User talk:TUF-KAT/archive 7

New project?
Would you be intersted (and/or know some Wikipedians who are interested) in participating in a project to improve the quality of R&B and soul music coverage on Wikipedia? --b. Touch 00:13, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC) Tuff Kat who would you say is the voice of bluegrass music?

paniq on vfd
Hi Tuf-Kat. I am a proponent of the article for paniq which is listed for deletion. I believe that it does meet the inclusion requirements based upon the link you provided. There are very few notable musicians within the demoscene and paniq is one of them (which is why he made off with so many distinguished awards in 2004). Would you please review my edits to the article and reconsider your vote? With thanks... -R

Proposed Medical marijuana article split
This article is overweight and needs to be split in 2, otherwise it cannot be freely edited. I propose splitting it into Medical marijuan (history) and medical marijuana (research). I really want to read here what other people want. I propose to split the article next sunday. Thought you would be interested. See Talk: Medical marijuana.--Squiquifox 19:48, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

re: WikiProject Music/Notability and Music Guidelines
Good evening. What happened to the accompanying Talk page? There were some good questions that I wanted to follow-up on but I can't find the discussion. Did it perhaps fail to get moved? Rossami (talk) 00:10, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Mediation meeting
Template:Mediation-meeting Please edit the side box here (be brief) to update when you might be able to attend. Thanks. -==SV 22:06, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

RM Rastafarianism &rarr; Rastafari (Religion)
Thought this might be of interest to you. Guettarda 03:23, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The Temptations
What do you think? --b. Touch 20:35, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * I finally found the significance blurb...and supplied the attribution as well. --b. Touch 20:47, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Indian music
Thanks! You do a lot of great work on Wikipedia, and you're compliment reminds me of that. Like most editors active on the music articles, you're also pleasant to work with.

Nettl is great, I recommend his Blackfoot Musical Thought (1989), though I'm from and in MT, so that adds interest), though you can read the super condensed version on Blackfoot music. His 1956 Music in Primitive Culture is really dated as a whole, but I think in detail contains the most up to date info in 1956 (see Primitive music). He also only gave the music areas of "primitive" North America as an example (leaving out the whole world, thankfully). Hyacinth 05:29, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Hopefully it won't get to this, but I think I might need a moderator to lock this article. I'm having a problem with an editor who keeps trying to add an overwhelmingly POV "criticism" of the film (it's not even a proper concensus of negative reviews of the film, many of which I have read; it's why [S]HE doesn't like it). The section is notated in the talk, and I explained the POV can be removed. --b. Touch 21:09, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

potential spam blacklist problem
I just tried adding a birth category to Claudia Beni and was prevented from doing so due to the presence of a link to www.claudiabeni-fansite.6x.to, which as far as I can tell from just glancing at it looks like an appropriate external link for this article. So I picked your name at random from the meta admin list I was presented with and am giving a heads-up rather than just removing the external link. Bryan 07:55, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Regarding the reason .6x.to was added to the spam blacklist, see . Let's hope the bot isn't still out there. -- Curps 06:25, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Barnstars on Wikipedia
Thanks dropping by today. It's always nice to run into somebody whose path doesn't cross mine often enough. – ClockworkSoul 21:42, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi Tuffy! Can you please take a look at the System of a Down edit war between Michael and MrHate regarding the albums Hypnotize and Mezmerize. I am sure you understand how this can be a delicate situation. Thanks. Danny 02:52, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi. I found this website which seems to support Mike. I dont really know much about this though. Danny 03:50, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

A Song for You (album)
The Carpenters had an album called A Song for You; that's why I made a article that explicitely stated "(Temptations album)". Can I change it back? --b. Touch 04:14, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Versos mojado
Hi TUF-KAT. The ogg had been listed on WP:CP for over a week. According to Marc (Raul654), it's still under copyright - the Library of Congress only hosts it - and the terms of redistribution do not allow commercial reproduction, so it's not compatible with the GFDL. I'm sorry; it was a really nice clip. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 04:39, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)

