User talk:TJ Spyke/Archive 15

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most watched match on Wrestlemania III page
quite new to Wikipedia here so still a bit shaky with the edit process and what not - but check the Dick Beyer (aka The Destroyer) page here which lists 70 million TV viewers for his match with Rikidozan in 1963. it's on any number of messageboards and whatnot as well, unfortunately there aren't too many pages around that cater to actual wrestling historians...but do your research, google around, and you'll see. It's actually disputed among historians as to whether the Thesz/Rikidozan match or the Destroyer/Rikidozan match is the most watched - Thesz match had a higher audience percentage rating (89.0 rating!) but the Destroyer match a few years later took place when there were more television sets. one link claiming the Destroyer match is the most watched of all time is Either way they both outdo The Main Event Hogan/Andre by a significant margin. LunaSlave (talk) 12:10, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

most TV viewers for a wrestling match
I see that LunaSlave has already gotten to you, but I wanted to respond as well. I won't change the WrestleMania III page, because I've seen how the people there dislike Meltzer, but here is a quote & source for the most watched wrestling match:

From Dave Meltzer's Tributes II, p. 228, talking about 10/7/57's Lou Thesz v. Rikidozan match:

"More importantly, everyone in the country watched the match on television. The company that was handling ratings at the time measured it as an 87.5 rating, making it, by far, the highest-rated television show ever in Japan, and blowing away any television show in history ever in the United States."

So, you're from Rochester too, huh? What do you think the chances are that we can get ROH to put on a show here?

Thanks! MookieZ (talk) 14:51, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Reply
I have no idea. I just added a quickee rationale so the image wouldn't be immediately deleted. I figured a source could be added later. -- Scorpion0422 16:49, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

WrestleMania 23 and talk page archives
It went 2 days without that section and no one re-added it back. Seeing as you are the only one re-adding it, people don't care. Stop thinking you own the article, and leave it be. Also, talk page archives are to be left alone and not edited. Don't fix spelling mistakes or other errors in them. RobJ1981 (talk) 19:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * RJ, fixing spelling mistakes is not a big deal; archives aren't strictly off-limits. Also, TJ's right about a consensus on the WM 23 article. That was a comparatively large dispute at the time, so it cannot simply be overruled by you. if you want a new discussion, then that's fine, but reverting and declaring it useless simply can't cut it.  The Hybrid   T / C   22:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Za
Uh, because za is the Japanese transliteration for "the" into their language. If the title was actually "Mario & Sonic at the Beijing Olympics", then the original title would be マリオ&ソニック AT ザ北京オリンピック. However, the actual title doesn't have ザ, so a straight translation shouldn't have the "the". ' 04:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help!
Thank You for the help on the No Way Out (2004) article, as I am busy with that and the List of WWE Hardcore Champions article.-- Tr U cO 93 11 (talk) 22:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

List of WWE PPV's
I have NO idea how to make a citation, even with reading that. Can you do it for me? It's a special calendar insert that comes in the special WWE Magazine entitiled "The Greatest Moments in Pay-Per-View history". I just can't make heads or tails of the WP: CITE thing you gave me. WestJet (talk) 22:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Wrestling Pay-Per-View Events
So should I put all the PPV's into 1 sortable table, or break it into sections (and if so how? i.e. like by promotion or "current" and "former".-- Tr U cO 93 11 (talk) 22:55, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, that will look so great. Well are we going to include Ring of Honor? If so may you locate them for me. =] Tr U cO 93 11 (talk) 23:09, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * So when you say include them with the others you mean like creathing another section entitled "Other Promotions", and the make a table there?-- Tr U cO 93 11 (talk) 23:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok now for the refs, what kind of references do I add, like ones that prove the event was/is real?-- Tr U cO 93 11 (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * So does it look gud? (already know about the misspelled word)-- Tr U cO 93 11 (talk) 00:47, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Should we add color to the tables or not? Also, do you think that SNME should be there?-- Tr U cO 93 11 (talk) 01:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. Its done NOW!..Just need refs but go check it out! Tr U cO 93 11 (talk) 01:44, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:Image question
I have re-added the missing fair use rationale tag. I also left a note on his talk page, so hopefully, he'll heed my advice. Nishkid64 (talk) 02:49, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Dec. 3 deletion
RobJ deleted the Dec. 3 info. I think he's gonna keep a very close eye on the talk page, so I'm not sure we can post info anymore. Is there any way to prove him that those will be the games. Oh, he also said that this is not a fansite. Neo Samus 22:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't bother trying to talk him out of his "policy nazi" mode. Rob's a stubborn guy, and even if these games do come out on Monday, there's no real way of proving that our source didn't just get lucky at guessing. Again. Can I just have a link to the place you get this information, TJ? That way I won't have to rely on the talk page anymore. Thanks in advance! -Thores 23:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * . Neo, i'm not sure if Rob will ever admit he is wrong (he is very stubborn and doesn't back down unles there is an overwhelming consensus against him).  TJ   Spyke   00:36, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Even when there is an overwhelming consensus against him its never stopped him. Sigh.  Well if anything we'll hold off posting about dec. 3 and just wait till next week.  Neo Samus 01:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)   EDIT: Never mind.  You posted it again. LOL!
 * I've already said that I was a bit annoyed at having that on the talk page, even if we have a lot of reason to believe that it's true. I actually really like the information, I only want to be careful. I know Rob is a pain. We've had tons of problems with Rob. And he sure knows how to quote policy, but not how to follow it. --LN3000 04:30, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The December 3 section doesn't belong, as it's speculation from an unreliable source. Stop re-adding it. As for the rude comments: knock it off. Comment about the article, not editors. This behaviour isn't needed. RobJ1981 23:31, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not speculation. It's confirmed information from a reliable source. He gets the PR release early so he can write reviews and have them ready to post on Monday morning.  TJ   Spyke   23:46, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

