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Happy holiday
Have a happy holiday and a good new year. Its been a while, but I wanted to thank you for all the great advice you have lent me whenever I needed it. Ottava Rima (talk) 05:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC)



Thanks guys! &rArr;  SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  20:59, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Feliz Navidad
A vos y a todos los tuyos. Thanks, SqueakBox 21:10, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Werner Erhard
I have been informed that you are the OTRS agent handling this case. A medcab case on this subject was filed back in November 2007. I am working on statistics and need to know if the Medcab case was inappropriate in the context of an OTRS complaint. Thanks Geoff Plourde (talk) 02:31, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Can you find me the ticket number so I can look more closely? I remember this particular case, and I agree, the filing of mediation was inappropriate. As I remember, the whole purpose of the mediation was because one of the parties was unsatisfied that they couldn't know the context of the OTRS tickets related to the article. I viewed that as an abuse of mediation, as there was nothing to mediate in this particular case. Again, if you could find the ticket number, I'd be able to locate the ticket in question (I do remember it was in the legal queue, so a simple OTRS search wouldn't show the information; if you can find me the ticket number I can dig through the legal queue's archives and find it.). 21:02, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The ticket I have is #2007051510011812 however it says there may be others. Thanks, Geoff Plourde (talk) 03:13, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I looked it over. Nothing in the ticket whatsoever would have merited a Medcab case. My recollection above was correct. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  21:05, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. I hope you have a wonderful rest of the year Geoff Plourde (talk) 20:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Note to Talk Page Readers: Vacation
I will be on vacation until approximately Jan. 13. While I may have some internet access between that time, attempts to get in touch with me may result in delays. If you would like a faster response, consider emailing me with the "Email User" function built in to MediaWiki. &rArr;  SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  21:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: I'm flying all day today. No guarantees of internet access. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  15:10, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

January 2009
See WP:Undue weight, which is a policy. It's that a single solitary journalist terming a band something is worth noting somewhere in the page, but to include it in the infobox is lending it too much weight. I am not violating policies, and your point about allmusic represents a basic cause-and-effect misunderstanding: it is not my dislike of allmusic that is causing me to work against their abberations, but rather their abberations that lead to that opinion. In essence, if what they say really is accurate, you should have no trouble finding further sources to verify it, should you? Prophaniti (talk) 21:49, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Undue weight does not apply over a single link. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  22:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It's not about the validity of the source: it's about the validity of the genre given by the source, because it's so outweighed. The undue weight policy states that "minority views should not be given undue weight". The view that they are alt. metal and post-grunge is in the minority, quite firmly. To include it in the infobox is to give it undue weight. Prophaniti (talk) 22:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That's your interpretation that it is a minority view. The evidence suggests to the contrary. Not to mention, even if it is, you are trying to eliminate any reference to it. Undue weight in that circumstance means that you have an entire page written on a minority topic; it does not mean that a single reference or two are "undue." Undue weight is also not to be used to advance your point of view; not to mention it does not excuse your rampant edit warring on the page. You are misapplying the policy, and you need to stop. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  01:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * My edits and use of policy are perfectly accurate, and in the majority of cases the edits I'm making do not require consensus: they're simply upholding the rules. Only in a few cases are they potentially controversial.
 * I don't see how you can interpret it as anything but a minority view. Indeed, there's no element of interpretation in it: it's a view, and it's firmly in the minority (nu metal has 4 sources, hard rock has three). Likewise, as I have said, if you want to include the mention of alt. metal and post-grunge in a styles and influences section, then you're more than welcome: many bands have a lot of genres assigned to them by a single journalist, and this are mentioned in such a section rather than crammed into the genre field of the infobox. The infobox is there to sum up the consensus of the sources on the matter. The policy simply states that a minority view should not be given undue weight. And that's exactly what I'm enforcing. Yes, it does synch up with my POV, but the POV is not the root of it, and as such there is nothing wrong in that. There's nothing wrong with people making edits that happen to fit in with their POV. It's only when the edits are simply POV with no policy behind them that there's a problem. Prophaniti (talk) 09:05, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You are not enforcing anything. You're misinterpreting policy, and if you continue you will be blocked. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  15:03, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Unblock request of Prophaniti
Hello Swatjester. , whom you have blocked, is requesting to be unblocked. The request for unblock is on hold while waiting for a comment from you. Regards,  Sandstein   15:52, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Comment: I'm concerned that this block might not be merited. I can't immediately see any disruption in this user's contributions, and I am also concerned about her allegation that you blocked her despite being engaged in a dispute with her. I'd appreciate it if you could address these issues or lift the block. Thanks,  Sandstein   15:52, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Posting from my phone: I am not in any dispute with the user. I noticed this user edit warring very close to the 3rr. I checked the contribs and saw this user has been massively disrupting music articles against consensus by changing band genres without discussion on dozens of articles citing incorrect and inapplicable policies, and on top of that has been blocked 3 times prior for precisely that behavior. There is no dispute, I am not editing the article, just responding to the users conduct. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  17:15, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your reply. I don't see much, if any, disruption in her contributions, and will invite other administrators to comment at WP:ANI.  Sandstein   17:33, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Please see now WP:ANI.  Sandstein   17:57, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I expanded on my reasoning more there with sourced diffs. It's difficult to respond via iPhone. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  18:17, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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Possibility of Wikipedia Loves Art at the Smithsonian
I'd like to invite you to possibly become our Wikimedia contact for the Wikipedia Loves Art project at one or more of the Smithsonian museums. We're in talks with them now, and it's not certain yet, but it would be great for them to know they have a local person to work with, which could really increase the likelihood of this going forward. Please e-mail me soon, because this is starting in February. Thanks!--Pharos (talk) 04:07, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Carolyn Joyce Carty
Can you configure that article to permanently redirect to footprints (poem), whilst keeping the block on article recreation? jonathon (talk) 11:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I could, but we're better served without the redirect. &rArr;  SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  11:27, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