Calcutta -> Kolkata name change
Hi there. I noticed you voted in the Naming policy poll to keep the Wikipedia policy of naming an article with the most familiar English name. You may not be aware that another attempt has begun to rename the Calcutta article to Kolkata, which is blatantly not the most common name of the city, whether it's official or not. If you want to vote on the issue you can do so at Talk:Calcutta. Cheers. -- Necrothesp 13:44, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Cuba Gooding Jr. --> Cuba Gooding, Jr.
Can you help me do this page move? I didn't want to do it manually because I'd lose the history, and the mechancial way won't work. Thanks. --b. Touch 20:57, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Bring back quickpolls
I think it's time that quickpolls be re-evaluated as a solution to short term disputes between users. What say you? -- R yan!  |  Talk  05:18, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)

Music of Uruguay
Good job expanding [Music of Uruguay]]. I have made some edits. I took out the reference to llamadas because llamadas is not a rhythm; it is an event that takes place at the inaugural parade during Carnival. It means "the calls" and occurs when the candombe drummers parade and "call" people to Carnival. Also, are you sure about that GRAMMY? I could not find a reference to a group called "Opa" in the GRAMMY Winners Search at www.grammy.com. Nascimento has won a GRAMMY, in 1997, but did Fattoruso play on it, and was it Latin jazz? Mona-Lynn 11:47, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Our Gang
This article is up at WP:FAC. What do you think of it? --b. Touch 14:42, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

re: Nine Inch Nails
Good evening. I am trying to sort out the decision on Votes for deletion/Alessandro Cortini. It appears to be a pretty clear "delete" decision. When I went to clean out the "what links here", however, I found the list at Nine Inch Nails. I'm not particularly familiar with the artists or the specific circumstances. Could you please take a look at them and see if the others in the list need discussion (even if only for consistency)? Thanks. Rossami (talk) 05:44, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

New languages
I've replied at meta. Angela. 00:54, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)

Ogaden flag?
Greetings, Can you provide more information about Image:Ogadenflag.png? Is this an official flag, a separatist flag, etc.? Maybe add a caption for the image in the Ogaden article? Thanks, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 05:33, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Constant vandalism
I have an issue with a user at a dymaic IP adress (among the IP adresses they log in from are 68.82.69.25 and 68.82.68.65) who constantly adds unneccessary disambig links to the top of Walt Disney and The Walt Disney Company. This same person added a list of Disney animated features to the Walt Disney article, even though we already HAVE that list at List of Disney animated features. It's not a problem (yet), but should this person continue to constantly edit the article, what can be done? --b. Touch 04:22, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Latvian mythology
Hi! I've found that you were the initial author for many pages on Latvian mythology. Though most of those contributions date back to 2002, is there any chance that you still remember the sources? --Juzeris 12:38, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info! --Juzeris 14:39, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Music of Lousiana...
Well, the only problem with the customized infobox is that it makes it the only state whose music page doesn't link to all the other states' music pages.

Nu soul --> neo soul
(This is User:B Touch. I changed my login name) Can you move this for me? I think my new account is too new to move this, and I've forgotten the password for the old one. --FuriousFreddy 21:24, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * I did attempt to move it (even again today), but I got an error stating that this account is too new to move pages. --FuriousFreddy 23:06, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, I forgot there was discussion about doing that to prevent page move vandals.  All fixed now. Tuf-Kat 23:12, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

Goldie And The Gingerbreads
Good morning. I am far from being an experienced Wikipedia author. PSE explain what makes Goldie & The Gingerbreads preferable to Goldie And The Gingerbreads.

TIA --Psycho Chicken 23:14, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your response, but.
 * This is a band's name and it is printed a few dozen times in publications of all sorts, and it appeared this way on
 * the posters, announcing the concert events of the 1960s. I deem a title or name with a & different
 * from that with an And.
 * That would mean a different name for a different band. Conventions and rules are alright, but exceptions,
 * differences and nuances are the most important things in our lives. PSE consider.--Psycho Chicken 07:49, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sly & the Family Stone
Up as a featured article candidate. I saw that, a few years ago, you stubbed Sly Stone, but not the band. That sort of took me for a bit when I first got here (I was like "no Sly & the Family Stone article!?! *cries* "), but I guess when you're stubbing hundreds of articles, you try to cut down on the work load. Makes sense.

