User talk:TUF-KAT/archive 9

WP1.0 FAF
Hi,

I'm planning on posting a progress report on the WP 1.0 project, so people can see what's been done on the four subprojects so far. We have a couple of small milestones that seem to be worth mentioning. I can see that there has been plenty of activity at Featured_article_review, I wondered if you could give me some statistics like "X articles OK as they are, another Y articles need checking, of which Z have so far passed review". I'm hoping this sense of making progress will in turn attract more people to work on the subprojects. Can you give me some info? Thanks for your hard work, Walkerma 19:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Featured Music Project review request
Hi Tuf-Kat, I just requested a peer review for the New Radicals article and it would be great if you could also review the article for your Featured Music Project and put it up at the ongoing status page. --Fritz S. (Talk) 15:33, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Fritz S. (Talk) 20:13, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Cuban Music Template
Just a heads up - two articles that are in the Cuban Music template, Yuka and Descarga, previously redirected to unrelated topics, but have been corrected. I unfortunately do not know enough about these genres to help much, and right now they look pretty stubby. - AKeen 16:27, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Bulbasaur
Your criticisms of Bulbasaur have been addressed. --Cel e stianpower háblame 17:27, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Please adopt your state
I have now completed the transition from state list to articles on Scouting in each state, as per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting/RulesStandards, for merger and improvement of articles. Please find your state and help fill in some blanks! Thanks, YiS, Chris 09:41, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:StrummerCashRedemptionSong.ogg
Thanks for uploading Image:StrummerCashRedemptionSong.ogg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this:.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact Carnildo or ask for help at Wikipedia talk:Image copyright tags. Thank you.

Wanyika bands
Wanyika bands is not a specific type of band or a style of music, but a group of bands that split from the original band, Simba Wanyika. Simba Wanyika split, then some of the offshoots in turn split. Many of the offshoots kept the name Wanyika. My attempt is to clear some of the confusion by describing the chronology of these bands, and by describing which groups split from which etc. Naming the page "Wanyika band" instead of "Wanyika bands" is not right. The dab page Wanyika is not good either because Les Wanyika is just one of many of these bands. --Ezeu 19:10, 29 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. list of Wanyika bands sounds better. --Ezeu 19:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

History of Miami, Florida
I fixed some of your concerns there The main problem is that I can't find much information on the Native Americans of the area. Thanks --Jaranda wat's sup 23:34, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I fixed most of your concerns of the FAC (and I commented on the rest). Can you please look through it again- thanks, AndyZ 01:15, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Music of Italy
Hello, again. At

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Music_of_Italy#My_kingdom_for_an_outline.21

I have put up a proposal for rearranging that article. Thank you for your advice. Jeffmatt 07:24, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
With your vote of support, the Bob McEwen article was made a featured article this morning. Thanks for your vote. PedanticallySpeaking 16:40, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Featured article
Just to inform you that an article you've edited before (History of Portugal (1777-1834)) is nominated for featured article. If you want you can vote or comment here. Thanks. Gameiro 04:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Music of Italy redone
I followed your advice. The result is at Music of Italy. Also see the discussion behind the article. Jeffmatt 18:31, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Your vote on the RFR poll
Hi, TUF-KAT, you voted oppose on the requests for rollback privileges consensus poll, suggesting that people who would like rollback should just become admins instead - that being an admin is "no big deal". While I think that in an "ideal" Wikipedia, this would indeed be the case, I believe that over time standards for becoming an administrator have clearly risen. This is apparent by looking at the RFA system throughout Wikipedia's existence - intially, all one had to do to become an admin was just ask nicely, now we have a complicated procedure. A recent proposal on the RFA talk page for requiring at least 30 minimum support votes and a significant number of existing contributions was given some serious consideration. There is frequent talk of "bad admins slipping through the RFA net", and while you may not agree with that philosophy of adminship it is undeniable that the standards have risen.