"No Legal Threats" Edit
By the "comment on the talk page", I meant the comment (actually, two comments) I posted on the article discussion page, not my personal talk page. As it stands, the article is ambiguous about what legal actions are covered. At first, I interpreted it broadly, and commented that it is unreasonably broad. For example, if someone were to post your credit card number on Wikipedia and you were to sue that person, it does not make sense to block you until the lawsuit (or criminal prosecution) is resolved. But then, after reading the discussions, I saw that all examples of legal threats are disputes about content that is presently in Wikipedia or may be added to Wikipedia in the future, and I understood that this is what the community meant by legal threats. The suggestion to use Wikipedia Dispute Resolution instead of legal action also confirms that intent. My edit represents my understanding of the policy and is not intended to be a change of policy. Let me know what you think. Dmytro (talk) 23:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It reflects a significant change in policy that was not discussed. If I sue someone for their actions based on Wikipedia, even after whatever the on-wikipedia action was is nullified (i.e. page deleted, edits oversighted, user blocked, whatever), my actions in the lawsuit are still creating a chilling effect for editors; my being allowed to edit puts others at risk based on my behavior. That chilling effect is one reason that we've interpreted the NLT policy to block most persons involved in litigation or threats involving Wikipedia. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  14:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Merger proposal: The Open Organization Of Lockpickers
I saw that you took part in the AfD discussion regarding the article and would like to invite you to comment on my merger proposal. Arachnowhat (talk) 13:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Deletion review for Carolyn Joyce Carty
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Carolyn Joyce Carty. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedy-deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Stifle (talk) 15:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

WLA DC
Unfortunately, geonotice is dead at this point; Greg isn't fulfilling requests anymore. Instead, I've put a general WLA request at MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-details, because these photo events are really within the scope of a large percentage of the Wikimedian community on the English-speaking world. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 00:15, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

