User talk:Syoakum1

September 2022
Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contribution(s). I am glad to see that you are discussing a topic. However, as a general rule, while user talk pages permit a small degree of generaliation, other talk pages are strictly for discussing the topic of their associated main pages and many of them have special instructions on the top. They are not a general discussion forum about unrelated topics. If you have questions or ideas and are not sure where to post them, consider asking at the Teahouse. Thanks. MrOllie (talk) 01:07, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments. Such edits are disruptive, and may appear to other editors to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Thank you. MrOllie (talk) 01:15, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, you may be blocked from editing. MrOllie (talk) 01:25, 29 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I havent deleted any further comments from anything at this point. Thank you Syoakum1 (talk) 01:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The article history does not lie. You must stop changing and deleting other people's comments, as well as inserting your personal opinions into Wikipedia articles. Wikipedia follows the sources. MrOllie (talk) 01:30, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It is not true. Please stop allowing people to rewrite history. Latinos did NOT CREATE breakdancing or hip hop culture. This was created by Black Americans who allowed them to be apart of it. This is disguisting that you are even arguing about this. Latinos called hip hop "jungle music" yet appropriated the culture. Syoakum1 (talk) 01:41, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * These are not personal opinions. These are FACTS. This is MY culture and its not okay for it to be discredited. I would be more than happy to cite sources as well. Thank you Syoakum1 (talk) 01:43, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * This is you adding your personal opinion directly to an article. And this is you writing your own comments above someone else's signature. Neither of these things are acceptible on Wikipedia. MrOllie (talk) 01:56, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * This comment was literally in response to the message you sent me... you must be a latino who thinks they have a part in hiphop and break dancing cultures creation. LOL. Again please stop sending me messages. I havent edited anything else in atleast 10-15min. Im confused. Syoakum1 (talk) 01:58, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * If you continue as you have been, your account will be blocked very soon. MrOllie (talk) 01:59, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * But youre deleting my comments and then telling me not to delete others? Got it. Syoakum1 (talk) 02:06, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Why did you delete my comments? I stopped deleting other edits so please let me know why my comments are being deleted? Syoakum1 (talk) 02:07, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You have been overwriting other people's comments with your own, that is the problem. MrOllie (talk) 02:10, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I have only overwritten comments on the talk page. But the actual wiki page for DJ Kool Herc lists inaccurate information. He did not create hip hop. He had made contributions and was certainly a part of it but he is not the father of Hip Hop and was not even a rapper. He appropriated American culture. He was not born in America. Hip hop is an American culture.....These are not opinions rather logical facts. Syoakum1 (talk) 02:13, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Here is another video of DJ Kool Herc himself confirming that he was imitating James Brown
 * https://twitter.com/BlackPowerBA/status/1256777489042550786?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1256777489042550786%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url= Syoakum1 (talk) 02:18, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * For the edit you stated which is my "opinion" here are the facts:
 * https://allhiphop.com/headlines/zulu-nation-says-dj-kool-herc-did-not-start-hip-hop-and-is-misrepresenting-the-culture/#:~:text=DJ%20Kool%20Herc%20is%20one,Bronx%20on%20August%2011%2C%201973.
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8cIfqvU0V4&t=1032s
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjh1N79hz_Y Syoakum1 (talk) 02:11, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:RS for what makes for a reliable source. Youtube videos and reposted press releases are not reliable sources. MrOllie (talk) 02:16, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Does the video count if it is the person themself in the video confirming that they were influenced by other American artists? That would be a primary source since it is coming from the person themselves... Thats also hypocritical because there arent any credible sources confirming that DJ Kool Herc created hip hop because there are several sources that refute this. Including his own words. Syoakum1 (talk) 02:20, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * you also made it a point to completely ignore the first credible source and skipped ot the youtube links. convenient. Syoakum1 (talk) 02:20, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Youtube videos and reposted press releases are not reliable sources. MrOllie (talk) 02:22, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * What about the initialy article I posted detailing that DJ Kool Herc is not the father of hiphop? Why isnt this being addressed? Syoakum1 (talk) 03:18, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * All of these sources clearly outline that MC Coke La Rock is the first MC in hip hop to be credited. DJ Kool Herc was not a rapper and emulated the existing sound in American music.
 * https://allhiphop.com/headlines/zulu-nation-says-dj-kool-herc-did-not-start-hip-hop-and-is-misrepresenting-the-culture/#:~:text=DJ%20Kool%20Herc%20is%20one,Bronx%20on%20August%2011%2C%201973.
 * https://allhiphop.com/features/coke-la-rock-hip-hops-first-mc-tells-his-crazy-life-stories-when-kool-herc-was-stabbed-why-he-deserves-more/
 * https://thesource.com/2020/02/01/source-bhm-month-coke-la-rock/ Syoakum1 (talk) 03:38, 29 September 2022 (UTC)