User talk:TKD/Archive 3

Routh
What I usually do with the references is have a section called "References", and then put "Footnotes" (where the citations go) and "Web sites" (ala External links) as two sub-sections, since the web sites are usually references themselves of sorts. It looks like this. I dunno if that's a better idea or not. Mad Jack 23:07, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Multiplayer in Halo: Combat Evolved
This article was moved into project space. Want me to nuke your template still, or no?

P.S. Please reply here; I've got this page watchlisted. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 09:48, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, although someone may get to it before you. I delinked it and tagged it as uncontroversial housekeeping (a template that only section links to a deleted article is pretty much pointless, since the AfD has now concluded. If the article returns in encyclopedic form, the template can be re-created; CSD G4 [which doesn't apply to all speedy deletions] and G6 wouldn't apply). Not sure whether a individual listing of each map would be necessary then. Depends on how much design rationale, etc. can be dug up.


 * Thanks for being bold and moving the thing into project space. — TKD::Talk 16:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Update: The template has been deleted by Royboycrashfan. — TKD::Talk 02:05, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Red Vs Blue
Hello there.

I understand that my message about RvB makes it sound like I don't really know anything about it. That's the truth. =] I've neither seen nor heard of it, but a quick browse of the Wikipedia article on it suggested I've missed a lot.

I'm not wrong about the Tritin Films Red vs Blue thing either, however. They did make a film with Quake 3 (as they always did) with that kind of title, and it was meant to be funny. I have the review and the film in my archives, which I could dig out for reference. I imagine this RvB that's around now is nothing to do with it (done with Halo I guess?) but I was just going on what I know. Remember, I stopped watching machinima when you started. =D

I hope to enlighten everyone about QMovies past, though. Keep up the good work.--Psyklax 08:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, CTF: Comedy In Armor [sic] was the one. I think I heard some talk about a Red vs Blue thing going on with Tritin Films, but maybe I'm imagining it. You must remember my memory's not great in general, but I haven't seen any kind of machinima for 5-6yrs now. I discovered a huge scene with Windows Movie Maker, though, you guys ought to check it out. Hundreds of films to look at.

You know what? Maybe I should start going with the PPJ again. I'm a completist, though, so when I reviewed every single QMovie ever, and no more were being made, I gave up. That and I went to university in September 2001, which marked the death of my ability to maintain a website. If you want to know what I did in the intervening time, however, you ought to check out http://www.tv13.co.uk which is my group's website. All the guys that made Dantooine Five-O (don't know if you're familiar with it...) are involved. It's not machinima, but there you go.

