User talk:Syennesis

Your edits to a.o. Bithynia
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September 2008
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Bithynia has been reverted. Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove unwanted links and spam from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. The external links I reverted were matching the following regex rule(s): rule: '\basiaminorcoins\.com\b' (link(s): http://www.asiaminorcoins.com/gallery/index.php?cat=6).

If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! XLinkBot (talk) 07:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia.

Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove unwanted links and spam from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. The external links I reverted were matching the following regex rule(s): rule: '\basiaminorcoins\.com\b' (link(s): http://www.asiaminorcoins.com/gallery/index.php?cat=11).

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Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove unwanted links and spam from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. The external links I reverted were matching the following regex rule(s): rule: '\basiaminorcoins\.com\b' (link(s): http://www.asiaminorcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=17).

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Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove unwanted links and spam from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. The external links I reverted were matching the following regex rule(s): rule: '\basiaminorcoins\.com\b' (link(s): http://www.asiaminorcoins.com/gallery/index.php?cat=8).

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Hi, yes, that is not the point. Wikipedia is NOT a linkfarm, we are an encyclopedia. If you can add content to the article, and use the link as a reference, that may be more appropriate. Please discuss this with an appropriate wikiproject (see WikiProject). --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

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Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove unwanted links and spam from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. The external links I reverted were matching the following regex rule(s): rule: '\basiaminorcoins\.com\b' (link(s): http://www.asiaminorcoins.com/gallery/index.php?cat=18).

If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! XLinkBot (talk) 07:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Expand discussion, please answer here
I had a look, and will explain :


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You add a link about coins to a page about a region and add that link to the top of the list. That link is there not a legitimate link, as the page is about a region, not about coins. And, as also stated above, we are not a linkfarm or an internet directory. Per the external links guideline, which is also linked above numerous times, you should try to use the link as a reference, if possible. Therefore I am bringing a halt to these link additions until you read our policies and guidelines (as linked above in the welcome template), and discuss the edits with editors, e.g. via a wikiproject (see WikiProject), or via the edit history of some of the pages, where you can find regular editors on the subjects. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:51, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Dear Dirk... thanks for that. I did read your policies, and I feel that the links I added are totally within your policies. I am not trying to spam, and if you just look at the links, you will understand that they are directly on point of the article -- and yes, they are about coins... ancient coins from that specific region of Anatolia, the history of which is described in the article... I am sorry if I tried to put the links on top, you can put them on the bottom if you want. But I am just trying to better your site with relevant information about these ancient regions and their history (of which coins are an essential part).

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Dear Dirk... thanks for that. I did read your policies, and I feel that the links I added are totally within your policies. I am not trying to spam, and if you just look at the links, you will understand that they are directly on point of the article -- and yes, they are about coins... ancient coins from that specific region of Anatolia, the history of which is described in the article... I am sorry if I tried to put the links on top, you can put them on the bottom if you want. But I am just trying to better your site with relevant information about these ancient regions and their history (of which coins are an essential part).

Also, the only reason I got to this website in the first place is because YOU ALREADY HAVE 3 LINKS TO MY WEBSITE EXACTLY AS I HAVE ADDED.

Please see - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%22ASIA+MINOR+COINS%22&go=Go


 * No, they are not in the point of the article. The links would be appropriate on the page Anatolian coins or Coins of Anatolia, but not on Anatolia.  That is the point of item 13 in WP:ELNO.  If we allow this link on Anatolia, then also http://www.dogsofanatolia.com, http://www.housesofanatolia.com, http://www.hatsofanatolia.com etc. etc. can be added, and we are writing an encyclopedia, not a linkfarm.
 * However, if there would e.g. be a section about trading in the article Anatolia, and that would specifically talk about that Anatolia had its own coins, and your site would attribute that statement, then your site could be a welcome reference (see the citation guideline).
 * I hope this explains, and maybe you are interested in WikiProject_Numismatics. --Dirk Beetstra T  C 08:24, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Regarding you last addition (well). I see we had 6 links already.  Three of them were of the type you were adding, and as such also inappropriate (and I removed those as well).  The other three were exactly of the type that I was mentioning, though two of the statements are a bit loose in those points, they don't really fit ('oh, they also minted their own coins', yeah, and what is special about that?), but Hierapolis is a good example.  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 08:34, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Uhm, OK well -

1. I did not add any links prior to my last attempts... I was directed here from my stats page, since links to my site were already posted here. I merely duplicated what I saw, which I thought was appropriate since you chose to post it long ago. Now, you are apparently deleting content that was previously approved... what's up? this seems a bit revisionist.

2. You obviously have no idea about the history of the cities and regions (the links for which you deleted), if you make comments like 'oh, they also minted their own coins', yeah, and what is special about that?'  The coins are the only direct "reference" to what your article describes. The links I posted show the coins from each region and, as such, it is like a slide show of history for those regions.

3. I feel it is better to say generally (for purposes of your "articles") that "coins were minted" in each of these Regions, than what you pointed out as being "a good example" -

"Hierapolis - A temple was raised to Apollo Lairbenos, the principal god of Hierapolis, during the Hellenistic period (as can be seen on coins from Hierapolis). [7] [Coins of Hierapolis] - link

The link to the coins on my website have no Hellenistic coins showing Apollo Lairbenos (only late Roman). And which Hierapolis is the article about? There are several - Hierapolis and Hieropolis... Phrygian or Cilician? Anyways, do you want to delete this now too?

What would you like me to do as far as submitting links? Please, just tell me what is acceptable as an external link or note. Thanks. Syennesis (talk) 09:15, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, we are getting somewhere. What I meant with the comment like 'oh, they also minted their own coins' was that that is nothing too special, many regions minted their own coins at some time.  There must be more to tell about it, but the statement that is there is a good beginning (things that would make the statement better were when, which material (and that may be very region specific) etc.), and when you would start with adding that with a reference to the site, I would have less problems (or even no problems) with the additions.
 * I should by the way now also point you to our conflict of interest guideline. Editing with a conflict of interest does not have to be a problem, as long as you are discussing when problems do occur or editors revert an edit of you.  It would be nice to seek contact with people in the wikiproject about you and your site, in that case they may help you further.
 * I hope this all explains, if you have further questions, don't hesitate to contact me, and happy editing! --Dirk Beetstra T  C 09:44, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * By the way, I have removed the revertrule from XLinkBot, so it should not bother you further, now. The other 6 lnks were added by 2 IPs (doing only that) and 3 regular, established accounts.  Hope this helps.  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 09:51, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Dirk ... thanks much, I'll be sure to add the blah-blah next time :) I figure people can just click if they want to know about coins (and I have little time to contribute), but I appreciate your guidance and yes, I will try to provide more info.  Regards ... Dimitry Syennesis (talk) 10:19, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Dimitry. It is true that people can just click the link, but that is outside of the scope of what wikipedia is trying to accomplish, we are trying to write an encyclopedia here, not an internet directory.  And if you have 10 minutes to add links to say 30 pages, you would also have had 10 minutes to add content to one page, and the latter is what makes this project grow.  Happy editing!  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 11:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)