WP:PW newsletter
The newsletter is ready for proofreading. We are likely not to have any current events this week. T he  C hronic  00:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Wrestlemania X8
Hmmm... the link must not be working well now... try doing a "Wayback Machine" search on www.wrestlemania.com and click on any of the dates after March 18, 2002. Then look through the Resuslts and see that they call him Hollywood Hulk Hogan, not just Hulk Hogan. Here's the link for the search:

And here's the link for the Rock/Hogan match result in case it works now: (Hopefully it will.) --Andresg770 23:35, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Royal Rumble
I never added that it was from WWE.com, someone else must have edited it. Vinyldestination (talk)
 * Yeah, I noticed after I already left you the message.  TJ   Spyke   00:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Cardinals proposal
It was silly of me to set up two surveys & discussions. Is ok with you if I delete both our votes at Talk:Cardinal, & just link to the other survey? Johnbod 23:40, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I don't want to alter the templates now, so I'll just leave a link - same difference I think. Johnbod 00:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Comment
Calling me stubborn, as well as your false claims here: User_talk:Neo_Samus aren't needed. You need to work on articles, instead of attacking me and just assuming bad faith. You say I'm harassing you, but you are the one that is more to blame here. You need to just leave me the hell alone, and stop talking about me on talk pages just to make me look bad. Wikipedia is for editing and discussing articles, not bashing and insulting others. RobJ1981 00:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

No Way Out
I let that one through because it appeared to just be moving it to the correct line. My bad. Mshake3 23:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Friendly tip
You really should avoid calling users edits vandalism when it isn't. WP:PW changes it's mind on issues so often that it is hard to keep track and I thought that after all of the hoopla over Vengeance that we weren't supposed to add matches until both participants were announced. -- Scorpion0422 03:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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TNA Turning Point Knockouts Tag Finish
I don't have a play-by-play source that mentions the Russian legsweep, but unless you're looking at an official statement/recap from TNA, a play-by-play that neglects to mention the Russian legsweep doesn't change what you can actually see with your own eyes. I'm assuming your source is a play-by-play that was written while the match took place, so it's perfectly possible that the writer just wasn't paying attention or didn't notice. Unless I am incorrect about the nature of your source, I recommend you watch the match yourself to see how you interpret the match and the finish. -WikiFew (talk) 02:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Meltzer makes mistakes too and could have easily missed out on what exactly happened in the finish; you can't deny that possibility. I still recommend that you watch the match for yourself and see how you interpret the finish. If you don't have access to the match, it's up on sites like YouTube or Dailymotion. -WikiFew (talk) 02:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Nigel McGuinness
TJ Spyke, I have opened up an ArbCom request regarding Nigel McGuinness and have included you because you have contributed substantially to the debate at hand. It can be found at Requests_for_arbitration Reswobslc (talk) 00:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Admin
Hi. I just wondered if you'd consider letting me nominate you for adminship, as I think you're experienced enough. Thanks. Epbr123 (talk) 00:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

hey
Depends on what logo you are talking about. To the best of my knowledge there is only two logos classic and additude. Is there 3?LifeStroke420 (talk) 04:37, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