I plan on getting the PPJ back online at the weekend, provisionally at http://www.tv13.co.uk/ppj, as an archive thing more than anything, though, as I said, I might get back to work on it. Watch this space! =] --Psyklax 09:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Screenshots
I have screenshots for every Quake movie I've ever reviewed, as I explained on the main project page. I need to know what the deal is with putting them on Wikipedia. I looked at the Diary of a Camper screenshot and there was a lot of complicated legal stuff that I think you dealt with so you might have to help me with that. I don't want to put anything up that might be problematic.--Psyklax 12:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I've uploaded a screenshot for Ranger Gone Bad 2: Assault on Gloom Keep. As I said, it's lo-res, and tomorrow I can reference it back to my site, but could you look at the info page on it and check I did everything alright? I don't want to bother you really, but I want to make sure I keep all my contributions above board. =] If this one's okay, I can include ones for all subsequent articles I'll make on Quake movies, all referenced back to the PPJ. I'll admit I used your Diary of a Camper image as a template, and the wording in the rationale is virtually the same. If that's a prob, I'll try and rewrite it in my own words. Also, would it help if I said that I took the pic? --Psyklax 07:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Re URF
Good idea to make that template on URF. I thought linking to the URF article would be enough, but that works well too. BTW I looked at the article you mentioned (http://www.walkerart.org/archive/E/A3736D5FF5A535DA6172.htm) and the section called 'about United Ranger Films' was believe it or not written by me! =D So you accidentally quoted a reference to me that I wrote myself. Shows how much my word got around back then... at least they cited the source (ppj.telefragged.com, which no longer exists but will be online again tomorrow). Just thought I'd mention it. =] --Psyklax 11:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Calling programmers
We need coders for the WikiProject Disambigation fixer. We need to make a program to make faster and easier the fixing of links. We will be happy if you could check the project. You can Help! --Neo139 09:18, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Dr. B's Red vs. Blue barnstar spam
Hi there. Just wondering how / where do you think this issue should be reported? around 20 users seem to have been given the spam stars, and I dunno, some may actually deserve barnstars. And User:Dr. B seems to be on permanent wikibreak. Bwithh 21:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Article for deletion
Magnetic Accelerator Cannon is being proposed for deletion. I do not feel it should be deleted, but merged into the future Technology of Halo article, because it is unsourced and written in an in-universe tone. Please lend your support. --DevastatorIIC 00:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Dantooine Five-O
Paul Marino made an article about himself? Come on, I would be so bold as to do that! =] But seriously, I think it's one thing to make an article about a movie you were involved in, completely another to write an article about yourself. If somebody else feels that I deserve my own page on Wikipedia, let them create it, but I'd never make it myself. Bad form. As for DF, though, I can upload a looong account I wrote about DF's production from start to finish, written not long after the film was done. That could be a sufficient reference work for somebody to make a DF article, along with any web pages like reviews etc. I'll post a request soon. --Psyklax 08:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar
What's a barnstar? Must search Wikipedia for that... but thanks, I try my best. Please note there will be no articles from me until 24th August when I return from USA, but my first ones after that will be RGB3, Eschaton DT and a huge Devil's Covenant one... watch this space. PS Thanks again. =] --Psyklax 08:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

This Spartan Life
I am downskated from TSL, i was hoping that you could edit so that body count isn't list as a regually segment, since it was replaced in ep 3 with the meet the leet (which could be counted as a form of the body count segment), also as a heads up This Spartan Life has begun production of Ep 4, i am editing the wiki since there was a topic in the fourms that This Spartan Life as a whole should begin to try to expand upon the Wiki article.

Also if you could expand create a press section that would mention the press that TSL has gotten from http://www.thisspartanlife.com/press.shtml

PS-i hate the fact that this sounds totally noobish, but how do you add those subheadings thingies that you can click, that take you to a subtopic within the main topic, if i knew that i could do quite a bit of the editing for the TSL page

DS —Preceding unsigned comment added by Downskated (talk • contribs)

RE TSL
"has it been stated that body count has been replaced by the Meet the leet", the answer no, but there is no idication that body count or meet the leet will be put into episode 4, both topics are being proposed for ep 4, but as far as i know there hasn't been a descion on which topic they will use, there were more people that want to be in the Meet the Leet, but there was a long debate in the fourms that has been proposed that tsl does that for a body count, but like i stated eariler that meet the leet is like a body count, also i forgot to mention but it would be great if you would mention that you can join in and help with the film of TSL on xbox live. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Downskated (talk • contribs)

Bringing this to your attention
I've made a proposal to make a unified cleanup track for the disparate Metal Gear character articles; you may be interested in seeing it, here. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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Derek Jeter
I added video of Norton destroying Jeter's bio and screaming about the Turn 2 event. Hope that satisfies ya. MattyFridays 15:47, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


 * TKD - the video I linked to was a video of the actual radio broadcast, uploaded by the show itself. It's about as reliable a source as you're going to get.  I don't understand the issue - the video is of the actual incident noted in the trivia section.


 * If the video of "The Flip" or "The Dive" was also on YouTube, would it also be unadmittable? The video is of Jim Norton destroying Derek Jeter's giftbasket and melting down over the air due to a perceived slight.

Few things - The original material in the Jeter trivia section was not criticism, it was a trivial incident. The material I wrote did not reflect Norton's point of view ("perceived slight") and kept neutrality. Secondly, the reference was to maintain that the incident did happen. (Norton flipping out over a perceived slight, NOT that Jeter actually didn't give him the autograph) It's not like I posted "Derek Jeter is known to give autographs to attractive young women over middle-aged comedians" and then linked the video. I posted about an incident that was heard on a nation-wide radio show, and then provided the video to back up that the incident happened, with no commentary either way. That's not criticism.