Because of this, candidates who pass are already very experienced with Wikipedia. While this in itself is no bad thing, it means that for the month or so before they become admins they are not being given the tools an admin has which would help them to improve Wikipedia, by removing vandalism and performing administrative tasks such as moving pages. The qualities which make a good administrator are not determined by length of stay on Wikipedia or number of friends you have, but by personality and character. Time at Wikipedia only gives familiarity with the way things are done here. However, being at Wikipedia for an extra month doesn't grant any special insight into the ability to determine which edits are vandalism and which are not. This is why I believe that we should hand out rollback to contributors who are clearly here to improve Wikipedia but won't pass the RFA procedure because of their percieved lack of familiarity with policy by some Wikipedians. I think that adminship should be no big deal, like you, however I see just two ways to make sure Wikipedians can quickly and efficiently remove vandalism - either by all those who believe adminship should be no big deal involving themselves much more in RFA, or by supporting this proposal and giving out rollback to good contributors who have not yet been here long enough to become admins. We have to remember that our ultimate aim here is to produce an encyclopedia, and we should balance the idealism of "adminship should be no big deal" with the pragmatism of granting rollback to our best non-admin contributors. I would be very grateful if you would reconsider your viewpoint on this issue. Thanks, Talrias (t | e | c) 13:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Trecento music
Hi Tuf-Kat! Hey, thanks for noticing! You're right about it needing sound clips; I'm not sure where to get them, or what the rules are (there's almost certainly nothing that is public domain--we'd have to get by with one of the other ways). I could always make fake files, i.e. sampled sounds converted to .ogg, but I have avoided doing that so far. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 21:32, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

GA
Looks like 677 articles have the GA template; apparently you counted 500-something listed on the GA page. Any idea where the discrepancy comes from? Just someone's failure to update the GA page? Any way to fix this without checking each of the 677 articles to see if they are listed? ike9898 22:05, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's the sort of tedium a program could deal with. By the way, I've been seeing your edits more recently than I had for long spell - I first became aware of you way back when there was a controversy regarding your former username!  See you around ike9898 22:21, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

FMP
Great job on this project, I really like it. It's well-organized. You should mention it on all the music-related Wikiprojects. Also, is FMP a WikiProject? If so you should categorize it as such and add it to the list. :) Gflores Talk 20:01, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Image:Tito Rodriguez.JPG
How you doing? Thank you for dropping a line in regard to the image. The Puerto Rican Institute of Culture is an institution which belongs to the government of Puerto Rico. It's contents and images are Public Domain as long as they are not used for personal gain and are used for educational purposes. Since there isn't a Puerto Rican Government Public Domain tag in Wiki. Then we use the United States Public Domain tag, considering that Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States. I hope that this takes care of the situation and that we aviod the deletion of the images of Puerto Ricans right and left. Take care my friend Tony the Marine 22:29, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Is that what the page you linked to says? That page looks like it says the image is copyrighted either by the author or the Institute, either way all rights reserved. Works of state governments are not usually PD, so if Puerto Rico's are, that's unusual.  Is there a page somewhere about that? Tuf-Kat 22:38, 4 February 2006 (UTC)


 * This shouldn't be such a big deal. Generalmente los materiales producidos por las agencias y corporaciones públicas del Estado Libre Asociado de Puerto Rico son de dominio público. Sin embargo, algunos materiales han sido donados u obtenidos por individuos u organizaciones y su uso pudiera estar restringido. Este portal contiene información que es protegida por derechos de propiedad intelectual y derechos morales de autor. Por esta razón, el Instituto de Cultura Puertorriqueña posee los derechos propietarios sobre todo el contenido que aparece en este portal, por lo cual, dicho contenido es propiedad intelectual del Instituto de Cultura Puertorriqueña.  If there was a problem I'll personally take full responsibility.  I've dealt with the institute before and I've never had any problems.  Tony the Marine 04:53, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Music of Italy Redux
Since you have taken an interest in the Music of Italy article, I have spent a bit of time on it. Is it--in its current state--sort of approaching what you had in mind? Jeffmatt 18:48, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Music infobox
I noticed that you have been removing infoboxes for rock and metal categories. How are they "inappropriate?" You are only doing this to rock and metal music genres&mdash;are you prejudiced? RJN 00:16, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * He's not exclusively deleting the rock and metal boxes....did you look at his contibutions? But I was curious as to why you were doing this as well, I looked on the project page, but couldn't see reasoning behind it (Forget it I see what you are doing, sorry). maxcap
 * I think it's great that you're doing this by the way, it's probably going to save a lot of headaches over folks arguing what is considered what genre and so on and so forth maxcap 02:38, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Template:pop
You've removed this template from other articles, so I proposed a deletion of this template for you. Why do you believe that this is "inappropiate"? Gh87 09:50, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Template:Heavymetal
What the heck? I don't hav e the time to follow you about reverting you, but... this sucks! Sam Spade 15:37, 9 February 2006 (UTC)