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Notability hoax redux
Hey, I don't know if you remember, but this time last year you blocked a bunch of IP's for creating this elaborate notability hoax (I don't know an easy way of finding the ANI thread). I left a whole bunch of those pages on my watchlist in case he pops up again and - believe it or not - he did. I reverted all the edits of the new IP. It's not much and I warned him on his talkpage that they are forever on my watchlist so he should just give up. In any case, I'm giving you a heads up on the new situation. Best, -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 06:30, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

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The Burke Group
I don't understand this edit, which appears to be accusing me of something other than a good-faith edit:


 * The fact tags were less than 24 hours old.
 * "Union busting" is not neutral language, nor is "union-free."
 * You restored multiple links to Facebook groups, in violation of WP:ELNO.
 * You deleted a valid EL in the External links section.
 * You deleted a valid cite.

Please self-revert. THF (talk) 01:06, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi THF -


 * Fact tags do not excuse unsourced information, which may be removed at any time.
 * Union-free is a statement of fact, and union busting is a commonly used term.
 * A link to a facebook group to source the fact that the facebook group in fact does exist, does not violate any policy.
 * This was an unfortunate side effect, however the link was duplicated already in the sources and as such unnecessary.
 * I'm not aware of deleting any citations? In the process, some changed capitalization, but I don't think that should affect the syntax, if so, let me know. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  01:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * THF, also you might want to be aware that there is an outstanding issue regarding this article in the OTRS legal queue, which governs some of the content of my edits. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  01:31, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll stay out of it then. There was no need to link the Facebook groups to demonstrate they exist, when the secondary source I added acknowledged their existence.  The unsourced information was quite detailed, and there was no reason to think it was fictional, as opposed to just unsourced (or, more accurately, self-sourced with a missing footnote).  When it's not a BLP issue, my personal preference is to have the fact tag act as a notice that there's an issue, rather than a call to immediately delete material.  Otherwise, why have a fact tag at all?  I do want to repeat my complaint about the characterization of my edits as "whitewashing"--I more cleanly cited negative material.  THF (talk) 01:46, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * My apologies on the whitewashing comment. I looked over it again, and I misread what you were doing. As for fact tags, sometimes I wonder why they exist. I think they're for stuff that probably *could* be cited, but isn't; in this case it seems very difficult to get an accurate cite for the exact numbers. As for the facebook groups, I didn't see that the secondary source had acknowledged their existence. &rArr;  SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  02:07, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Just discovered this discussion. Swatjester, could you please offer guidance on what responsibilities editors may have when an article has outstanding issues related to OTRS? thanks, Richard Myers (talk) 16:05, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The problem is doing so without revealing confidential information from the OTRS ticket. The best way is typically to edit as normal until an OTRS agent points out that something is conflicting with the ticket. Keep in mind, the talk page as regards to the above article had nothing to do with the ticket. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  18:44, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Loves Art: DC
See:Wikipedia Loves Art

The Smithsonian American Art Museum will be having a Wikipedia Loves Art! meetup on Friday, February 27 from 5-7 pm in the Kogod Courtyard. Come share your experiences, meet the other teams, and take some photos! While RSVPing isn't necessary drop Jeff Gates an email if you're planning on attending so he can get a head count: gatesj (at) si.edu. (Note: The SAAM is located in between Metro Center and Gallery Place (closer to the Gallery Place/Chinatown metro), and is convenient to all 5 metro lines.) &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  17:05, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * sorry i missed you at the meetup - btw, i uploaded a pic from there Image:Lafayette-statue.jpg, it has been deleted from Commons by Abigor because: In category Unsourced Flickr images reviewed by FlickreviewR; no source) will it be uploaded soon? pohick (talk) 21:37, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