Now Sly and his Family both have articles (I bought a book on the band, the only one in existence, and used that as a primary along with website references), and hopefully the Family Stone article can get featured. --FuriousFreddy 04:07, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

My adminship
Hi TUF-KAT, Thank you so much for your vote in my nomination. Your support means a lot to me and I look forward to helping out. -  BanyanTree 04:34, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sevdah
Sevdah (traditional Bosnian folk music): I stubbed and categorized it, but music is out of my sphere; and since you are famous for music maybe you'll know what to do with it. -12.74.168.135 20:37, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

admin help needed on wikibooks
Please move Cookbook:Chilli_Pepper to Cookbook:Chili_Pepper, wiping out the old redirect as needed. AlbertCahalan 23:51, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Zürich to Zurich
Zürich has been nominated on Requested moves for a page move to Zurich. Perhapse you might like to express your opinion about this proposed move on talk:Zürich. Philip Baird Shearer 10:03, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

major wikibooks problem
There's an edit war on the front page.

A vandal is calling others vandals, so watch out.

Templates are being modified too.

Also, many back versions that look pretty decent have, down the page a bit, the vandalism.

You should just make me an admin. :-)

Oh, and he hit my talk page with something rude.

Well, you did it!
...you finally persuaded me, after a bit of deliberation, to accept a nomination for adminship; thank you for voting for me. I'll do my best in the new gig. Keep up the excellent work! Would that I had your knowledge of world music. Happy editing, Antandrus 03:34, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

song articles
How notable does a song need to be before it's notable enough to warrant an article? How much information about the song needs to be known? I recently listed an Alkaline Trio song's article, Private Eye (song) (the only song of theirs with an article) for VfD. I personally know that this song isn't any more noteworthy than any of their other songs, and it's not even one of the best known. Will you take a look at the article and the VfD listing, and give an opinion? Thanks. BTW, how you doin, man? Lachatdelarue (talk) 14:34, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What do you know about the band, The Dillards? Danny 02:52, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi, thanks for supporting my adminship nomination--nixie 06:22, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Someone moved Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (movie). The page needs to be moved back where it was; the article for the fairy tale should be at Snow White, where it already is. On top of all of this, this person refused to relink all of the links to the movie. --FuriousFreddy 13:48, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Blues page revert
I reverted the Blues page to restore a previous version which had been vandalized by blanking a section. However in the interim you removed a couple categories (evidently not noticing the vandalism). So your edits got dumped when I reverted the page. I would have restored yours, except I don't understand why you removed them, either. So if you want to redo them, could you please explain why on the talk page?

2nd question is, why haven't you fixed the ambig links on your own userpage? (I fixed the one for Abbey Road (album)). --Blainster 17:42, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for supporting my nomination on RfA, it failed because of Wikipedia's minority rule system, although I thought 21/8 support was sufficient. It was also cut short by 12 hours. But your vote of confidence is greatly appreciated, now let's build an encyclopedia! --Bjarki 14:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Fields
Not a bad answer on my talk page for fields. Will anyway since you answered my question I was thinking that you and I could create an article on fields or specialties or anything else similar. Please send any messages to my talk page about this plan. --Heegoop, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Paco Tomas The Great
I'd suggest when speedily deleting articles, check and delete their talk pages as well.

Do you think it is worth adding this reminder into the policy? Mikkalai 03:50, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikibooks
"I have made you a sysop on en.wikibooks."


 * Thanks! - Omegatron 15:10, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

French classical music
Sure! I'd be happy to. Besides, it gives me something to do besides swatting vandals and receiving death threats, LOL. Happy editing, Antandrus 02:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be better just to turn it into a redirect to Music of France? &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 22:22, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Andalusian music
TUF-KAT, both Music of Andalusia and Andalusian classical music need a {disambig}. I noticed that the keyword Andalusian music redirects to Music of Andalusia. Andalusian classical music needs therefore to be renamed to something like Andalusian music, (Morocco) as it is widely known. Cheers Svest 06:28, May 2, 2005 (UTC) Wiki me up
 * Perfect. I appreciate the {disambig} you made. Cheers. -Svest 00:17, May 3, 2005 (UTC) Wiki me up

Polish Scouting
Zwiazek Harcerstwa Polskiego (Polish Scouting and Guiding Association) was founded in 1918 (!): Azymut
 * http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZHP
 * http://zhp.pl/index.php?do=standard&navi=0001,0001

New Age music
On the discussion page of Wikiproject: Music genres, you have suggested that new age music should get its own color and genrebox. I think that someone should work on this, but I don't know much about new age music.