This is because they are for sure gonna have the rumble match. It doesnt say who is in it just that its for sure gonna happen. Also the wwf logo deal is no difference its still technically the classic logo.LifeStroke420 (talk) 04:51, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

SmackDown! GM
SmackDown! Just started for me (West coast time here) and Theodore Long was just announced as the "Executive General Manager". No mention of being assistant GM. Interestingly enough though, Vickie was also referred to as GM. What do you think should be done here?-- bullet proof  3:16 04:09, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Because the other ref was a review of the event, which really wasn’t appropriate for the note we were trying to cite. The other ref is a recap article that also cites the note without any irrelevant analysis (to the note).-- bullet proof  3:16 04:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... SD! is online already XD… Ahh gotta love the internet. Just watched the beginning portion of SmackDown! and Theodore was announced as Assistant GM. Must have heard wrong then. -- bullet proof  3:16 04:58, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

World Wrestling Federation
Umm... on that mass of changes when you worked around a redirect page at "World Wrestling Federation"... do you know you made a typo in there? I mean "World Wrestling Federtation"?? :) Tabercil (talk) 14:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

NeoGAF
Hey I was reading through the Thread where Jsnake posts about the upcoming VC titles and your name showed banned under it. Did you put that there or did you really get banned? Neo Samus (talk) 23:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow that's weird. Well I posted the info on the VC talkpage, but I didn't include the actual titles.  Ghost 'N Goblins (NES), Baseball Stars 2 (NEOGEO) and Pokemon Snap are coming out on Monday.  Neo Samus (talk) 00:23, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

spyke,

do you have email or aol instant messenger?

raginclimax —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raginclimax (talk • contribs) 01:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

WWE Raw XV Anniversary
Actually the WWE/WWF uses Roman Numerals in place of regular numbers, for their events. Much like the NFL does for the Super Bowl. for proof of this check out their logo, for tonights show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Subman758 (talk • contribs) 04:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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WP:PW newsletter
Newsletter = proofreading. T he  C hronic  06:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, could you post the Jake Roberts thing on the draft for me (I don't know how to word it)? Thanks. T he   C hronic  07:21, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Wait, drug rehab. Is that correct? T he  C hronic  07:36, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. I reworded the sentence a bit. Does that help? T he   C hronic  07:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

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comma deletion
What was the purpose of edits like ? Double Blue (Talk) 17:39, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I was unaware of that. MOS:DATE ought to be updated to reflect that. Double Blue  (Talk) 12:17, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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TNA Final Resolution 2008
You contributed to TNA Final Resolution 2008 page after I have made contributions. The script for the January 3rd edition of TNA Impact! is leaked online to the Internet. It reveals everything that happens on the January 3rd edition of TNA Impact! If you don't believe me, you need to go online and look for yourself. It's not a rumor; it's the truth. The script has been leaked. For proof, go to this website right here: http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/specials/impact103.pdf

If you need to talk to me about anything else concerning this, please send me a message. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eaglebanks (talk • contribs) 02:11, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

ROH 5th PPV
Do you want to wait 4 hours for Gabe Sapolsky to post it on the main website? Nenog (talk) 05:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Impact vs RAW
Reading from your comments, I believe that you don't realize that Impact is taped and RAW is aired live. If something happens at the last minute on Raw, they have to keep on going with the program. If something happens at the last minute on Impact, they can edit it so the viewers at home don't see their mistakes. Why you think I watch Raw and not Impact? I have to watch Raw to know what's going on, but I can just look up the spoilers for Impact. I respect the rule about not putting stuff on here until it airs live, but I am right about the situation.