 * WikiProject Music genres is pretty clear -- only the top-level genre page (e.g. heavy metal music) gets the infobox. That's exactly how every other infobox on the wiki works AFAIK. Tuf-Kat 15:44, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

In my experience WikiProject Music genres is aplace where one or 2 arrogant people make decisons for the rest of us, suggesting that being members of a wiki-project grants them sort of final say (I am unaware of wiki-projects having any actual official authority). Maybe I'm just jaded, see my experience here. Either way I completely disagree with what your doing. I see no possible benifit, but plenty of inconvenience and instruction creep. So... outside of some obscure guideline on a wikiproject w 3 members... why are you doing this?Sam Spade 15:51, 9 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music_genres. Cheers, Sam Spade 16:34, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Music of Italy three-dux
You're probably being irritated (above), so no hurry on this. I have taken a different tack on the Music of Italy lead and characteristics section. I'll work through the rest. No hurry. Breathe deep. Cheers from Naples. Jeffmatt 16:09, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Pink Floyd
Thanks for the assessment on the Pink Floyd talk page. I didn't know about the featured music project or I would have taken it to you guys before listing it on the Featured Articles candidates list. Most of the issues I can easily address.

The pictures are a larger problem (only one is left which has been tagged for lack of copyright information; the rest are album covers (as I understand it, covered under fair use) and a promo picture from Live 8 which has full information.

I'm wondering if you (or someone from the project) can provide some guidance on the issue of pictures. My knowledge of copyright law is nil, and last night, the latest in a series of 4 or 5 pictures was removed from the top right of the article. The most recent was an excellent picture from the era where both Barrett and Gilmour were in the band. While the source was available, copyright information was not. I've seen this picture in many print and online magazines (Rollingstone.com, AMG), yet have no idea how to go about finding out who actually owns the copyright on these images. If you know of a source for usable promotional pictures (I'd take any picture of the band for use in the top right at this point), or there's an editor on the WP who is especially knowledgeable in this issue, could you let me know? - dharmabum 23:16, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tips. I've scoured Flickr and many other sources with no luck. I notice that the main photo in The Beatles article has been taken from exactly the same Rolling Stone database and it appears to have passed muster as a copyrighted publicity photo used in absence of a free alternative, so I'll try using one of theirs (the image I was referring to was taken from a fan site, not Rolling Stone, I've just seen it there). Part of the problem is how infrequently the Floyd members have been photographed. - dharmabum 23:36, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey again - I'm a little unclear from the project page how to go about having the article re-evaluated, as it's been heavily overhauled. I get the impression I'm supposed to go in and just edit the evaluation page, then the status page myself. I presume someone involved with the project will then check to make sure I'm correct in removing the problems. Have I got the right idea? - dharmabum 05:34, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick response... I went ahead and made the changes. Thanks for all the suggestions and help - it looks pretty hopeful the article will make FA after these suggestions and the ones in the FA proper. - dharmabum 06:26, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I just wanted to let you know that Pink Floyd is now a featured article. Thanks again for all the suggestions and help that helped get it there! - dharmabum 23:13, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:SnoopDogg.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:SnoopDogg.jpg. The image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use GFDL to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the image qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. -- Carnildo 07:37, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Wayne Gretzky
I made the changes you suggested. Thanks for the input! RasputinAXP talk contribs 15:00, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

