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Giving deletion of Dennis Steele article another try. TR05401 (talk) 14:58, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Dennis Steele
I have removed the proposed deletion tag you placed on Dennis Steele, as per policy an article that has undergone a deletion discussion cannot be deleted under the proposed deletion process. If you wish to pursue deletion, please follow the three-step process for an Articles for deletion nomination at WP:AFDHOWTO. Alternatively, you may write up a detailed rationale for deletion below this message, and as long as it is not completely outside of the deletion policy, I can create a nomination on your behalf. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 17:41, 29 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks.
 * While Steele did have a campaign of sorts, it was comprised primarily of stunts, such as his arrest, or standing at the roadside awaiting a Vice Presidential motorcade and giving the VP the finger. Whether Biden deserved it or not isn't so much the issue, as was whether Steele was a serious and/or viable candidate.  Coverage was minimal, usually a part of a larger story not concerning him, and, as an example, what he got had more to do with his fringe perspective; this Burlington Free Press article mentions his phosphorous pollution abatement plan for the nearly 600 miles of Lake Champlain shoreline - an "industrial hemp barrier" for which he never during the debate or on his website afterward offer any facts or point to any studies in support of his proposal.  He was routinely excluded from debates for not meeting minimal criteria for admission and so used those occasions to garner free media by standing at the entrance and complaining until the event started, and then he'd leave.  He did not schedule events for voters to meet him since there was no visible support for his candidacy in the state, other than from a very small group (20-30) of likeminded secessionists.  The event at which he was arrested was a Democratic primary candidate event for which, naturally, he was ineligible for inclusion since he was running as an independent and was not, as Ketcham's Times's January 31, 2010 article inaccurately reported, running as the "Second Vermont Republic's gubernatorial candidate" (SVR is not a registered political party in Vermont). Further, Ketcham wrote a self-published piece at the HuffPo on August 31, 2010 that was subsequently self-republished again at CounterPunch.org that I've removed from Steele's article since Ketcham revealed in another of his self-published pieces on March 15, 2011, that he'd written the August 2010 piece "as a favor to my friends in the Vermont secessionist movement" and that the piece was intended as "good advertising."


 * Since the election Steele's absented himself from any of the statewide policy discussions that in a small state like ours most can participate in with little problem. During the March town meeting this year that occurs statewide he made no effort to politically participate, either in his community or in the state at large.


 * He has never held or run for any other public office here that I can find in the Vermont Secretary of State's website.


 * There's considerably more but since I didn't see this much detail in the original deletion discussion so I don't want to overdo.--TR05401 (talk) 19:28, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. See Articles for deletion/Dennis Steele (2nd nomination). &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 19:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Much thanks. --TR05401 (talk) 22:05, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

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&mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 04:44, 30 June 2011 (UTC)