work with the class in person, the Online Ambassadors who work with the class online, and the Regional Ambassador for the pod who will check in periodically with the pod to make sure everything is going well.

A prototypical pod might look something like this:
 * An instructor who is fairly new to Wikipedia, leading a class of 20 students assigned to make significant contributions to new or existing articles related to the course subject.
 * Two Campus Ambassadors, one of whom is an experienced Wikipedian and one of whom is new to Wikipedia. The Campus Ambassadors will have gone through a training program on the basics of Wikipedia and how to help students contribute effectively.
 * Two Online Ambassadors, one moderately experienced on Wikipedia and one very experienced, who can answer basic questions and give good editing advice and find others to help when they get in over their heads, one of whom has a particular interest in the subject area of the course.
 * One Regional Ambassador, a moderately experienced Wikipedian who is working with 15 different pods spread across a big geographical region.

(That's an idealization, but it gives you an idea of the spectrum of people in each of the roles in the program.)

The expections for an Online Ambassador in a pod (and what you can expect from other pod members) are laid out in the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between pod members. In short the role of the Online Ambassador is to:
 * Help students in your class(es) when they ask for it, answer their questions, and generally watch out for them
 * Help students to get feedback on their work (whether from you or other editors an interest in / knowledge of the subject area)
 * Be a good example for students, modeling good wiki communication and editing practices
 * Communicate regularly with the other members of your pod about how things are going and problems are coming up

To join a pod, go to the MOU signup page, which lists the courses for the current term, and leave your signature in one of the Online Ambassador slots for the pod you want to join.

You can also help as an Online Ambassador outside of your role as a pod member, anywhere you see students who could use help. Feedback on the substance (rather than style and formatting) of student articles, in particular, is always a need.

If you use IRC, please consider adding #wikipedia-en-ambassadors and #wikipedia-en-classroom to your channel lineup. The latter is the main help channel for the program, where students and instructors come from time to time in search of live help.

Wikipedia Ambassadors are expected to follow the Wikipedia Ambassadors Principles. Please review them.

Communication channels
There are three main places for news, updates and discussion about Wikipedia Ambassadors and the Global Education Program:
 * 1) Wikipedia talk:Ambassadors
 * 2) The Ambassador Program announcements list, which all ambassadors should join.  It is a low-traffic email list that is only used for significant announcement that are relevant to the whole program.  Please sign up as soon as you get a chance.
 * 3) The Wikipedia Ambassadors Google Group, a discussion list shared by Online Ambassadors and Campus Ambassadors.  It's not required, but it's strong recommended and most of the ambassadors are on it.  Request to join the Wikipedia Ambassadors Google Group if you would like access.

Newsletters about the program, or messages for Online Ambassadors particularly, may be delivered to your talk page on occasion.

Thanks for volunteering as a Wikipedia Ambassador! If you have any questions, please let me know.

-- Cind.  amuse  (Cindy) 19:13, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Research into the user pages of Wikipedians: Invitation to participate
Greetings,

My name is John-Paul and I am a student with the University of Alberta specializing in Communications and Technology.

I would like to include your Wikipedia user page in a study I am doing about how people present themselves online. I am interested in whether people see themselves in different ways, online and offline. One of the things I am looking at is how contributors to Wikipedia present themselves to each other through their user pages. Would you consider letting me include your user page in my study?

With your consent, I will read and analyze your user page, and ask you five short questions about it that will take about ten to fifteen minutes to answer. I am looking at about twenty user pages belonging to twenty different people. I will be looking at all user pages together, looking for common threads in the way people introduce themselves to other Wikipedians.

I hope that my research will help answer questions about how people collaborate, work together, and share knowledge. If you are open to participating in this study, please reply to this message, on your User Talk page or on mine. I will provide you with a complete description of my research, which you can use to decide if you want to participate.

Thank-you,

John-Paul Mcvea

University of Alberta

jmcvea@ualberta.ca

Johnpaulmcvea (talk) 20:26, 22 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Sounds interesting. Sure, I'll participate. Swarm  u /  t 20:30, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank-you for agreeing to participate in my study
Thank-you for agreeing to participate in my study, entitled “Online Self-presentation among Wikipedians.” I appreciate it.

As I indicated before, here are five questions that I would like you to answer. Please be as brief or as thorough as you like.

5 QUESTIONS

1. Are you a member of social networks such Facebook or MySpace?

2. In addition to maintaining a user page in Wikipedia, have you also written or edited articles? If so, about how many times?

3. What are the key messages about yourself that you hope to convey with your user page?

4. Have your Wikipedia contributions ever received feedback, such as being edited by others or commented on? Have you received a message from another Wikipedia user? If so, do you think your user page positively or negatively affected what other people said and how they said it?

5. Do you see your “online self” as being different from your “offline self?” Can you elaborate?



Answers
1. Yes, I'm a member of Facebook.

2. Yes, I'm an active editor. I have made more than 10,000 edits on Wikipedia. 2,800+ of those edits were made directly to articles.

3. I suppose mostly, I want to get across my experience level and contributions to Wikipedia. That's about it for 'key points' (though I also feature some quotations that I think raise some good points).

4. Sure, all of the above and lots of times. If it were one or the other, I would say that since I try to keep my userpage organized and somewhat professional-looking, it would be more likely to positively influence how someone communicates with me.

5. While I don't change anything about myself (such as the way I write, or behave, or anything like that), I've never really identified myself (i.e. revealed my name, education, personal details and life story) like some here do. That is because those things are irrelevant on Wikipedia. There's a principle here that who you are in real life doesn't matter, and I generally agree with that. So I guess you can say 'sort of' (is that an acceptable answer? :P).

Let me know if I can clarify anything. :) Swarm  u /  t 19:14, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Please indicate your answers to these questions on your talk page, or on mine. Or, you can email your answers to me (jmcvea@ualberta.ca).

Thank you again : )

Johnpaulmcvea (talk) 20:41, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

INDICATING CONSENT

By answering these questions, you indicate your agreement with the following statements:

•	That you understand that you have been asked to be in a research study.

•	That you have read and received a copy of the Information Sheet, attached below (“Additional Information”).

•	That you understand the benefits and risks involved in taking part in this research study.

•	That you have had an opportunity to ask questions and discuss this study.

•	That you understand that you are free to refuse to participate, or to withdraw from the study at any time, without consequence, and that your information will be withdrawn at your request.

•	That the issue of confidentiality been explained to you and that you understand who will have access to your information (see “Additional Information”).

•	That you agree to participate.

ADDITONAL INFORMATION

Background

•	I am asking you to participate in a research project that is part of my MA degree.

•	I am asking you because you have created a user page in Wikipedia that other people can use to learn about you.

Purpose

•	My research is about how people present themselves online.

•	I will look at how people present themselves when presenting themselves to the Wikipedia community.

Study Procedures

•	With your consent, I will analyze the language of your user page and gather basic statistics such as the count of words, the frequency of words, the number of sections, and so on.

•	I will also read the text of your user page, looking for elements in common with ads posted by other people. I will note whether you include a picture, or links to other content on the internet.

•	I ask you to answer my five questions, above. This will take about ten to fifteen minutes to complete. I will ask you to answer the questions within a week, and send your answers to me.

•	Throughout my research, I will adhere to the University of Alberta Standards for the Protection of Human Research Participants, which you can view at http://www.uofaweb.ualberta.ca/gfcpolicymanual/policymanualsection66.cfm

Benefits

•	There is no direct benefit to you for participating in this research. You may, however, find it interesting to read my perspective on how you present yourself online.

•	I hope that the information I get from doing this study will help understand how technology affects the way people come together into a society.

•	There is no reward or compensation for participating in this research.

Risk

•	There is no direct risk for participating in this research.

Voluntary Participation

•	You are under no obligation to participate in this study. Participation is completely voluntary.

•	You can opt out of this study at any time before October 10, 2011, with no penalty. You can ask to have me withdraw any data that I have collected about you. Even if you agree to be in the study, you can change your mind and withdraw.

•	If you decline to continue or you wish to withdraw from the study, your information will be removed from the study at your request.

Confidentiality

•	This research will be used to support a project that is part of my MA degree.

•	A summary of my research will be available on the University of Alberta website.

•	Your personally identifiable information will be deleted and digitally shredded as soon as I have finished gathering data about you.

•	Data will be kept confidential. Only I will have access to the computer file containing the data. It will be password protected. It will not be sent by email or stored online.

•	I will always handle my data in compliance with University of Alberta standards.

•	If you would like to receive a copy of my final report, please ask.

Further Information

•	If you have any further questions regarding this study, please do not hesitate to contact Dr. Stanley Varnhagen, my research advisor for this project. If you have concerns about this study, you may contact the University of Alberta Research Ethics Committee at 780-492-2615. This office has no affiliation with the study investigators.

Thank-you again!

Message
00:10, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

News and progress from RfA reform 2011
(You are receiving this message because you are either a task force member, or you have contributed to recent discussions on any of these pages.)