"Lead" suggestion
(Tuf, I posted this on the Featured Music Project discussion page [], too, but incase you don't regularly monitor that page, I thought I'd post here as well. Thanks!) --Ataricodfish 08:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Tuf-Kat, can I make a suggestion for a possible change in the Lead requirements of the "Featured Music Project"? Both myself (with the Phil Collins article) and User:dharmabum (with the Pink Floyd article) have votes going on for FAC (at [] and [], respectively). So far, the reviews have generally been positive, but it has been noted in both of our reviews by two different reviewers that the lead's were too long. Both articles originally had four paragraphs in the lead, as was suggested here, but we both have been referred to WP:LEAD with its recommendation of 3 paragraphs. As such, I believe it would be better to decrease the Music Project lead requirement, or L1, from 2-4 paragraphs to 2-3 paragraphs.

Let me know what you think!

--Ataricodfish 08:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Phil Collins
Just a quick thank you again for your vote of support for Phil Collins during its FAC review. I just learned that it won its nomination. (For the final results, see []). Thank you again for taking the time to review it, and again, thank you for reviewing the article as many times as you did. Your help is much appreciated. --Ataricodfish 06:54, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia in Tetum

 * Help building a Wikipedia in Tetum, the national language of East Timor. Give your contribution to the improvement of its test page -- Regards, 195.23.53.121 11:27, 15 February 2006 (UTC) Manuel de Sousa

Asian American jazz
I don't know why I did that. I'll delete it. Thanks! Badagnani 06:18, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Article for Deletion
Greetings. You may be interested in voting on Articles for deletion/Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse (image free). Thanks. --Descendall 01:19, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Latvian mythology
Hi, I spent some time today merging stubs about Latvian mythology into the main article. It seems that almost all those stubs were created by you a very long time ago. So I wonder what was your source, because I find some information doubtful. Thanks, Renata 02:36, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

question
Whats the best way to link to sound files in an article? Thanks, --Urthogie 13:40, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * anyway to make the samplebox align left?--Urthogie 20:07, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually i think its possible to set default values, etc, but also make it possible to set, right?--Urthogie 20:35, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Should I post it up at village pump (technical) or the wikiproject?--Urthogie 21:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * A kind soul(User:Paolo Liberatore) set up optional paramaters, once I posted on the Village pump. Example:  (all fields optional).  Cool!--Urthogie 21:05, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Talk talk:Pre-historic art
This article looks to me like an attempt to post at Talk:Pre-historic art that went horribly, horribly wrong. I've copied the entire contents to the talk page. Reyk 05:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Progressive Rock in the 21st Century
Hello...my AFD is receiving no attention when all of the others around it already have several comments. Why is that? I have made significant changes to attempt to meet guidelines and provide relevency. Could you please review it again? --Flonkus 13:31, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

project
Tuf-Kat—I'll look into joining after my work deadline, which is 3 March. Tony 09:29, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

featured music project
The thing is i've been putting most of my time into the main pages that get the most links to them. However, there are some artists I've been planning to make better articles for, namely: Kid n' Play and DJ Hollywood.--Urthogie 10:16, 23 February 2006 (UTC)�

your two cents
Articles for deletion/Futuristic Sex Robotz. Seems like non-notable music group to me. Your two cents would be welcomed.--Urthogie 13:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

First Union Jam
Hi. Your creation First Union Jam has been nominated for deletion. See Articles for deletion/First Union Jam. Punkmorten 14:46, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

hyphenation of hip hop
Hi Tuf-Kat,

You have obviously done a lot of work with hip hop music, and I'd like your opinion on whether or not the article title should be hyphenated. The issue was brought up in the past and never concluded, and I'd like to continue talking about it. If you would like to comment, please go here. Thanks. thejabberwock 05:42, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help, and for being open-minded. thejabberwock 03:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Thomas Jefferson's DNA vs Pop Music
Ok, so why is pop music encyclopedic and Jefferson's haplotype, (and the role it played in a historical genealogical controversy along with the relationship he had with a slave) is not encyclopedic?

Thanks, Sandwich Eater 19:46, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help
Hi, TUF-KAT, Thanks for taking care of renaming my article on the 7th Cavalry Drum and Bugle Corps. This is my first article and there were a few things I couldn't figure out.

