User talk:TNTMilligan

Your submission at Articles for creation: Crime in Sports Podcast (July 25)
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  Ravenswing   02:03, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

I can't tell the difference. Please help.
Dear Ravenswing:

You recently declined my Wikipedia submission for the Crime in Sports podcast with the following comment:

"Blatant and egregious self-promotion, the only Wikipedia activity of the creator. Wikipedia isn't these knuckleheads' advertising platform. Yeah, great, they're edgy and full of snark. Move it along."

I'll do my best to be polite and constructive, but to be perfectly honest, I've spent many hours putting this information together and keeping it updated as new episodes are released, so forgive me if I seem as if I'm taking it personally. I take issue with most, if not all, of your assessment and would like to appeal your decision directly since making any significant changes to the content would reduce or eliminate its usefulness.

First, your accusation (yes, I mean accusation) that this is self-promotion would indicate that you believe I am somehow involved with or associated to the Crime in Sports podcast - which I am not. I'm simply a fan that thought a Wikipedia page would be a great place to house the information in a single place. Admittedly, as a fan, I would like to see more people learn about the podcast so the creators continue to make it, but that does not mean this post was meant to create that type of publicity.

Next, your statement that this is 'the only Wikipedia activity of the creator', while true, should not be used against me or the Crime in Sports podcast. In fact, a quote from your own user profile states, "Who really gives a damn how many contributions I've made[...]?" Based on that question alone, why would you use my inexperience against me? Why is my being a first-time contributor such a bad thing in your mind? Did someone use that against you for your first contribution? I will say that, based on your comment alone, I will hesitate to contribute anything further.

And finally, I find your assertion of "these knuckleheads are using Wikipedia as an advertising platform" 100% disingenuous and frankly, hypocritical. Otherwise, the following pages would have also been rejected as mine has been:


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_(podcast) (I used this page as a formatting guide for my submission)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Town
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Joe_Rogan_Experience
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oprah's_Master_Class

I could go on listing hundreds of podcasts - both well-known and lesser-known - that have Wikipedia pages. But instead, I'll direct your attention to the following Wikipedia page dedicated to the podcast medium and which contains literally hundreds of links to active Wikipedia pages about podcasts, most of which were submitted by fans and almost all of which are formatted much like my submission. That page can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Audio_podcasts.

In summary, my proposed contribution is NOT self-promotion, using the fact that this is my first Wikipedia activity against me (or the podcast) does nothing to promote future contributions, and blocking this submission - while allowing so many others which are written and formatted in a similar fashion is the height of hypocrisy.

Thank you in advance for you prompt, fair, and consistent reconsideration of my submission.

I await your reply.

Sincerely,

Thomas H Milligan

PS - If I've not followed proper procedure, since this is my first experience, please forgive my not following proper protocol.

Draft:Crime in Sports Podcast


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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:50, 25 January 2019 (UTC)