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List of individual weapons of the U.S. Armed Forces
Ok this dispute is extremely old but what the hell. I have added M249 to the list of individual weapons, in addition to the BAR, as it was specifically designed as an individual weapon, and has been used as one since it entered service. The USMC has an assistant gunner follow the M249 marine around, but that's not necessary, it just increases awareness and ammo capacity. They also use it individually a lot of the time too. The Army use it purely as an individual weapon, with no assistant gunner.-- Patton t / c 18:59, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Except, it's not an individual weapon. It is a CREWSERVED weapon, that usually is only operated by one person. And as mentioned, the USMC operates it as a crew served weapon. Therefore it does not belong there. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  20:25, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you have any sources that it's crewserved? I wrote M249 which is currently on FAC, it's an individual weapon, was designed as one, look through all of the references listed there, none say anyhting about it being crew served, most of them state specifically that it is and was designed as an individual weapon. The BAR is definetly an individual weapon, there's absolutly no way it could concievable be operated by more than one person because of it's nature. Here are some extracts:
 * The Army decided that an individual machine gun, lighter than the M60 but with more firepower than the M16, would be advantageous; troops no longer would have to rely on rifles for automatic fire. (About the M249: Bonds, Ray; Miller, David (2002). The Illustrated Directory of Modern American Weapons. Zenith Imprint. ISBN 0760313466)
 * The Browning automatic rifle, which had been the army's main individual machine gun since its introduction in World War I, was phased out in the 1950s, as the M14 was scheduled to replace it. (About the BAR:Jones, Colonel Charles A. (December 12, 2005). "Phased out in 1960s, M14 was ‘very reliable’". The Lore of the Corps.)
 * It is employed at squad level and is operated by a single designated automatic rifleman. (About the M249: U.S. Army. FM 7-8: Infantry Rifle Platoon and Squad.)
 * Patton t / c 23:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I have added the BAR back into the article but will not add M249 back in untill end of this discussion.-- Patton t / c 23:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * BAR was not removed. IAR was removed, because it is not yet in service. M249 is a crew-served weapon; it is purchased that way by Office of the Product Manager, Crew Served Weapons, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ. See, stating "Department of the Army U. S. Army Materiel Command US Army, Army Contracting Command, Joint Munitions and Lethality (JM&L) Contracting Center The U.S. Army Joint Munitions and Lethality Contracting Center, PicatinnyArsenal, NJ, on behalf of PM Crew Served Weapons has a requirement for thefabrication and delivery of 5.56MM M249 Squad Automatic Weapons, to theGovernment Technical Data Package (TDP) Part Number 9348199)." In addition, though this is obviously not citable on Wikipedia, I was a M249 SAW gunner for several years. I can assure you that the U.S. Army considers it to be a crew-served weapon, even if it is operated by an individual soldier, the same way that the M24 SWS and the M107/SASR/M82 are operated by a single individual yet considered crew-served weapons. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  04:24, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * See also FAS.org's list of crew served weapons, purchase order for M249 spare barrel bags from OPM, Crew Served Weapons , (there's dozens of similar purchase orders like that too, all from the Crew Served Weapons division, Olive Drab, noting crew served weapon mounts for the HMMWV, that the M197 pintle mount is used to mount the M249, etc. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  04:28, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I could go on further but I think the point is clear, the M249 is a crew-served weapon (technically) designed to be operated by either one OR two individuals. As for the BAR, I dont know what that's all about, cause I didn't remove that. I removed the IAR, Infantry Automatic Rifle, which is what the USMC is considering to replace the M249, because it's not in service yet.  &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  04:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You removed the M249 BAR and SR-25 Please manually remove in future. The M249 was designed specifically to be an individual weapon, taht was the whole point of creating it and not just using M249s. The fact that it is crewed sometimes doesn't make it a solely crew served weapon. I have a compromise: We add the M249 to both the individual and crew served lists and add a note explaining when it's used crewed and when it's used individually and by whom.-- Patton t / c 16:54, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * And you reinserted IAR, which did not belong there; nor did SR-25 which like all sniper weapons systems in the U.S. military is crew-served. Please also be more careful in the future. The M249 was NOT designed specifically to be an individual weapon; that is the whole purpose of having an assistant gunner for it, that is why it is purchased by the office of the purchasing manager for CREW SERVED WEAPONS, and that is why it is referred to internally AND externally as a crew-served weapon. You are seriously confusing the amount of people that operate a weapon with individual/crew served status. Just because one person operates a weapon does not classify it as "individual". A weapon system can still be crew-served if it is assigned to a single individual because it has the capability and design to allow for a second person to assist in the operation. Adding it in as an individual weapon would be incorrect and a mistake. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  23:28, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Finally, I'd like to point out that even per the US Army's FM on the M249 it is a crew served weapon: "FM 3-22.68  Crew-Served Machine Guns, 5.56-mm and 7.62-mm (January 2003); 329 pages, illus.  Price 35.00 {Item No.338} [Same as: FM 23-67] [M249, 5.56-mm Machine Gun; M60, 7.62-mm Machine Gun; M240B, 7.62-mm Machine Gun]" . &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  23:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean this? Apparently it is reffered to as crew served, yes. There's also M249 LIGHT MACHINE GUN IN THE AUTOMATIC RIFLE ROLE—INFANTRY RIFLE PLATOON AND SQUAD contains this appendix, with this image—i.e. it's operated by one individual with nobody else helping. The debate here seems to be over what can be included in each list; I think the individual list should contain "crew-served" weapons that are usually only operated by one person. Why do you disagree with this?-- Patton t / c 12:17, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, you're not understanding; operated by a single person does NOT mean that the weapon is "individual". It does not change the status of whether it is a crew served weapon. It's one thing to have a note in the "List of Crew Served Weapons" page noting that a single person often operates the M249; that's accurate. However it's completely wrong to include it on a list for individual weapons, because it is NOT an individual weapon. The image you linked from FM 7-8 (which as a former infantryman, having served as an M249 gunner, I'm intimately familiar with), is entirely irrelevant to whether the weapon is crew served or not. I really don't see what's difficult to understand about this.   &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  07:40, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright then.-- Patton t / c 11:43, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * FYI, it's listed as individual here.-- Patton t / c 18:46, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 10 years out of date (last updated 1999); and the specific article on the M249 does not mention it as an individual weapon, just that it is individually portable (i.e., not broken into components and carried by multiple soldiers like the MK19 or M2). The article does, however, devote a whole paragraph to the M249's use as a fixed position machine gun (a crew served weapon, though they do not use the term). &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  11:08, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