Also, how does the article look? Do you have any suggestions on how to make it better? Thanks. Mentalavenger 19:35, 27 February 2006 (UTC) (this is also my first discussion message, hope I get it right)

David Bridie
I have rewritten this article to establish notability. It still needs more work which I hope to do over the weekend. Nevertheless, I would be grateful if you could take a look. Capitalistroadster 05:21, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Bulbasaur FAC
Try this on for size! --Cel es tianpower háblame 18:06, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

FMP observations
Although I only have one data point, it seems that fixing a WP:LEAD seems to involve first getting the article organized coherently. Even a brilliant summary of an incoherent article will need to be re-written when the rest of the article is restructured. I enjoyed my "massive overhaul" of Captain Beefheart, (and received some pleasing feedback on it -- yay me!), but I thought I would raise this point in case the FMP has an editor sign up who really only wants to work on the article lead. If that happens, I suggest it makes sense to direct them to articles that already have a good, stable body. Jkelly 19:40, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Music of Nigeria
Considering that Music of Nigeria has been a featured article for quite some times, I can't help thinking the Nigerianmusic template could use some improvement. It lacks most of the standard sections found in western musicboxes, and has two red links for "samples" and "Timelines", both of which should be pretty easy to fill out. Circeus 02:47, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

re: Format/style on Marvin Gaye
In all honesty, the article needs a thorough rewrite. I know enough about Marvin Gaye to know that the article isn't quite as in-depth as needed about his life story. I don't have all the free time I used to to be able to do such a rewrite; can we draft someone to do it? --FuriousFreddy 01:57, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

re: Music of Italy
I've left the article alone for a few days. Doesn't look too bad, though are certainly things left to do. It still has no categories, nor does it appear on your music pages under Central Europe. Have a look when you get a chance. Cheers. Jeffmatt 06:46, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Just wanted to thank you for your help and support in getting the New Radicals article to featured status. --Fritz S. (Talk) 10:29, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

sound excerpts problems?
Hi Tuf-Kat

One of the music project people (Rob) says he's read my stuff about copyright and fair use at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers, and thinks it's misinformed.

Can you read it please, and let me know if it needs to be changed? The same advice should do for both projects, don't you think (perhaps with a few changes here and there for yours)? Tony 04:10, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Georgia Theatre
An article you started, Georgia Theatre, has been proposed for deletion. Please see the article for details. NickelShoe 04:51, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey there
Hey Tuf-Kat, I recently joined wikipedia and wrote made some major additions to this article: American Boychoir School. It needs some review and copyediting since it was my first major contribution. Could you help me out? Thanks, Wangster 04:06, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Music of Ancient Greece
Hello, again. While working on the Ancient Roman music, I decided to expand (per the request) the article on Music of Ancient Greece. It seemed the logical thing to do since Music of Italy has a link to Ancient Roman music that, in turn, has a link to Ancient Greek music. It'll take some time. BTW, I don't know that the Music of Italy article is "finished," but we might put a category at the botom. Whenever you get time. Cheers.Jeffmatt 07:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

re peer review
Re Music of Italy. Thanks for the note. I'll try to figure that peer review page out and get one started. You mean External peer review and not Article assessment, I guess. Jeffmatt 07:05, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for instructions. Done. It shoud be near the top of the list at Peer review. We shall see what happens.Jeffmatt 15:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Kiwa, goddess of shellfish
A long time ago, you wrote:
 * In Polynesian mythology, Kiwa is the goddess of shellfish.

