User talk:Syboor

Yes, there is a guideline to this, Manual of Style (biographies), which says that header should mention "Nationality (In the normal case this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen or national, or was a citizen when the person became notable. Ethnicity should generally not be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability.) " I'm not going to fight you over it, but I don't think Nussbaum was notable for being Jewish, although of course his being Jewish can/should be mentioned in the entry, just not in the header of the article. :) Mad Jack 16:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, the problem with putting ethnicity in header is that it doesn't make sense. What does "Jewish German artist" mean? Does it mean he only made art relating to Jewish subject-matter? It's not particularly helpful. Things like the Star of David painting should be mentioned in the article, in fact, but they're not at the moment. Oh, and, no one is famous for just being Jewish, obviously. You can be famous for making films regarding Jewish subject matter, or being a Yiddish theatre actor, or surviving a concentration camp, but a person can't be famous simply because they are of a certain religion or ethnicity - only things they did that may have stemmed from that heritage Mad Jack 19:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, you needn't worry, for a large number of articles where I deleted the ethnicity I moved it on somewhere further down - especially when it was a larger article and there was space for it. One problem is that largely these ethnicity bits are uncited, and we sometimes get them wrong (obviously not in this case, but...) I fully support cited mentions of ethnicity in the article, preferably under "early life/background" section. As for "what's next" - well, I was hoping that sooner than later all our Wiki articles would fall under the Manual of Style and be consistant with each other. So I guess we'll see how it goes... Mad Jack 02:34, 11 September 2006 (UTC)