The number of nominations continues to nosedive seriously, according to  these monthly figures. We know why this is, and if the trend continues our reserve of active admins will soon be underwater. Wikipedia now needs suitable editors to come forward. This can only be achieved either through changes to the current system, a radical alternative, or by fiat from elsewhere.

A lot of work is constantly being done behind the scenes by the coordinators and task force members, such as monitoring the talk pages, discussing new ideas, organising  the project  pages, researching  statistics and keeping  them  up  to  date. You'll also see for example that  we have recently  made tables to  compare how other Wikipedias choose  their sysops, and some tools have been developed to more closely examine !voters' habits.

The purpose of WP:RFA2011 is to focus attention on  specific issues of our  admin  selection  process and to develop  RfC proposals for solutions to improve them. For this, we have organised the project into dedicated sections each with their own discussion pages. It is important to understand that  all Wikipedia policy changes take a long  time to implement whether or not the discussions appear to  be active - getting the proposals right before offering them for discussion by the broader community is crucial to the success of any RfC. Consider keeping the pages and their talk pages on your watchlist; do check out older threads before starting a new one on topics that have been discussed already, and if you start a new thread, please revisit it regularly to follow up on new comments.

The object of WP:RFA2011 is not  to make it  either  easier or harder to  become an admin -  those criteria are set by  those who  !vote at  each  RfA. By providing  a unique venue for developing ideas for  change independent  of  the general discussion  at  WT:RFA, the project has two  clearly  defined goals: The fastest way is through improvement to the current system. Workspace is however also available within the project  pages to  suggest  and discuss ideas that are not  strictly  within  the remit  of this project. Users are invited to make use of these pages where they  will  offer maximum exposure to  the broader community, rather than individual  projects in  user space.
 * 1) Improving the environment  that  surrounds RfA in  order to  encourage mature, experienced editors of the right  calibre to  come forward, pass the interview, and dedicate some of their  time to  admin  tasks.
 * 2) Discouraging, in the nicest  way  possible of course, those whose RfA will be obvious NOTNOW or SNOW, and to  guide them towards the advice pages.

We already know what's wrong with RfA - let's not clutter the project with perennial chat. RFA2011 is now ready to propose some of the elements of reform, and all the task force needs to do now is to pre-draft those proposals in the project's workspace, agree on the wording, and then offer them for central discussion where the entire Wikipedia community will be more than welcome to express their opinions in  order to  build consensus.

New tool Check your RfA !voting history! Since the editors' RfA !vote counter at X!-Tools has been down for a long while, we now have a new RfA Vote Counter to replace it. A significant improvement on the former tool, it provides a a complete breakdown of an editor's RfA votes, together with an analysis of the participant's voting pattern.

Are you ready to help? Although the main engine of RFA2011 is its task force, constructive comments from any  editors are always welcome on  the project's various talk  pages. The main reasons  why  WT:RfA was never successful in  getting  anything  done are that threads on different aspects of RfA are all mixed together, and are then archived where nobody  remembers them and where they  are hard to  find - the same is true of ad hoc threads on  the founder's talk  page.

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of RfA reform 2011 at 16:04, 25 September 2011 (UTC).

Good news: We now have a very important new member on the task force. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:07, 25 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh man, that's fantastic!  Swarm   18:18, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Quesions
Swarm,

I am creating my first wiki article. How do I find a sponsor/guide? Article is "Allen Loughry" — Preceding unsigned comment added by JayArgh33 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, in general, there's a great guide at Your first article that I would recommend you look at if you haven't yet, but if you're looking for more of a mentor, you can get one through the "adopt-a-user" program. I actually happen to be an adopter with that program, so I'd be more than happy to adopt you, or you can browse the list of adopters and ask one of them instead.  Swarm   21:00, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

That would be great. Let me tell you a little about my first article. I am writing an article about an author who has decided to run for office. He is running a grassroots campaign and I wanted to help. I'm not a paid staffer or a PR guy, I just read his book and wanted to help him out. That coupled with the idea that I wanted to contribute to something that I use so frequently. I am creating the article on him, but also want to create a brother article about the 2012 race and one for his book, which is used and cited frequently. I also want to get some practice so I can contribute in other areas of interests to me. If you are interested I would like to have a mentor. - Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by JayArgh33 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello Swarm
Hello I am in my first year of Social Service worker, and this document I have created is for Introduction to research. Please could you not delete this article for at least one week from today. (Sept26 2011) I am really hoping for a good grade and if Profesor can't find it I will most certainly get a zero. Thank you in Advance for hopefully not deleting. Also another students project was deleted almost instintly, is there any way that can be re-instated onto wiki site. Creater e-mail address tobymaryann57@hotmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pease66 (talk • contribs) 01:08, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Articles in Different Languages
Hello, Swarm!

