User talk:TKFM Pardus

Hi!

Airattack
First of all, welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you enjoy your stay. I was the one who recently merged the Airattack page with Air Combat Fighter Ace, as they're basically the same game. Personally, I couldn't see any room for more text from the Airattack article, though you'll notice that the external links were transferred. However, this is Wikipedia. If you think you can do better, please give it a shot, and edit Fighter Ace. Please, however, don't revert the redirect - it'll allow people to find what will become the main article, while you can look up the original version of the Airattack article by clicking on the 'history' tab at the top of the page. Also not that article names can include whitespace, so the article should properly reside at Air Attack, though I've taken the liberty of creating and redirecting that page, too. --Scott Wilson 00:24, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Uh, in the abscence of a reply button i'll edit this.

AirAttack and fighter ace are 2 distinct games now.

PLEASE leave the page unadulterated. There is going to be more content added to it, as AirAttack is a completely different game to the current incarnation of Fighter Ace. —This unsigned comment was added by TKFM Pardus (talk • contribs) 00:27, 26 March 2006 (UTC).


 * There is no reply button; you're doing exactly the right thing by replying below the previous text. One small addition, though; sign posts on talk pages with four tildes ( ~ ), and it'll come up with your username and a datestamp.


 * Anyway, back to Air Attack/Fighter Ace: Although Air Attack is distinct from the current version of Fighter Ace, it was the original version. Currently, I'm not convinced there's enough out there for separate articles (just look at the Fighter Ace one, and it's been going for some time), though if you feel that they shouldn't be lumped together, consider making two sections in the Fighter Ace article, as has been done for Transport Tycoon. --Scott Wilson 00:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

The depth of feeling in the game, along with the wish to distinguish itself from subscription based games justifies its' own wiki space, IMO. fighter ace and airattack split nearly 10 years ago, and are completely different games in both flight model terms and system requirements. TKFM Pardus 00:51, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Has the code of Air Attack been significantly altered since the release of version two of Fighter Ace? That would be a good argument for it's own article. Nonetheless, I've done some looking around and I really don't think it's notable enough to qualify for its own page; it's a derivative of Fighter Ace; it should go on that page. You obviously disagree, so I'm going to ask for a third opinion --Scott Wilson 16:16, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


 * the code is completely different between FA2 and AirAttack. AirAttack has no offline content or bombers at all, the flight model is completely different- For example FA2 is about 100Mb as opposed to AirAttacks 14 Mb. TKFM Pardus 17:44, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The code between Fighter Ace one and two will obviously be different, but what I'm asking is if someone has gone back *after* the release of Fighter Ace 2 and updated Airattack in any way. --Scott Wilson 20:04, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

3rd opinion on Airattack
3rd opinion Hi. I came as a response to the request for a third opinion. The one word that stuck in my mind was "forerunner". One game is a forerunner to the other. What came to mind was the game Sid Meier's Pirates!. There have been three versions of this game between 1987 and 2004 with completely different programming between them (especially between the second and third game). However, all three games are on the same page. Why is this relavant? Pirates was an award winning game which sold tens of thousands of copies. Yet, it exists on only one page.

In this case, I recognize that there were several years and variations between the two games, but in essence its the same game. There isn't enough unique information in either page to have it stand apart (they read pretty much the same). I think that you would make a stronger page if you put them together on one page. Have a redirect point from the removed page to the new one. Outline the two games and their differences; it would serve to improve the article.

Thanks for asking for a third opinion. I'll be glad to assist if I can. ClarkBHM 05:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)