Kiwa is in the news at the moment, because of the recent discovery of Kiwa hirsuta, an unusual deep-sea decapod named after the goddess. I am trying to find out more about the Polynesian Kiwa, but I am drawing a blank. I've found a reference to a Maori Kiwa, lord of the Pacific Ocean, but no Polynesian Kiwa. Can you remember what your source was for your Wikipedia article? Gdr 17:39, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Gdr 10:01, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Cat Stevens
Thanks for adding the Featured Music Project evaluation for Cat Stevens. I'm going to try to get the article to featured status, and just wanted to let you know I've started a peer review to get started: Peer review/Cat Stevens/archive1. Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Thanks! Mrtea (talk) 17:45, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:DJKoolHerc.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:DJKoolHerc.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then you can use GFDL-self to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stan 15:58, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Music of Lithuania
Thanks, I'm trying to add references properly. I will appreciate your suggestions. Sigitas 10:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Mariah Carey
Hi Tuf-Kat. I noticed that you evaluated the Mariah Carey article as part of the Featured Music Project. I was wondering if you could take another read of the article and leave a comment at Peer review/Mariah Carey/archive2, as it's gone through a lot of major changes and I think some of them may have resolved your concerns. Also, you write lots of high-quality articles related to music and your input would be much appreciated as I'm considering taking it to WP:FAC. But if you are too busy or don't want to for whatever reason, then that's fine. Thanks. Extraordinary Machine 00:31, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:JaRule.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:JaRule.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the GFDL-self tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading fair use, and then use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. feydey 00:05, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Peer Review
I am aware that you are active in writing featured music-related articles. The article Music of Italy has a peer review open at Peer review/Music of Italy/archive2 and would benefit from a few comments by you. --maclean 25 08:25, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

music box
Hi, any reason to delete the list of music festivals? Jeffmatt 06:16, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


 * oops...my mistake. I see you moved it as red link over to the left. I redirected that to page. I put up a charts link.Jeffmatt 08:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello
I have seen you all aroun, but talking to you perhaps for the first time. Right now, I saw you as the initiator of Surya, and came to say a hello to you. --Bhadani 14:44, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes I could understand - but, by seeing your stub, I understand the distance wikipedia has since travelled. --Bhadani 14:37, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

slight clarification regarding nerdcore discussion
should i not edit the nerdcore page anymore because i have some sort of bias? a user in discussion is accusing me of biased edits, even though i am only following the rules. dont know how much you are following that topic of discussion anyway, but some clarification would be nice because uglinessman is being a massive dong. Ytcracker 00:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

FMP evaluation for Fenix*TX
I've recently been doing a lot of work on the Fenix*TX article, and I think it might be ready for FAC. I've also already had it peer-reviewed, so I was wondering if you would mind evaluating the article based on your standards? --HarryCane 16:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

"New Orleans Hip-hop"
I understand your reason for moving "New Orleans Rap" to "New Orleans Hip-hop" but I think doing so actually ignores some fundamental qualities of the genre. Apart from hip-hop, New Orleans rap, like much of southern rap, cannot be accurately called hip-hop. I guess a decent analogy would be comparing hard-core heavy metal to Rock & Roll. While it is generally accepted by most to call the former the latter, it is much less infomative than it could be. I just don't think it is accurate to call all rap "hip-hop" and I think this especially becomes an issue when dealing with the New Orleans genre. Simply put, I can cite several New Orleans rap songs whose lyrics explaim "this ain't no mother f_____ hip-hop" or someting quite close. I would make a distinction, even, between East Coast gangsta rap and the genre I am talking about. The issue isn't how "gangsta" it is, but that hip-hop is an over-rated, over-generalizing, and over-labled topic. It's largely an elitest East-Coast creation that has been made into something of national importance, when in fact, regions like the south have refused to embrace it and have made under-appreciated brands of their own who outsiders generally liken to hip-hop and then have the nerve to call "primitive". Wbbigtymer 20:56, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

genre guidelines
Hey TUF-KAT,

I put some ideas for guidelines for music genre notability on Wikipedia talk:Notability (music) in case you didn't notice already. Please have a look at it and comment on it

cheers Spearhead 20:25, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

A bunch of your articles are up for deletion.
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Check out the articles up for deletion on March 28, and you'll find that a very large group of articles you authored on Polynesian mythology are up for deletion. I thought you ought to know. Brian G. Crawford 03:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Ahoeitu
You may want to check this out, since you seem to have created or edited some or all of the articles under discussion. dbtfz talk 03:10, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Music of.... what?
user:Jeffmatt did some good work on Italian subdivision, but he accidentally created both Music of Emilia-Romagna and Music of Emilia Romagna, the latter of which is (Unless I'm mistaken) improperly named, but the only one filled. A move-over would be needed. Circeus 18:17, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Administrator?
I did at some point consider administratorship, but I have to say I am not sure at times how I could be of use as an administrator. But then that might be because it'sbeen a longwhile since I,ve dwelt in what being admin entitles. I know I abuse Wikipedia entirely, and it might spur that issue, but hey, I haven't been known to have priorities entirely straightened out in my life.

