User talk:Swokm

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, adding content without citing a reliable source is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. — TKD::Talk 22:32, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, Wikipedia entries themselves (or, for that matter, entries from any wiki) are not reliable sources, in the sense that Wikipedia requires. (See also Reliable sources/Examples for more details. And, yes, you're right; the information in the entry on Ringworld isn't verified either, so if someone wanted to contest it, it could, too, be removed for being unsourced. What we really need is something from a reliable game critic, news source, or perhaps even Bungie themselves that makes that connection explicitly. (Personally, I don't doubt that the connection might be there, but this sort of analysis, where nontrivial connections are made, can spiral out of control if left unchecked.) Eventually, over time, these sort of "could be true" statements pile up, it becomes a major effort to verify things.


 * Unfortunately, the majority of articles on Wikipedia do need better sourcing. There's been an effort lately among many editors to try to improve that, but it's still a monumental task. I personally am most wary of edits that introduce nontrivial connections or analysis (forms of "original research") because, often, especially in the video game world, they're the hardest things to actually find a reliable source for.


 * Halo is especially prone to these sort of edits because of the nontrivial storyline, plus the hype leading up to Halo 3s release soon. So, sorry if my message and/or reversion seemed a bit harsh. — TKD::Talk' 09:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, I just found a article for you that makes some connections: . So this is the type of source that could and should be cited when mentioning the connections between Halo  and Ringworld. If I had the time back when I undid your edit, I would've searched for the source in the first place rather than reverted it. — TKD::Talk 09:31, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * If I have a free moment later to fully read the whole thing, I'll even add the mention back in with the source, but feel free to do it yourself (or find an alternate source) if you want. — TKD::Talk 09:35, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I just took care of Halo (series): . And, yeah, finding proper sources isn't easy work sometimes. That's why less than 1 in 1200 articles is featured. — TKD::Talk 09:46, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, there can be a lot of stuff to wade through. Don't be discouraged! Have you seen Citing sources/example style? — TKD::Talk 11:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC)