User talk:Sylviecyn/ Archive 3

Good thoughts
I hope the short wikibreak does well by you and you returned refreshed. Sometimes a battery recharge and reset of perspective can be quite helpful. Tell me if you spot any lovely or rare birds. :) Be well! Vassyana 18:33, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Archive formatting
Hi Syviecyn. Just wanted you to know that the formatting on the second page of your talk archive has lost all its paragraph threading. Hope you can get it fixed. Revera 11:07, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Report
You may wish to comment at the Conflict of interest/Noticeboard, I see that you have raised concerns in the past regarding the specific nature of a potential Conflict of Interest Issue regarding. Smee 05:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC).
 * Note

No legal threats
Regarding your comment: This is a legal matter of libel and defamation of my character by you, for which you are now also causing Wikpedia to carry the libel you produce, because of your willful actions here, because Wikpedia, on which you are chosing to libel me, is bound to follow the letter of the libel and slander laws of the State of Flordia, in the United States in which Wikipedia's server resides -- not wherever it is that you now live or from where the server of your website originates.

Your recent edits could give editors of Wikipedia the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Wikipedia itself. Please note that this is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a genuine dispute with the Community or its members, please use dispute resolution. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 18:38, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Completely off-topic
Have you caught sight of any notable birds in the past few weeks? :) Vassyana 12:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Birding question
I live in the Western New York/Southern Ontario area and I saw a bright scarlet bird, with slightly darker wings, that had no crest. It is about the size of a jay or cardinal. Any idea what that might be? Also, I caught sight a gorgeous blue jay this morning!! Be well! Vassyana 12:26, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks! :o) Vassyana 16:13, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk pages... and talk pages
Hi Cynthia, please could you have a look at this: User talk:Jossi, regarding your comment earlier today on the Prem Rawat talk page. I mean, that was probably not something that could easily be sorted out on the talk page of an encyclopedia article.

Isn't there somewhere else more suitable to address the issues that obviously bother you? Jossi's talk page, or the talk page of his "response" page. I've been having some talks with Jossi today on Jimbo's talk page (User talk:Jimbo Wales), but I don't know whether it would be up to me to invite someone else to go to that page to try to sort things out. --Francis Schonken (talk) 00:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Prem Rawat 1RR probation
Per the discussion at Administrators' noticeboard, the articles now in category:Prem Rawat are on special 1RR and disruption probation. A notice describing the probation is at talk:Prem Rawat. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 22:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Arbcom case
Hi Sylviecyn,

An arbitration case has been initiated by Jossi: Requests for arbitration.

At the Prem Rawat talk page PatW was wondering why you hadn't been listed as a party (see Talk:Prem Rawat). Would you be interested? --Francis Schonken (talk) 22:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm listing you now. --Francis Schonken (talk) 03:07, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Prem Rawat
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Requests for arbitration/Prem Rawat/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Requests for arbitration/Prem Rawat/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, John Vandenberg (talk) 02:47, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Per your statement
Saw your statement on the Prem Rawat case - per WP:OUTING, the revealing of off-wiki personal information of Wikipedians is not permitted and is seen by Wikipedia as a form of harassment. Therefore, any administrator can remove the personal information and in extreme cases the oversight people can be asked to purge it from the database (although this is probably not desirable while the arbitration case is proceeding as the arbitrators may wish to treat the diffs as evidence). If any information of this type still exists about yourself, and you wish me to remove it, please let me know where to find it. If you are uncomfortable posting this information on a Wikipedia talk page, you are welcome to email me at orderinchaos78 at gmail.com - any material sent to me privately will be treated in confidence. Orderinchaos 04:15, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, no worries - I had misunderstood the issue. Thanks for the clarification. I had concluded at the time that the statement from the other user is not "evidence" in any sense that the ArbCom could reasonably consider, and seems to be a set of personal opinions and allegations, and if it were me I wouldn't respond either. Orderinchaos 19:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Prem Rawat ArbCom dealie...
I may not have been clear in my response, or I was unclear reading your response after that, but I was actually defending your position regarding jossi's attempt at characterizing your questions as special pleading, I felt that his argument was a red herring, not yours by any means. -- Mael e fique (t a lk)|undefined 03:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Some advice
I don't know what to make of Jossi. At first I thought it was conspiracy theorism, but after seeing actual edit counts, I was a bit disturbed.

Some advice: Your ArbCom case is doomed to failure, obviously, even if you're correct. Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy, a democracy, an anarchy, but rather, it's all three, which means it's governed by a series of overlapping, nepotistic kangaroo courts.

When you write long posts like this, nobody is going to read it. They will simply roll their eyes, consider it trolling, then type "strong keep, teh nominador is a trole," and move on.

However, don't worry about it too much. Jossi isn't important and Prem Rawat will inevitably fade into obscurity.

Don't take Wikipedia so seriously or it will eat you alive. For more, see User:Zenwhat/Stay sane &#9775; Zenwhat (talk) 17:51, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Prem Rawat
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. Evidence presented did not disclose a history of problematic editing, in terms of basic content policy, by Jossi, and the Committee commended Jossi's self-imposed restriction to edit only talk pages for Prem Rawat related articles. Due to a history of incivility and personal attacks surrounding articles related to the Prem Rawat movement, the preexisting community enforced one-revert rule on Prem Rawat and related articles that commenced March 4, 2008, has been superceeded by Arbitration Committee enforced article probation. John Vandenberg (chat) 00:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-04-20 Divine Light Mission
Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-04-20 Divine Light Mission has become active. Your participation is required to make it a success. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 22:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Be nice
Or at least don't be nasty. Edit summaries like this aren't necessary.. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 17:49, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:AE Notice
AE ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 19:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Please take care when editing
Sylviecyn, a recent report at Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration enforcement highlighted your recent contributions (viz., ) to Talk:Criticism of Prem Rawat, which is subject to Requests for arbitration/Prem Rawat.

Further to discussion there, this post should be construed as a final warning regarding conduct on controversial article talk pages, such as Criticism of Prem Rawat's. Such talk pages are particularly prone to heated discussion, and unprofessional comments such as that linked are not helpful. In future, please strive to comment diplomatically and civilly, and bear in mind that Prem Rawat and related articles are subject to article probation (see this sub-section of the Prem Rawat case). Future incivilities may be met with bans from the article and/or article talk page in question.

Thank you for your continued contributions, but please be wary of the volatile nature of such talk page, and be cautioned against future disruption: if uncomfortable truths require to be said, phrase them diplomatically and professionally.

Anthøny 18:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey there
Please have a look at my reply. Thanks, Steve Crossin   (contact)  12:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Some ppl might think that was funny...
"It's not a matter of belief, it's obvious to any third grader.", I almost snorted out my coffee when I read that. Honestly, I don't try and antagonize ppl, but I might have a problem with ppl not seeing the obvious. :) -- Mael e fique (t a lk)|undefined 17:16, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Civility
Please remember that civility is a requirement, not an option, and that this topic is on ArbCom probation. Comment on the edits, not the editors. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 20:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Request for mediation accepted
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