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Wikimedia Academy event

 * Would you be interested in volunteering some time and expertise to help the Wikimedia Foundation in a collaboration with the National Institutes of Health? I unfortunately do not have a lot of details to give at this time, but in short, I'm looking for a group of Wikimedians (primarily US or UK based, but that's not a requirement) that have interest or expertise in various medical fields, to help participate in a Wikimedia Academy event with the NIH. Even if you don't think you'd be able to attend the event, but would be interested in helping out online in any capacity, I'd love to hear back from you. Please leave a message on my talk page at User talk:Swatjester if you are interested. Thank you. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  14:56, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm interested. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 15:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I am open to helping out, not sure how but fire over some ideas and I will see what I can do. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:14, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to help. --Arcadian (talk) 20:53, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure let me know further details (wont be able to jump over the pond, but could helpout/participate online). David Ruben Talk 14:04, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I am interested. - Badgettrg (talk) 18:56, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * May 16 works for me (I leave for Los Alamos on Memorial day weekend, so I'm going to be a no-show if it's then or after) Raul654 (talk) 01:27, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe. details? alteripse (talk) 03:52, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I haven't been invited, but I might gatecrash. Axl  ¤  [Talk]  10:31, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

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Perhaps You Can Help...
A few of us at WP:TVS are having a problem with User:Theaveng adding copyrighted information to List of television stations in North America by media market‎. The information has to do with the Nielsen Television Markets. The user has been adding information from the FCC (which is exactly alike to the information Nielsen uses). To avoid being in violation of OTRS ticket #2008091610055854, the information is removed. For whatever reason User:Theaveng readds it. The user has been warned multiple times and had stopped, but started up again today. I reverted and issued a Warn4im warning.