Also, New Age music is currently listed as a subgenre of ambient (itself being a subgenre of electronic music). Should New Age get its own color, or should it use the silver color that ambient and all other electronic genres use? Andros 1337 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

disrupting wikipedia policy vote
You voted once for the policy at Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. Despite a 75% support that vote was rejected by the minority. A new vote has been called with a two week limit at Wikipedia talk:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. Please take a moment to participate. Thanks. - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  16:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Category:Trinidadian styles of music
I just noticed this category. There was a category:"Trinidadian music" which I put up for CfD and renamed Category:Music of Trinidad and Tobago. That category has Category:Soca and Category:Steelpan music, while Category:Trinidadian styles of music has Category:Chutney music and Category:Calypso. Should these two categories co-exist (and essentially duplicate each other) or should these styles of music, born in Trinidad, not fall into the "Music of Trinidad and Tobago" category? Wondering what your thoughts were. Thanks. Guettarda 21:39, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

List of heavy metal bands
Please have a look, this page is going thru some changes, and could use some direction. Cheers, Sam Spade 22:13, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Hello...
My name is Erin, Danny told me you are very involved with audio work here in the wiki. He suggested we get in-touch for some of the cultural attache work we have begun. HOWEVER... I just heard an interview with Shawn Ewald of the A-Infos Radio Project. I think you can find an example here http://www.radio4all.net/ He wants to open source his entire work, several YEARS worth of continuous audio. He was talking about both mirroring space, as well as collaborative efforts to expand the project. I sent a short note to their "contact" link... but maybe you could hunt down a direct email and talk with him. It sounds like a real gold mine if music, interviews, speeches and other airwave free content. Again, he said he has years worth of unique, continuous audio. Good luck. TTLightningRod 15:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Under the "Topic" link... http://www.radio4all.net/index.php?op=type&nav=type& TTLightningRod

Music Wikiportal Anniverseries for June
Hi there. I'm leaving on Thursday and will not have Internet access again until mid-August. I've done the Music Wikiportal anniverseries for June and left it on the template's talk page here: Template talk:Wikiportal:Music/Anniversaries. If you would change it out on June 1st, I'd appreciate it. :) 04:39, May 24, 2005 (UTC)

Egyptian mythology
If you are TokerBoy, whose User space redirects to yours, then here is a response to a question you raised 2 and a bit years ago

Its actually increadibly easy to understand - I have tried to re-write it to make this clear. There were initially 3 different religions - one with Ra as the chief god, one with Ptah as the head, and one with Atum. What happened was that the groups influenced each other over time, politics having a HUGE say (indeed changing Set from hero into villain, merely because the Hyksos quite liked him),

the changes were as follows


 * Atum + Ra (1) -> Atum-Ra -> Ra (2)
 * Ra (2) + Horus (1) -> Ra-Herakty = Horus (2)
 * Horus (1) was the son of Geb and Nuit, and named Horus the Elder
 * Ra-Herakty means Ra, who is Horus-of-the-two-horizons
 * Horus (2) was born from the primal mound (since Ra (1) and Ra (2) were)

meanwhile


 * Ptah + Seker -> Ptah-Seker
 * Ptah-Seker + Osiris (1) -> Ptah-Seker-Osiris -> Osiris (2)

and


 * various cow-goddesses + Hathor (1) ->Hathor (2)
 * Hathor (2) + Isis (1) -> Isis (2)

and


 * Set(1) + Apep + various other evil gods+demons -> Set (2)
 * Set (1) was a hero, Set (2) was a villain

then (for political reasons)


 * Horus (2) -> Harpocrates = Horus (3)


 * Harpocrates meaning Horus the child
 * Horus (3) is the son of Osiris (2) and Isis (2)

finally


 * Horus (3) + Osiris(2) -> Horus/Osiris (4)
 * Horus/Osiris (4) was only just happening at the end of egyptian mythology, so they still maintained some seperate identity.

N.b. some people allege that the final stage was


 * Horus/Osiris (4) -> Jesus/God-the-Father
 * Isis (2)-> Mary (Meri is egyptian for Beloved, one of the titles of Isis)
 * Set (2) ->Satan

hey
Sorry for editing, but you threatened to ban "203.10.121.83" if he continued to be a jackass back in 2003 and has since made minor (malicious) edits to thousands of pages since then. Please ban him, I'm also relatively new so I'm not sure what the ban process is for reporting users like that (for future reference, please let me know what to do in my ip's discussion page.) Thanks.

