User talk:Swimlej

Trivia
Please stop adding/restoring insignificant trivia to West Wing (or any other topic) articles. Trivia is unenyclopedic. Furthermore, your additions tend not to be cited to reliable sources, making it even more unlikely they will be removed. --EEMIV (talk) 18:20, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Fighting Chance
The content you are changing at Fighting Chance fails to assert notability through references to third-party sources. Additionally, it reads like an advertisement and is shoddily edited, down to the inappropriate addition of your signature at the end of the article. Please do not restore this content any more. I'm posting below a "welcome" template with links you should check out for guidelines to creating an encyclopedic entry at Wikipedia. --EEMIV (talk) 18:32, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

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 * Hi. You need to read the policies on reliable sources and notability. The longevity of the 501(c)3 compared to the song is irrelevant; what is relevant is whether the 501(c)3 is important enough to have garnered significant third-party coverage -- which your edits fail to establish. Additionally, the content you are adding/restoring reads like an advertisement, failing our policy on maintaining a neutral point of view. Furthermore, your edits are incorrectly formatted and structured for Wikipedia. Continuing to restore the material without addressing any of these concerns -- particularly after you received a talk-page notice here -- is disruptive and can lead to your editing privileges being blocked. I suggest you work on this content in user space -- e.g. at User:Swimlej/Fighting Chance -- and try to get it in line with Wikipedia's content requirement. There is no deadline; take your time and get it right, or at least get it in line with the basic requirements that I've repeatedly pointed you toward. I'll add User:Swimlej/Fighting Chance to my watchlist and will gladly help you with formatting and whatnot; finding sources, however, will be up to you. If you can get the article into such a condition that it adopts a neutral tone, is cited to reliable third-party sources that establish the topic's notability, and follows our style requirements, then we can deal with where to put it in relation to the content already in place. --EEMIV (talk) 20:49, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * PS: Per the big, yellow banner at the top of my talk page, because I initiated this conversation on your page, please respond here rather than on my talk page. Don't worry: I have your page on my watchlist and will see your comments/response.


 * Other PS: Continuing to restore the material about the 501(c)3 brings you close to violating our WP:3RR rule, which can lead to you being blocked. Let the current material sit and engage in conversation here, in keeping with WP:BRD. --EEMIV (talk) 20:51, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi - is there where you wanted me to respond? I would really appreciate your help with this entry, as I obviously do not understand why the references I have included are not reliable third party sources. I have read all of the information and am still confused. I would really like to make sure that I do this right and any other advice you can give me would be amazingly wonderful. I do have other sources, but wanted to make sure they were not too "local," for example newspaper articles written by local newspapers, etc. The references I used in the original entry were all national organizations and I thought that would be best. I do not want to violate terms, but really don't understand the mistakes I have made.

It sounds as though the first step would be to gather more third-party sources. Can you let me know what specifically I should look for? THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!!

Fighting Chance
I put a hatnote on Fighting Chance to show where your page is; you should also put on User:Swimlej/Fighting Chance and User talk:Swimlej/Fighting Chance now that they're no longer in use. That will alert an admin to delete them and avoid any confusion. --AndrewHowse (talk) 19:39, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

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