I brought this to User:Powergate92‎ (who has been involved in talk page discussions about this and who I thought was an admin) and he sugguested I bring it to an admin. I spoke with User:Juliancolton and for some reason he couldn't find the OTRS ticket and directed me to you, I was then directed to User:J.delanoy who didn't have access to the queue the ticket was in, he directed me to User:Daniel, who directed me to you. Hopefully you can help. -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • April 14, 2009 @ 23:27
 * As best I can tell, the list is Nielsen's list, being hosted by the FCC. This does not affect Nielsen's copyright. If Theaveng continues, you can let me know, I can give him a final warning or block if necessary. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  00:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • April 15, 2009 @ 00:47
 * Theaveng just added it to the article again. Powergate92   Talk  19:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ....and again. -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • April 15, 2009 @ 21:53

I left a warning on his page, since he appears to already be blocked for it. If I'm incorrect, or he does it again, please ping me (probably by email is best since I am on vacation this week and not regularly checking Wikipedia). &rArr;  SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  18:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

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while archiving my page. Must have been pretty busy :( Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:38, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

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Hey Swatjester. :) Just wanted to let you know that I have just restored the original semi-protections on those pages (namely, , and ) you had unprotected a few months ago after I had fully-protected them due to my wiki-break. Also, those pages were not my user talk pages (as you called them); my user talk page is here: Those pages were just other stuff which technically happened to be in the user talk page space, though those pages are no talk pages intended for communication (just as for example this page in your user space, that you have even fully-protected). Also, I should note that archives of user talk pages are regularly fully-protected (cf. ), as they (naturally) should no more be modified. In case I have missed something, just let me know. :) Best wishes, — A itias  //  discussion  23:33, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello Swatjester. :) I am requesting that you remove the protection you placed on the California Miramar University article over a year ago. If you did not place this protection, please let me know who did and I will contact that person.  I have been following this article for almost six months and trying to make edits to this page but the page has been protected with editing access denied to all but an apparent handful of contributors.

For example, in the discussion area of the article I provided a link several months ago that showed CMU was a candidate for National Accreditation with the Distance Education Training Counsel. CMU's name was listed on the DETC website as such. I was told by one contributor that he did not feel that this candidate status was worthy of listing in the main article because a lot of schools that are candidates don't end up being accredited. I reminded this person that that was an opinion and that opinions should not interfere with presenting the facts relating to the article. The fact of CMU's candidate status with DETC, however, never made it onto the main Article page due to the "opinion" alone of one of the contributors who had editorial access and the protection of the article from other contributors like myself who cannot get verifiable material into the article.

Yesterday, I went on the DETC site and found that CMU gained national accreditation from DETC earlier this month.DETC 2009-10 Directory of Accredited Institutions In fact, CMU was the only new institution accredited in the June cycle by DETC. Notes of June DETC Accreditation Meeting However, because the article is protected, I have to wait for someone to post this information for me. I don't think this is Wikipedia's intent or their policy.

I hope that CMU's accreditation will bring about a positive change in the article and the contributors. Hopefully you will agree that the initial reason for blocking the article over a year ago seems to be in the past. I am looking for a fair and balanced article. Protecting the article and thereby denying access to legitimate contributors with verifiable and referenced information concerning the article is simply not fair and not in accordance with Wikipedia policy.