Nominate away, I'll deal with stuff as it comes. It's not like I haven't lived most of my life doing that. Circeus 00:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject: Alternative music
Hi, I was wondering if you'd be interested in participating in a Wikiproject devoted to alternative/indie music that I plan on starting soon. Thanks. WesleyDodds 05:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Why you keep reversing some guy's changes in Lithuanian Rock?
Current version of article is very poor, you deleted much better article. Let's use new one. If you delete something please start discussion on page Sigitas 09:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Encyclopedia Mythica
I was reading your comments about the Encyclopedia Mythica or whatever it calls itself, on the thread for deleting the Polynesian mythology articles. While I realise you were acting in good faith, I'm afraid the articles that come out of it on Celtic mythology set my BS detector off a lot, especially the Scotia one. I think it's an unreliable source (a bit like wikipedia!!!) all the best --MacRusgail 18:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Have you seen this WP:FAC ?
Featured article candidates/Rapping Jkelly 03:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Genesis PR
Hi TUF-KAT, the Genesis article is currently being peer reviewed. I like the article as it stands now but this is my first major overhaul of a music related article so I could definately use your insight and guidance in improving its quality. Any suggestions and recommendations you can provide will be greatly appreciated! Link: Peer review/Genesis (band)/archive1. AreJay 21:29, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

WP 1.0
Hey - Noticed you're working on the Version 1.0 project - would love to get involved since it's probably a whole lot more useful than my usual aimless editing and categorizing. If you could provide some guidance or a to-do list, I'd be thrilled to jump right into the project. Thanks, hope to hear from you! Paul 23:55, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Survey
I am conducting a survey on Wikipedia and would like to invite you to participate in the study. I've posted a message on wikien-l, but here is the link again in case you are not subscribed to that list-serv. Thanks a lot for your time! --Mermes 01:31, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Recommended "Seventh-day Adventistism" for speedy deletion
I put "Seventh-day Adventistism" up for speedy deletion. It was created by you as a redirect, and is currently not used. Ansell 09:07, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It was kept as it has google references which I forgot to check. Sorry about that! Ansell 01:44, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Hong Kong action cinema FAC
thx for your comments, the issues have been addressed now, can you take a look? cheers Zzzzz 22:03, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

1.0 "Release Version Qualifying"
Hi. I'm interested in feedback on Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Release Version Qualifying. It's essentially an idea to use a process similar to WP:FAC to identify and handle articles and lists that would go in a release version. Maurreen 18:31, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Situation of administrator abuse
Hi, I'm in a potentially awkward position with an Administrator. I have read the Wiki pages on dispute resolution but I'm still not sure how to proceed.

The Admin ContiE has a personal grudge against me for reasons I do not fully understand. He has been this way since I began frequenting wikipedia.

I have done work improving the furvert article. He has basically gone on a crusade against any edit I make. He controls every furry category article and several others ruthlessly. He is an iron fist and bans anyone he edit wars with. I had uploaded pictures and he deleted them with no talking. He seems to believe I am every person he has had an edit war against. He is always using personal attacks, calling me troll without reason. I uploaded them again and he voted them for deleted, but to his surprise the person who runs the images, thank you Nv8200p, found they were acceptable once I tagged them properly. Just recently he removed both the images without himself discussing it in the talk page (unless he was the same person who discussed only one) with the edit here  Then ContiE assumed bad faith, added his constant insult of troll in the talk page. It appears on a completed different wiki, a comedy one in all things, somebody else stole my username and I believe this was Conti himself and uploaded them. ContiE showed it as his reason. While vandalism like his, I would revert and mention it, he would ban me permanently if I undid his edit. That is why I am asking admins for help. He holds a couple of accounts on wikipedia and I think they are administrators so I have to be careful who I tell about this. Arights 06:31, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Genesis
Hi Tuf-Kat, the Genesis PR is for the most part complete and I like the way the article stands as of now. I was wondering if you could help me by evaluating the article on FMP criteria? Also any other feedback on the article is more than welcome. Thanks AreJay 01:46, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Bob Dylan
What do you think of this FA? Jkelly 19:25, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