Possible new mediator and committee chair
Mgm has nominated himself to be a mediator and indicated he's willing to take over as chair. In an effort to help keep the mediation process alive, it would be nice if you could comment on this at Mediation Committee. --Michael Snow 20:12, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Bugs
User:SNIyer12 has continually changed this to point to Bugs Bunny, even though all others agree it should point ot Bugs (disambiguation). He has broken the 3 revert rule several times over in this situation. What should be done ot solve this problem? --FuriousFreddy 04:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Southern Preppy and Preppy
I saw your comment on Southern Preppy and I dont know how much support we might get, but I entirely agree with adding a vfd tag to Preppy. freestylefrappe 02:03, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

Gasoline vs Petrol vs Gasoline/Petrol
Your comment on the talk page suggests that you prefer Gasoline as the title, but your preference may get buried. I suggest that you return to the discussion, currently at Talk:Petrol but being bounced around, and cast a clear "vote", with a bullet and a bold-faced preference. JamesMLane 04:31, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Total reorganization of the list of lists of mathematical topics
Since this list of lists has now been completely reorganized, could you express yourself at Featured_list_candidates as to whether or to what extent this addresses your concerns, and whether you would therefore change your vote. Michael Hardy 00:15, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Knots in mathematics
See list of knot theory topics. Michael Hardy 20:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Country music
Hi Tuf Kat

Can you please have a look at the edit dispute in the Country music article. I do not like being involved in edit wars but the opinions expressed by ScapegoatVandal are so totally at odds with my understanding of the basis of Roots Music in the US that I have reverted him twice. Your advice would be appreciated. Tiles 08:26, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Your response was excellent and well supported by independent sources. I hope that it, and the additional support from other wikipedians, will defuse this potentially unpleasant situation. Tiles 00:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * From "Tough-Cat" to me


 * I have reverted your edits at bluegrass music and gospel music. I don't think our discussion at talk:country music is going anywhere, so you may want to pursue avenues of dispute resolution. Tuf-Kat 13:52, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes it is true as I predicted you would do. I knew you wanted to keep this man down with your ad hominem POV reverts, which has thus far increased more than twicefold.  Don't you dare talk down to me boy!  ScapegoatVandal 13:57, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm sorry I got you into the pointless and frustrating debate with this vandal but you did a great job. Tiles 07:27, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

New Category for WP:FA
I have a question: I wish to create a category of FA's called "Awards and Decorations." I know there are some decorations stuck under the military and war section (Medal of Honor), chivilary (Order of the Bath) and culture and society (Hero of Belarus). I wish to do this, since it will be easier to categorize these three articles, along with various others, into one section, instead of trying to find out where it should go. TIA, Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:44, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

U.S. Southern wikipedians' notice board
I have now reopened the notice board, if you are interested in contributing new topics, or in nominating articles for the Collaboration of the Week, which also received a revamp. Please post on the project's talk page if you show interest. Mike H 02:50, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

edit war at Batman
There's a problem with both an anonymouse user and CaptainCrash (who knows, they might be the same person) repeateely removing the information in the article that discusses the interpretation fo Batman and Robin as homosexuals (infornmation present in the article for months beforehand, about issues which led to the development of the Comics Code Authority, a different tone for Batman comics, female spin-off characters like Bat-Girl, etc. There's been an (unusually convoluted) discussion on the talk page, and even though one thing is being said on the talk page, the reverts still continue. What we are agreeing upon now is to have the page locked temporarily, so that we can resolve the issue once and for all. --FuriousFreddy 17:42, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Inclusion not Deletion
(AIW) can you take a look at Wikipedia "apartheid"? There is a movement to delete a two-word inclusion that is fact and true. It's gotten to the point that everyone is focused on the disputing editors and not the edit itself.

" Deletionists are disputing the following statement: "South Africa was settled initially by the Dutch, Germans and French from the 17th century onwards. English, other European settlers, and Diaspora Jews followed in the 19th century." This statement is true, and it therefore should not be deleted.69.217.125.53 15:10, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Apartheid

Thanks!69.217.123.174 19:08, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I was also spammed with this, it is not an inclusionist/deletionist issue, it's an edit war.   &mdash; PhilHibbs | talk 08:31, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

re: adminship and a favor
I've got it on my watchlist. Seems alright for now, but I see that it hasn't been a good experience at all. Thanks for the nomination; I accepted it at the nomination page. --FuriousFreddy 02:56, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi. Thought you might be interested in this. It should keep you busy for a few weeks. Danny 23:26, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Link spam
I recently noticed that User:195.157.206.139 has link spammed Wikipedia with links to the website http://www.3ammagazine.com. I think it would be best to have someone go over his/her contributions and get rid of these links, as they appear to have been added as deliberate spam for the website. -- LGagnon June 29, 2005 02:36 (UTC)

Sweetheart of the Rodeo
Knowing you to be mister album article, could you take a look at what's been going on at Sweetheart of the Rodeo? This is not any big deal to me, but I can see only a loss and no gain in User:PetSounds' systematic removal of bonus track information. Is this really an issue of style and standards? And why should it trump useful content? -- Jmabel | Talk 02:33, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

Category:American musical performers
Hi, you recently created Category:American musical performers, I see that you are working with WikiProject World music, and figured it may have had something to do with one of those templates. We have a current category structure that may better fit some of these templates. Please visit the current CFD on this category, so we may further understand the reasoning, as this may help both our categorisation and your project. Thank you. &infin; Who ? &iquest; ? 06:45, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Various Cuban styles of music sub-categories
I have nominated a number of the sub-categories you have created under Category:Cuban styles of music for deletion, based on the fact that they where either empty or contained only one or two articles, and the articles they did contain where about the music style the category was named after and wold better fit the parent category anyway (IMHO). This is not my area of expertise however, so if there where some overall plan or other good reason you want the categories to be kept you can find the votes here: Categories for deletion/Log/2005 July 23. --Sherool 01:06, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Vocal profile controversy
There is an ongoing discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music/Notability_and_Music_Guidelines regarding the insertion of vocalist profiles without the citation of credible references. This is the consolidation of several similar discussions taking place in parallel in an effort to resolve this matter by community consensus. At your earliest convenience, would you mind visiting this issue and providing your feedback? Thank you. Hall Monitor 17:19, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Aine
Hello, since you created the article Aine, you may be interested in voting on the question of whether to move Aine to Áine. --Angr/undefined 12:34, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Los Zodiacs
Hi, you redlinked to Los Zodiacs when you created Peruvian rock, so I'm letting you know that the article is now on Vfd. Kappa 09:58, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Joan Baez
Hi TUF-KAT, I asked some questions about the part you wrote in that article, maybe you want to reply at Talk:Joan Baez. Thanks in advance, --Flominator 14:00, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject R&B and Soul Music
Hey TUF-KAT, I haven't forgotten about the project. I've been working (extensively) on the articles listed. So far, I've improved Boyz II Men, Jodeci, The Jackson 5 and James Brown to decent standards, other editors have fixed up The Isley Brothers, Janet Jackson, marvin Gaye, Mary Wells, and the Marvelettes as well. Most of these articles just need one or two additions to them (most typically pictures, samples, refeences, and a full discography). The others should come along with time.

My focus right now is splitting apart and wikifying the new List of number 1 R&B hits (USA) at List of number 1 R&B hits (USA)/temp. Can you, or anybody else you know, help out at all? --FuriousFreddy 14:45, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Oops
Well, I appear to have blocked myself instead of User:MotherfuckingSHIT. How embarassing! Are there any admins watching recent changes right now? If so, please unblock me. Tuf-Kat 03:57, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, apparently I can unblock myself. Nevermind! Tuf-Kat 03:59, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * I only saw you unblocking, not blocking yourself. :-) But fear not, mfSHIT is good and blocked. FreplySpang (talk) 04:00, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

Bureaucratship
I'm letting you know that I've just nominated myself for bureaucratship for the second time. If you didn't care to know about this, I apologize for the inconvenience. Andre ( talk ) 02:40, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

Table namespace
— Omegatron 01:06, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard
Mark, I have created a new project page at Bureaucrats' noticeboard, and Secretondon suggested that I tell my fellow bureaucrats about it. It's designed as a forum where users with bureaucrat rights can discuss difficult situations, either beforehand (for advice about what to do) or after taking action (for review and feedback). It's similar to another page I created, which is starting to catch on (e.g., Jimbo used it this month): account suspensions, which is not for 3RR or simple vandalism but for close calls and disputed blocks.