Please, unblock this site for everyone. Thank you. Angelone7749 (talk) 15:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I cannot do that. The page was protected under WP:OFFICE; it is up to the foundation to remove that protection. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  06:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

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Hello. You have previously commented on issues related to User:NYScholar. I have just proposed that NYScholar be community banned here. I am contacting you partly because your participation in the discussion would be welcome, but also because I have referred to your past comments, and want to give you the chance to ensure that I am not misconstruing them or using them out of context. Best, Steve Smith (talk) (formerly Sarcasticidealist) 07:05, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks accurate. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  23:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

ANI Notice about you
Hello,. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Specifically, a legal threat has been made against me, and also you, it seems. Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry (talk) 01:03, 5 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks resolved now! Thanks for the information. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  13:27, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Re: this, are on IRC? or contactable via an easier setting than Wikipedia talk pages? I need to show you the reason for the BLP/Indiana gregg thing. Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry (talk) 20:07, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Resolved. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  15:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

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Hi ,

On behalf of Wikivoices, a community podcast based on the English Wikipedia, I would like to invite you (and all the other Board of Trustees candidates) to a round table interview on Skype to be held at 10:00:00 p.m. Friday July 24, 2009 in UTC. The format of this interview will be question-answer style whereby interested members of the community will pose questions to one or all of the candidates involved. If you would like any further information about the process or Skype, please contact Durova or myself on the English Wikipedia. Please be advised that spaces are limited and the sign up page can be found here. We look forward to your attendence at this event. Cheers  « l | Promethean ™ | l »   (talk) 05:45, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately I will be unavailable that weekend. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  06:12, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Thankyou for replying so fast, sorry that you could not make it.  « l | ?romethean ™ | l »   (talk) 09:10, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Signpost interview request
Dan, I invite you to answer a set of questions for the Wikipedia Signpost about your board candidacy: Wikipedia Signpost/2009 Board elections/Dan Rosenthal. If you choose to do so, please let me know. I also encourage you to respond by 26 July; interviews with all candidates who respond will be publicized in the 27 July issue of the Signpost.

Faithfully, ragesoss (talk) 18:11, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll do my best. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  01:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

File:Brother Jed Card.jpg
Hey, I saw that you took a photo of a business card, File:Brother Jed Card.jpg. Taking a photo of copyrighted works does not transfer the copyright to you, so unless you are the copyright owner of the original design of the card, you cannot release that image under a free license. I've tagged the image as lacking permission from the copyright holder. If you have any questions about this, feel free to contact me (or if I have made a mistaken in tagging the image). More information can be found in the message Template:Di-no permission-notice, but I didn't want to template an established editor such as yourself. Thanks for your consideration. -Andrew c [talk] 14:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I have the permission of the owner of the business card to upload the image in the format of my choice. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  21:20, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * That's great! Would it be possible to e-mail that permission to OTRS? As the template:npd states, Unless a link to a webpage with an explicit permission is provided, or an email from the copyright owner is sent or forwarded to permissions-en -at- wikimedia -dot- org, the image will be deleted after Tuesday, 4 August 2009. Thanks again for working to clear this up. -Andrew c [talk] 21:25, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I can't, unfortunately. As an OTRS representative, I could vouch for myself, but I don't have access to the email account anymore that originally had the permission. If you want, you can temporarily delete the image and I'll attempt to contact Brother Jed and get him to resend it to my new address. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  01:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:Hornbook -- a new law-related task force for the J.D. curriculum
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This image is has a music website watermark on it and is defintly not the uploaders own work. Id tag it myself for review or w.e but its been so long since i last posted on here i forgot how and your the only admin's whos name i remebered. Royal Orleans 20:37, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Request For IP Ban
IP 94.67.131.86 has made a couple of particularly odious edits. I hesitate to use the term evil, yet I can scarcely think of another term that does justice to describe Darko Trifunović. Therefore, I respectfully request that you ban the address from editing Wikipedia ever again. Thank you for your time in considering my request. --NBahn (talk) 21:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Simple vandalism such as that may be handled quickly at WP:AIV, for future reference. &rArr;  SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  21:55, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thank you for your time. Sorry to have troubled you. --NBahn (talk) 22:43, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * It's no trouble. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  19:06, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Inappropriate use of Huggle
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About a year ago, you removed my rollback rights. By that time, I answer your message explaining my acts and recognizing my mistakes. Now, one year after, is it possible to restore the rollback rights? Thanks Caiaffa (talk) 22:45, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

