User talk:Sydnc7/Vowel shift

Elliott - Explain vowel shifts, palatalization, and raising. Basically define what we will be talking about in our sections.

Vowel-Shifting in the English Language : An Evolutionary Account - For basic introduction of vowel shift

The role of social factors in the dynamics of sound change: A case study of a Russian dialect - Russian vowel shift - Some vowel shifting happening in Russia

Samantha - Southern American English

https://www.pbs.org/speak/ahead/change/changin/

https://www.babbel.com/en/magazine/united-states-of-accents-southern-american-english — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alyeska20 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

-History

-Geography

-Characteristics

-Perceptions

Sydney - Northern Cities Vowel Shift
 * https://jhavenhill.com/papers/HavenhillICPhS2015.pdf
 * https://www.isca-speech.org/archive/sp2010/papers/sp10_519.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sydnc7 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Jenna - California English Vowel Shift subsection

-Northern California Vowel Shift

-Bay Area Vowel Shift

---influence of the gay identity on vowels

-Chicano English

-Generational phonological change

-chain shift

California influence on surrounding areas

---Northern Arizona; Nevada — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jen35n (talk • contribs) 23:32, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Canadian Shift
Selicia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seliciafield (talk • contribs) 00:34, 27 February 2020 (UTC) https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/language-variation-and-change/article/producing-and-perceiving-the-canadian-vowel-shift-evidence-from-a-montreal-community/A45A2F348CBC7AA652035F17177AFE30/core-reader

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0075424219831353 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seliciafield (talk • contribs) 00:11, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Jenny

Motive for language change https://web-a-ebscohost-com.ezproxy.uta.edu/ehost/ebookviewer/ebook?sid=894fd737-984c-4cd5-a720-624ffe733b61%40sessionmgr4007&vid=0&format=EB

Phonological history of English vowels - A modern English Grammar on Historical Principles: Sounds and Spellings (Otto Jespersen) -Internal and external Motivation and Phonetics change (etorgersen)

Peer Reviews
I think that your article looks great right now! I took a look and immediately edited our article so that the outline was as clear as y'alls outline. It would be nice to have the lead included in your draft page so that you can easily get a good gist of what your article is about without switching from one article to another. It looks like you have a variety of sources for each section in your article which is awesome! I think that we need to find more sources that pertain to each section. Overall, it's looking good! JamesBethany (talk) 00:47, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

I think your outline looks really good! I think that it is a really good idea to outline in your draft who is responsible for which portion, which you guys did and I think that will help you keep track of everything more easily. I would agree with the above review that having a lead in your outline may make it more efficient when working through your outline. I think a good idea would be to have a lot of detail about each of the examples of vowel shift, not necessarily in your outline but in the article in general. I think that the original article lacks examples and that is an area that you can really expand on. Great job so far! AshlieDevenney (talk) 03:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

The outline looks like it's going to produce a nice article with plenty of examples of Vowel Shifting over various languages. Something that I think may help with this article is providing the vowel parallelogram as an image in each of the sections and showing how the vowels that have shifted shifted and where they moved to, maybe a before and after picture, or just an arrow to indicate the new position of the vowels. This, I think, would assist in readers knowing where the vowels have gone and help rationalize some of the explanations that you give for the shifts. Also, it may help in identifying patterns that occur among the various kinds of shifts if there exist any. Perhaps that could be a section on its own- patterns among the vowel shifts. Timex174 (talk) 07:17, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Everything you have included in your outline looks great! Everything is relevant and well organized. You might also want to briefly touch on historical vowel shifts, like the great vowel shift in English. You could also try and find popular or well known cases of vowel shift from languages besides English. I would also encourage you to doublecheck that some of these sections don't already have a wikipedia page. For example:Northern Cities Vowel Shift You might want to talk about how a vowel shift occurs, besides just specific instances. I think that building your lead around this would be most effective. Besides that, your outline is comprehensive and your sources so far look good! Best of luck! Cesayvonne (talk) 03:38, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

I do like how everything is sectioned off ready for more information. Sources are sectioned out as to not confuse yourself on "what does this source go with what again?" I understand this is not just an English language phenomenon. I know you have a Russian section, and stated before in other reviews, look at other languages. Even a section talking about vowel merging (though that may not be area covered by this topic). Even just a section of similar topics may be beneficial to the future reader of the article. I assume that that lead is being made in the "vowel shift" section. Even just a rough "lead" section for this edit may help out. all in all, it looks great. Best of luck with this (TexShisno (talk) 18:37, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

I am very impressed by how much content you already have in your draft! I like how you organized the different types of vowel shifts from different areas. Though the introduction hasn't been completed yet, I think you're going in a good direction by writing your idea of what should go in the introduction. One thing I would suggest is to add a section talking about the people who first came up with the concept of vowel shift. I think one thing we could do to improve our draft right now is to add in each section what we plan to talk about like you did. Overall, it looks great! Sheppyshepp111 (talk) 18:49, 30 March 2020 (UTC)