Please take a look at these new project pages and give some feedback. Good idea? Bad? Needs improvement? --Uncle Ed 12:05, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

Rhythm and blues
Can you do me a favor and watch this page? I have a problem with a user User:OmegaWikipedia who's been going around and spreading Mariah Carey/Jennifer Lopez fancruft across the Wikipedia, and he unloaded a bunch of it in this article, which I reverted. He has a bad tendency to revert pages the way that he wants them, reguardless of whether his edits are correct and factual or not. I just want to make sure that, after putting up an IDRIVE request and finally getting the R&B page fixed up, that it stays factual and accurate. Thanks. --FuriousFreddy 14:46, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

TUF-KAT, I know you and Freddy are pals, so I might be wasting my time here, but no, I don't revert pages to the way I "want" them (Freddy, on the other hand just did and I have had a history of dealing with his behavior in this fashion). I think Freddy has some issues with the way some articles are handled here, because the articles he wants expansion on don't have many volunteers. He's misplacing his anger particuarly at me often at times, and he's trying to act like he owns the R&B page now. I don't think my edits were inaccurate, and if he felt they were, he should have pointed it out, and said something to indicate what the problem was, instead of just deleting wholesale. OmegaWikipedia 18:07, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


 * OmegaWIkipedia has, on several occasions, reverted edits by Mel Etitis and anyone else who attempted to do any sort of cleanups or edits to "his" Mariah Carey articles. Such can be proven in the history for . I never do any reverts of anything that is factual and helpful to an article. I do not own the R&B page, but for as long as I am working on it, it will be made accurate. --FuriousFreddy 23:58, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * TUF-KAT, Freddy once again is ranting and twisting things to make me seem like the enemy. My reverts with Mel Etitis have nothing to do with cleanup, and mostly about how to write numbers. Freddy on the other hand, I've noted does have a history which can be proven (even on the R&B talk page) of ranting irrrationally making it hard for anyone to edit an article in which he's involved on.

TUF-KAT, do me a favor. Can you revert the page to before any edits were made today, by me or anyone else, and lock it please? We will attempt to straighten this out in a diplomatic fashion. --FuriousFreddy 23:58, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


 * The big problem is with the supposed "subgenres" of R&B that identify the work of only one or two artists, and with the (very very incorrect) "current" and "extinct" designation. If you can, remove the "Reggae influenced R&B" or whatever it says section, integrate it into the text for the current form of R&B, and remove the section on "hip-pop" (which is a made-up identification; hip-pop is pop rap (and pop rap is another article in serious need of attention). I'd make all of these changes myself, but I think I'd be violating the 3RR rule. I don't have a problem with OmegaWikipedia editing the article, but I do have a problem with him adding incorrect information or original research to it. --FuriousFreddy 01:41, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I'd be seriously flattered if you thought if I came up with the term hip-pop, but no, I didn't. Did you not see the talk page? And how many artists do you want in those subgenres? God, when I added more artists, you whined. When I add a few, you whine. Some people can't be satisfiedOmegaWikipedia 01:58, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Bloodshy & Avant
Ok, I don't have time to do this and you might be the right person to ask. I've noticed when Avant is listed as a producer (especially for Madonna and Britney singles), he's linked to the R&B producer Avant. I'm pretty sure that this is a different person from the Avant who is half of Bloodshy and Avant. So yeah, Ideally that would become fixed :-) --Camipco 21:08, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Perfect, thanks. The disam addition I didn't think of, but that because I'm a noob. --Camipco 21:07, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

R&B
Not a problem. I don't want ot break the 3RR, so I'll just post any suggestions I have on the talk page. --FuriousFreddy 02:19, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your reply, TUF-KAT. I'll go look at the talk page right now. Can something be done about the status of the page to prevent it from being locked? It seems that since you refused Freddy is going around and asking admins to lock it. I feel there may be an unfair lock as one of the admins that Freddy asked is a user that is currently in a debate over numbers with me. Freddy knows that and it seems like he is using it to his advantage to help increase his chances of getting it locked. OmegaWikipedia 03:44, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

One last thing re:R&B
I changed a reference to "urban contemporary" to "contemporary R&B"> Is it okay if I take the darned Black Eyed Peas out of the "urban pop" section (they are rappers, save for the new girl), and replace them with someone who fits the decription (possibly The Pussycat Dolls?) --FuriousFreddy 19:36, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Bureaucratship
Hi, TUF-KAT. Thank you so much for your support and kind words on my bureaucratship nomination. Unfortunately, it didn't pass, but I intend to run again soon. If you'd like to be informed next time around, please let me know on my talk page. Thanks again! Andre ( talk ) 05:22, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi TUF-KAT:

Thanks for support and your confidence in me in my recent RFB nomination. I'm now WP's newest bureaucrat, joining your ranks. :) Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  20:11, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

Nigeria, Hungary
Hi, nice to meet you, and I've seen you quite a bit too. It's a small wikipedia, no? I'm addicted to it. I'll check those articles out. No ideas about photos; usually I write to the photographer if I want to use a photo, and they usually say it's fine. I'm not sure if you want photos of trad. or pop things, but in the case of Afro-pop maybe a European or North American promoter or record company would have publicity photos that they'd share, with the incentive that it will promote their artist. Badagnani 05:00, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Abellio
Hi, its going a long way back but you were the original author for the first few revisions of Abellio, such as this one. I'm wanting to improve that article and Iam looking for whatever sources you may have used. I have tracked down the actual inscriptions, none of them conflates with Apollo - what is our source for that in particular? I know its dredging back a long way, but it would help if you can tell me. --Nantonos 21:46, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Proper Nouns
Regarding your edits to my changes to the Folk Music Groups

Proper Nouns can include groups of people. Titles can also be capitalized. As such i would appreciate it if you would go back and revise your revisions.

bga

P.S. as a quick reference ... http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000045.htm

postscript
Having read the Chicago Manual of Style guidelines I thought that Folk Music Groups could be classed as a title (or a proper noun). Having read the category primer about capitalization again ... you're right.

Music of Nigeria pics
Hi, TUF-KAT. Tony1 asked me if I knew of any possible sources of images for the Music of Nigeria article. My response is on my talk page. Check it out and let me know if you need any help. BrianSmithson 18:25, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Spoo
Hello! Just a heads-up - I've responded to and addressed your objection over at Featured article candidates/Spoo/archive1. Thanks for your time! --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 03:43, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Blocking users?
I was going to leave the message on User talk:212.219.250.3 - creating an article for an obscure-but-genuinely-notable person like Mojzesz Presburger which is prima facie plausible, but after a few seconds' thought is revealed as utter nonsense, is a very subtle form of vandalism - only to find that the page creator has already been warned repeatedly, including. Time for a block? DS 14:21, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

How we got the blues?
Hey T.K. Still waiting for any further comments on my thoughts on the origins of the term "the blues". Would appreciate your thoughts. Fergananim 17:32, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

uploading sound files?
Tuf-kat, I wonder whether you can direct me to a page on Wikipedia that will tell me how to upload sound files, and before that to translate them into ogg files? Tony 12:09, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

I've found the relevant pages, but no tutorial on formatting as there is for images. I wonder whether you'd mind having a look at my insertion the top of Johann Sebastian Bach; is the copyright thing OK in the text box? Would it be better to go for copyright, as I see elsewhere on sound files? Tony 14:53, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Changes to some talk pages template
Hi Tuk-Kat. I just wanted to let you know I changed some music-related talk page template: Template:Omnimusica, Template:Omnimusica-can, Template:Genre, and Template:WikiProject:World music. They now conform to the talk page standard (and they look a lot nicer now too!). The only one where I changed the content was on Template:WikiProject:World music, which contained a list of things-to-do related to the project. The list itself was rather obtrusive, to the point where (I noticed) it had previously been complained about on Template talk:WikiProject:World music. I felt this was an inappropriate for a talk page template (seeing as how it is mirrored on dozens and dozens of unrelated talk pages), so I removed it. &rarr;Raul654 05:54, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

American popular music
I added a section to this article about early recorded music. I saw this was peer-review so I thought I would notify you of this. I will try to read the entire article over tomorrow and tell you what I think of it. Rt66lt 03:55, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Fake color articles
Because of the complexity of the vote at the above AfD, I have attempted to break down the individual votes on the AfD talk page. If I have misunderstood your vote with respect to any of these, please correct it. Cheers! -- BD2412 talk 12:54, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Fake color articles
Because of the complexity of the vote at the above AfD, I have attempted to break down the individual votes on the AfD talk page. If I have misunderstood your vote with respect to any of these, please correct it. Cheers! -- BD2412 talk 12:54, 18 September 2005 (UTC)