If the video I linked was on FoundryMusic.com, which is Opie and Anthony's main fileserver site, instead of youtube, then there wouldn't be a problem? Again, faulting YouTube because "anyone can upload videos there" doesn't work, because if Jeter's highlights were up there and referenced, then it doesn't hold water.

The video is available on Foundry, but I didn't link to that because of inappropriate content on Foundry's banner ads.


 * MattyFridays 19:51, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

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Copyedit
Hey, I'd love to give it a go ASAP (and it already looks very well written). &mdash; Deckill e r 18:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Machinama
So that's really how machinama is defined? Hm. I was only familiar with the word in terms of something like Red vs Blue. As far as Square Enix games go, while they do use FMV at various points, the large majority (at least for Final Fantasy games) of cut scenes take place using a much lower aesthetic. It doesn't really incorporate the game engine, though, at least not in any interactive manner beyond choosing what to say on the rare occasion. That might not be machinama. You'd probably be able to identify it on sight.

Anyway, again, I was completely unaware that "machinama" was used in reference to those things you mentioned. That's good to know. Thanks for pointing it out.

By the way, thank you for your explanation about the article. It's got my support. Ryu Kaze 03:12, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. That particular image, by the way, was actually an example of FMV at the time (1995-1996). They've come a long way since then (they claim that this will be what real-time rendering can look like on the PS3). I won't be holding my breath. Ryu Kaze 13:33, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * By the way, in case you work on those other Rangers articles at some point, what's your plan for those? I have to echo Haukur's sentiments: this article was genuinely interesting. So I'm genuinely interested in what else might be done with the somewhat related subjects. Ryu Kaze 13:51, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the additional information. I'll look into it. So those Halo 3 screenshots are real-time? Damn. I still remember when gamers (myself among them) were going "Look at the graphics!!!" over the Sega Saturn and the Nintendo 64. Ryu Kaze 02:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm back
I've returned from the USA on my holiday, but as I come back I see you've been very busy with all the machinima pages and I've kind of lost track of where to go. If there's anything that needs doing on the old stuff let me know. Also I've noticed a few things, such as that the term 'machinima' was coined at the start of 1998. I don't remember hearing it until the machinima.com website was opened in January 2000, and I was pretty up on things from April 1998 onwards, as the PPJ archives will prove. Searching both bluesnews.com and the Cineplex news archives reveals that Hugh Hancock (machinima.com founder etc) wrote something reported by both sites on June 24th/25th 1999, but that's about as early as the term seems to have been recorded. I'm 99% certain he invented the term, but he was the only one that used it until machinima.com opened, and from then on everybody jumped on. Just my two cents... --Psyklax 12:58, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Concerning the origin of the term 'machinima', the source seems to corroborate the claim, but it might be worth noting that only Hancock and perhaps one or two of his close associates used the term until machinima.com opened (AFAIK). Maybe it's a moot point, I don't know, a lot of terms invented by people take a while to catch on. As for making DoaC FA status, I'm not sure. I think I understand that FAs just have to be well written, and it doesn't matter what the subject is. Getting the machinima article to FA status would be more logical, but you've done a lot of good work on DoaC, all I wonder about is if it's actually too much - it is a very small topic, after all. As I said, I'm not completely clear on the criteria of FA status, after reading the FA page, so it's up to you. In the next week or two I'll watch Devil's Covenant and write an article about it. There's a lot to be said - in terms of machinima I'd say it's one of the most important ones ever made. --Psyklax 12:33, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

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The Seal of Nehahra
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Copyedit request
When you have time, it would be great if you could fulfill your generous offer to copyedit Halo: Combat Evolved. Thank you. JimmyBlackwing 09:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Halo: Combat Evolved copyedit
Thanks. You're doing a great job so far. My writing can be unnecessarily clumsy, so I really appreciate the help before FAC. As for your talk page suggestions, I'll work those in there. The track listing idea was taken from Half-Life 2, but if you don't think they'll buy it, then I'll just cut it out. Again, thanks. JimmyBlackwing 10:02, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

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