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 * 16:15, 15 September 2007 Swatjester protected Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution ‎ (vandalism [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed])

As it's been a couple of years now I've started a review of this semiprotection to see if it's still considered necessary. See talk:Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. --TS 18:29, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

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 * 16:24, 1 February 2008 Swatjester (talk | contribs) protected Getmetickets.net ‎ (Per OTRS, this page needs to be semi'd for a while. [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed])

Yes, it's another semiprotection review, though as it was an OTRS issue I think it's more appropriate to discuss this directly with you. Do you recall the case, and would you consider the period since February last year to be adequate? --TS 14:17, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I vaguely recall it to be a legal queue case; it's long since over by now. I've unprotected. Thanks! &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  21:35, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Here is another.


 * 17:05, 23 February 2008 Swatjester protected Derek Smart ‎ (Semi-protection: Vandalism, sustained vandalism by Derek Smart and his surrogates, per ArbCom. .undefined [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed])

The arbitration case in question was Requests for arbitration/Derek Smart and the notice is still at the top of this talk page.

Over 18 months have now passed, and it's two-and-a-half years since the arbitration case, so I'm reviewing it. See talk:Derek Smart. --TS 07:15, 12 September 2009 (UTC)


 * This one, I'd disagree with. Derek Smart has shown that he patiently watches the page for any chance he can to get back in and violate the rulings. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  14:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

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Please see Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents, relevant to someone you unblocked from a community ban with a 'last chance'. His copyvios have also resumed. I did the copyvio cleanup last time around; requesting you handle it this time. Durova 350 20:41, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Responded, no problem with him rebanning him. I can't do the copyvios immediately at this time, I'm indisposed for most of the weekend and potentially part of the week. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  15:35, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

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Carolyn Joyce Carty et al.
Hey, you deleted/salted Carolyn Joyce Carty back in January with references to an OTRS ticket (#2009011210025003). It's now reappeared (along with several other articles which seem to be connected: Library Week, Robert Louis Scharring-Hausen and Ella H. Scharring-Hausen). Superficially, they seem to be referenced, but the refs I've checked out doesn't seem to actually support the claims. They appear to me to be a fluff pieces of very marginal notability (if not flat out false, given the unreliable sourcing). Anyway, there was some kind of legal threat involved, so I thought I'd give you a chance to chime in before I do anything. Cheers, henrik  • talk  12:31, 14 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Meh, you don't seem to be too active these days - but who am I to complain? I'm not all that active either. I've taken them to AfD. henrik  • talk  15:55, 14 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry! I saw it and forgot to respond. AfD will be fine, the legal threat isn't an issue. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  14:44, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


 * No worries, it was just that I saw you hadn't edited for some days. :) henrik  • talk  19:53, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

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 * wikipedia loves art, i know i'm late - but are the prizes still around? (am i winner? i may be at this meetup Pohick2 (talk) 22:20, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Um....I don't really know. If I remember, the WLA team was in charge of that. You can ask Pharos there though, he'd know. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  02:45, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Martin
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Re : You may want to specify on the talk page what has to stay out of the article because in three months, likely no one is going to see your edit summary. -- Neil N   talk to me  23:26, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


 * It's nothing beyond BLP requirements; if the article is in crap condition in 3 months and we get more complaints about it we can address it again then. But hopefully people will start from the clean version that I put in, and then any BLP-violating edits can be identified and reverted. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  19:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

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 * I think it's been too long since the case for me to have anything to add. Frankly I don't remember much of anything about Bill Huffman. &rArr;  SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  17:21, 27 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks for the the response! 72.192.46.9 (talk) 17:33, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

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Hey, I created a page at GLAM/SI as a good central place for discussion of ideas of what we can offer to the Smithsonian at the Meetup meeting. You are pretty active in this sort of stuff in the DC area, so I thought you would be interested. Sadads (talk) 14:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)


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