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Your PPV win percent subpage
I'm strongly considering putting it back in MFD. I've seen no proof you actually want to make it into an article. As I've stated before: Wikipedia isn't a webhosting service. A few minor attempts at making it an article simply aren't enough. It either needs to be an article, or should be deleted. Putting a timeframe on things isn't completely correct here, however the page just sits with nothing done to it. RobJ1981 (talk) 07:05, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Asking someone to put your original research on their site is one thing. But this is Wikipedia, it's purpose isn't to use a subpage for other internet work that is done. WIA is a glorified fansite in my view, and it's a bit shady they just accept any random person's work. Just like Obsessed with Wrestling (or whatever it's called now): accepting just about any random work shows the site shouldn't be used as a reliable source. I don't see why the record is such a big deal. Wikipedia isn't your personal sandbox for non-article content. Simply save it in a word document or whatever, and leave it at that. It's original research at best, period. RobJ1981 (talk) 06:15, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

WP:PW interview
You're ready for the interview. You can answer it here. There are a few blank questions that we'll fill out later. T he  C hronic  01:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * There's one more question for you to ask. T he   C hronic  18:35, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Newsletter = proofread. T he  C hronic  00:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

RE: Interview
I enjoyed reading your interview. I especially liked the honesty on #5 under Personal. lol. Nikki 311  01:44, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, its a good read! Thanks for the note about the references, I never knew that. Cheers, Dav  nel  03  Sign It, Junior!  08:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey
I was wondering if you could help me. Im making a ppv article on Breakdown: In Your House could you help me link things properly? Also Merry Christmas!LifeStroke420 (talk) 23:44, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note : I've moved it to Breakdown: In Your House as this was the official name for the PPV and goes in line with the other PPV articles under the In Your House banner (In Your House 1). I did this so that it stays standardised, it would be better like this in my view than having the articles under different names. Just thought i'd let you know in case you were wondering. Cheers, Dav  nel  03  Sign It, Junior!  15:36, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Tribute to the Troops
I dont know if you're online or if you're watching Raw, but if you are, did I hear Lillian right when she introduced Vince? I coulda swore she said "the Chairman of World WrrestlingFederation" LOL. Just makeing sure my ears didn't decieve me. Stormin&#39; Foreman (talk) 02:52, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Magic Words
Yes there is. People copy from existing articles. There's no reason to encourage confusion and sloppiness. Is it really that difficult to do it right in the first place? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flatterworld (talk • contribs) 23:58, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

WWE Draft 2007
You think the draft 2007 is ready to be published?-- Tr U cO 93 11 <b style="color:darkblue">TaLk</b> / <b style="color:darkblue">SiGn</b> 05:44, 26 December 2007 (UTC) (sign my guest book thanx)
 * I posted a notice on the project page, should i wait for other's opinions or should I publish it now? (sign my guestbook if u havent so [in my sig])-- Tr U cO 93 11 <b style="color:darkblue">TaLk</b> / <b style="color:darkblue">SiGn</b> 05:57, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok Ill wait till like 2 or 3 in the afternoon tommorow. If it's good Ill get started on the 2005 draft, there are more refs for that one. Now for the ECW brand extension, can we really write a whole article on two superstar selections?-- Tr U cO 93 11 <b style="color:darkblue">TaLk</b> / <b style="color:darkblue">SiGn</b> 06:01, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 * What if we included it in the 2002 brand extension draft article?(oh yea Merry belated Christmas..) Tr U cO 93 11 <b style="color:darkblue">TaLk</b> / <b style="color:darkblue">SiGn</b> 06:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes
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Question about "Filburt Shellbach"
Which episode provides the family name Shellbach? WhisperToMe (talk) 03:59, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll check that one out - I have all the episodes in English on my computer (albeit they are the edited re-runs). I have a few in Spanish, three in German, and one in Hungarian. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:52, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

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FL discussion
Can you join this discussion about the 2007 WWE Draft nominating it for FL status, dont have the link on hand but you may go here [if you want to join the discussion] on its talk page Talk:2007 WWE Draft. Thanx.-- Tr U cO 93 11 <b style="color:darkblue">TaLk</b> / <b style="color:darkblue">SiGn</b> 02:58, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanx for supporting it, how many supports do we need or how long do we wait for it to become a GA?? Tr U cO 93 11 <b style="color:darkblue">TaLk</b> / <b style="color:darkblue">SiGn</b> 00:57, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Bill Clinton @ WrestleMania X
Hi, you [removed] my addition to the WM X article referring to the appearence of Timothy Watters as President Clinton. I just began watching the Silvervision.co.uk-"Tagged Classics"-edition of Wrestlemania X. Firstly: There definitely appeared some Bill Clinton imitator. Secondly: [IMDB] lists Timothy Watters as the one. All the best to you! -- Bardnet (talk) 15:19, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I am just not sure it's all that notable, and IMDb is not 100% reliable.  TJ   Spyke   20:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)