User talk:SwissVoice

October 2018
With good interntions and kind regards --194.230.127.76 (talk) 16:56, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You blocked user:SwissVoice on 14:49, 25 October 2018 for sock puppet and deleted its both posts at the AfD disk.
 * You also blocked user:0e7s aka 89.217.116.113 one day before, deleted all its contributions 0e7s and mass deleted its pages.
 * You also deleted this post 23:27, 22 October 2018 Sockpuppet investigations/PLO69:
 * “@Drmies: Advodiaboli study regarding journalist self-assessment was helpful for me. I also comment on AFD and other politically sensitive topics only as IP. currently too much black & white thinking. risk to get blackened is to high. e.g. why do you label their contribution here as "trolling about THE LIBERAL MEDIA" - in BOLD letters ?“
 * You did the blocking, deletion of all post and all pages, without any prior talk, notice or oportunity to take a stand. You are acting as prosecutor, judge and sanctionizer. Now you are supposed also to decide on my unblocking request.
 * 1) There was no harm intended nor done.
 * 2) I don’t see any harm of the posts on the socket investigation. Could you please restore it again?
 * 3) I don't know what I did wrong and would like to understand
 * 4) On what basis you block and delete all posts and pages?
 * 5) Can I "appeal" for an unblocking somewhere else (with a person not involved so far)?


 * Please consider unblocking based on post above. Sorry I thought that I am blocked everywhere. Kind regards from Switzerland. --SwissVoice (talk) 17:16, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm glad that study was helpful to you. This is Wikipedia, which is a website; there is no legal process involving a prosecutor or a judge and I am not sure why you would think that this is somehow a court of law. And no, I am not supposed to decide on your unblocking request; don't know where you got that from. All these edits were deleted per WP:DENY, of course. If you do not like that guideline, you can always a. stop socking; b. stop socking for six months; c. request an unblock; d. become a Wikipedia editor in good standing and modify that essay. In the meantime, any admin can look at Sockpuppet investigations/PLO69; even without Checkuser it is abundantly obvious that all these accounts make the same POV edits that attempt to put a party described by reliable as "fascist" in a sunnier light. Some, outside of Wikipedia, would call that kind of support for fascism revolting; here, we simply deal with policy, the policy of reliable sources. Your chatter about some comparison with Trump notwithstanding, ... no, there is no more. Just chatter., you saw the SPI, I assume--thanks. Drmies (talk) 17:33, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I did - it seemed convincing to me. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:44, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

decline oct 25, 2018
Kind regards, SwissVoice as IP --SwissVoice (talk) 20:44, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * There was no misuse of user:SwissVoice as a socket
 * I did in detail outline on User Page (that has been deleted by Drmies) that this is a socket account.
 * account marked in BOLD as socket
 * reasonig why as socket (sensitive topics & Privacy)
 * key interest areas (not a SPA)
 * see UP code abstract for details
 * Welcome to SwissVoice. This is my english account / socket for enWP. I joined deWP beginning of October, so I am new here but a seasoned personality in real life . I am interested and cover in deWP a broad range from democracy, human rights to populism and populistic parties (see list of key interests below). I made the experience that engaging in these topics can be quite dangerous for one´s account. If you point out NPOV or don't comply with mainstream opinion you are seen by some as an "enemy" - leading easyly to accusations like WP:SPA, WP:Honeypot surfing, etc. Therefore I prefer to engage in these topics as a socket. See list below for (active) sockets.
 * (active) accounts used in enWP
 * SwissVoice with contributions SwissVoice
 * user:0e7s aka IP 89.217.116.113
 * blocked & disk comments deleted by Drmies on 22.10. (see here, and below for contributions)
 * contributions 0e7s - full night of own page edits and disk on journalism & populistic parties
 * contributions IP 89.217.116.113 - only on sockpuppet investigations by Drmies
 * detailed Wiki Disclaimer (sad to need it, can provide details if needed)
 * I did not do any harm (from my perspective). Review my only 3 posts of SwissVoice:
 * User Page SwissVoice
 * Disk AfD: asking & reasons not to delete disk
 * Disk AfD: asking & reasons not to delete disk (incl. link to 2 secondary sources/news)
 * I always wanted & still want to constructivly contribute
 * spent today full day on my User Page outlining key interests, why socket (due to Privacy) and openly communcation all other accounts/contributions
 * all edits (handfull) done tranparently, civilized way and with detailed reasoning
 * same thing I did yesterday full day for my previous user:0e7s
 * I could easily bypass this block and start with a new account, but prefer to comply with essential WP Rules.
 * the WP concept and its rules/guidelines are wonderful and a reason why I started here
 * hope you see my good intentions and apply some of them e.g. 5P4, AGF, NOOB


 * from my perspective this is becomming a farce. I am in Wiki less than a month and only few days on enWP. User:Drmies blocked me without any talk/notice, deleted all my harmless edits (even my one harmless comment on the SPI/PLO69 related to AfD disk ) and also all my pages. From my perspective I have been blocked by user:Drmies with flimsy reason
 * first blocking of SwissVoice was violation of wp:TW - I still dont know what this is.
 * Drimies statements indicate a antipathy against AfD
 * AfD as Fascist by reliable sources
 * SPI started based on disk posts as trolling about LIBERAL MEDIA
 * Nevertheless I invest a lot of my free time & energy to decribe in detail in UP intention/key interests/etc .. and also for this now 3 unblocking requests here. As a noobie I am trying to get up to speed and comply as best as possible to the rules. But this is my first block & appeal process, so sorry that I don't know all the details. I was not able to edit the talk page of Drmies. I did not know that I could edit my talk page. Once I knew I did it here as SwissVoice providing a lot of details/arguments. Now you are denying it refering to EVADE. What about NPOV, P4 respect and civility, AGF and especially NOOB Do not bite the newcomers? --SwissVoice (talk) 22:23, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Your edits aren't harmless. You're whitewashing a fascist party. Last time I checked, having an antipathy against fascist parties was a good thing. I don't know how long you've been here; for now, it seems User:Tools4Men is your earliest one but who knows., I'm not sure when you looked at the SPI, but a few accounts have been added to it since yesterday, and a variety of blocks placed, and perhaps it's time to remove talk page access. PLO69, or Tools4Men, or whatever you'd like me to call you, don't ping me again or I will remove your access to this talk page myself. Drmies (talk) 03:34, 26 October 2018 (UTC)