I would like to ask what should be done in order to have the menu with the different languages in which a certain article is available. More precisely the question is how to connect the articles with the same content in the different languages versions of Wikipedia?

I could't find information about this. I'll be very grateful if you can help me.

--Wikibgineng (talk) 07:33, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Update on courses and ambassador needs
Hello, Ambassadors!

I wanted to give you one last update on where we are this term, before my role as Online Facilitator wraps up at the end of this week. Already, there are over 800 students in U.S. classes who have signed up on course pages this term. About 40 classes are active, and we're expecting that many more again once all the classes are up and running.

On a personal note, it's been a huge honor to work with so many great Wikipedians over the last 15 months. Thanks so much to everyone who jumped in and decided to give the ambassador concept a try, and double thanks those of you who were involved early on. Your ideas and insights and enthusiasm have been the foundation of the program, and they will be the keys the future of the program.

Courses looking for Online Ambassadors
Still waiting to get involved with a class this term, or ready to take on more? We have seven classes that are already active and need OA support, and eleven more that have course pages started but don't have active students yet. Please consider joining one or more of these pods!

Active courses that really need Online Ambassadors:
 * Sociology of Poverty
 * Architectural Design
 * Introduction to Educational Psychology
 * Intro to Mass Communication
 * Psychology Seminar
 * Theories of the State
 * Advanced Media Studies

Courses that may be active soon that need Online Ambassadors:


 * Housing and Social Policy
 * Anthropology, Wikipedia, and the Media
 * History & Systems
 * Horror Cinema
 * Digital Media... just bits in a box
 * Composition I
 * Telecommunications Management
 * Training Systems
 * Stigma: Culture, Deviance, Identity
 * Art and Terrorism
 * Political Violence and Insurgency

--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 23:15, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Sorry
My apologies Swarm. I'll be more careful from now on when I revert. (I think I should switch to HUggle from now on so I can state the reason for an iffy revert =) ). -- Kangaroo powah  23:37, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Swarm
Thanks for your kindness, I hope to contribute with wikipedia!! Regards!!

Tarkan2011 (talk) 14:24, 2 October 2011 (UTC) Tarkan2011

Greetings
The edit you removed was based on federal studies. Though I do share the concern which is I noted that it may have more to do with previous behavior than anything else. Especially when you note that figures they show, seem to indicate that the offenders make up less than 10% of the local Latino community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.29.214.34 (talk) 20:17, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Wikify's October Newsletter
Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of WikiProject Wikify at 16:10, 3 October 2011 (UTC).

Friendly question
Swarm, I see in the discussion about the Knox candidacy in ITN that you've cited the New Zealand Herald. Are you a fellow Kiwi?  Deterence  Talk 20:28, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Nah, I was just trying to present a good sampling of international coverage, and that, of course, includes NZ. :)  Swarm   20:42, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Chief Jim Billie
Hello Swarm! Thanks much for your editing, and follow up advice. Truth is I rushed the posting and only because as I was experimenting in the sandbox  someone started to edit the project  and interrupting my line of thought. I thought the sanbox was a private place to try things out and learn. Someone out there didn't give me a chance. Regards Izonly (talk) 01:09, 4 October 2011 (UTC).
 * Hi there, Izonly! It was actually a different user&mdash;named DGG&mdash; that gave you that followup advice, so comments on that matter should be addressed to them. :) But in any case, yes, the Wikipedia sandbox is public, but you can create your own sandbox for private use if you want. Just create User:Izonly/Sandbox and you can edit there to your heart's content! Feel free to message me if you need any help. Regards,  Swarm   01:30, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter
Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 04:19, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Swarm
Thanks for the warm welcome and the cookies. I hope to actively contribute to wikipedia. Startupfan (talk) 14:08, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. If you need anything, let me know!  Swarm   15:00, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

beating me
You've beaten me on a few reverts. Keep up the good work! Command and Conquer Expert! speak to me...review me... 06:44, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well thanks, I appreciate that! Also, you've beaten me to the punch a few times, so right back at you!  Swarm   06:52, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well its my first time using Huggle, so I'm just going crazy =) Command and Conquer Expert! speak to me...review me... 06:54, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the warm welcome. Will gradually become more polished I hope. Fujimama101 (talk) 10:24, 11 October 2011 (UTC)