forró article
Hiya, I put some stuff up on the discussions page of the forró article...just wanted a little feedback if that's cool. Cheers, Victoria

Alpha Phi Alpha
Thanks for all the good suggestions on how to improve the article. I have a question regarding the use of the quote boxes. Administrator Brenneman suggest I use the article History of Michigan State University as a reference for improving the article during peer review. I got the idea and html code directly from this article which is a featured article and I can only assume has an encyclopedic tone. Is your suggestion regarding the quote boxes a pesonal choice or are they prohibited from Featured Articles? Alos, I know your time is valuable, but if you come across sections where you can improve the tone, please feel free to do so. I will start to work on your suggestions. I appreciate you efforts and candor. Ccson 01:13, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I have attempted to address all your concerns except the use of the quote boxes. I am waiting on your review of the article History of Michigan State University which uses quote boxes before addressing this issue. thanks again for you help. Ccson 03:06, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Raul has removed the article from FAC, however; the quote boxes have been removed and hopefully all the other concerns have been addressed. Can you strike thru the corrections on the subpage so that we can resolve your issues before renominating the article in about 1 weeks? Also, I apoligize for saying your "exhaustive" list. You were responding to some of Fieari's comments, so I just assumed you were the one who I was responding to. I didn't really notice the IDs in my haste to make changes and timely respond. Ccson 17:02, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Scouting article work
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Userboxes
Just saw your page, I hate userboxes personally - even the "i dont like userboxes" one. i hate them. SECProto 00:43, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

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True dat
No userboxes for me either! I don't even employ the "userboxes are retarded" userbox! — THIS IS M ESSED OCKER  (TALK) 23:36, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Red-Linked Blues, Jug Band, and Gospel Musicians
Here are some, all in red as of today, May 1st, 2006: Blind Mamie Forehand, Hattie Hart, Mississippi Shieks, Tom Dickson, Will Shade, Nugrape Twins, Roosevelt Graves, Teewee Blackman, Charlie Burse, Will Batts, Richard Rabbit Brown, Kate McTell, Louis Lasky, Papa Harvey Hull, Otto Virgial, Charlie Jordan, Mooch Richardson, Jed Davenport, Will Batts, Elijah Avery, Mattie Delaney, Luther Magby, Minnie Wallace, Daddy Stovepipe. Good luck and have fun! Catherineyronwode 01:40, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Lithuanian music
Yeah, go ahead. Actually, that's pretty important article. What I ment by "pop culture" is really some silly music band or some TV show or some other really not important and miscellanious topic. If you are really going into it, I suggest looking into folk music more than just modern folklore groups. There is this whole long story about songs. Much of Lithuanian mythology is reconstructed from those songs. Also, there is this thing sutartinės (no idea how to translate), but it's supposed to be quite unique types of songs (not sure if it really is). Collecting songs (i.e. writing them down on paper, because for the longest time it was only verbal thing) was very important in the 19th century for the birth of Lithuanian nation. So, there is much more story behind it. Modern folk groups really just imitate folk songs and is not a real thing. About modern times... Ugh... It's just basically pop copied from the West, nothing special really. So, let me know if you are going after this :) Ask my help, if you need anything, I will be glad to help. I know very little about music. I don't personally listen to any kind of music, I am a very visual person. Renata 02:41, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

FAs for Wikipedia 0.5
Hi, I'm putting together the list of articles for Wikipedia 0.5, the test release for Wikipedia 1.0. I have so far set up a rough draft nominations page (the review process needs fixing there). Can you let us know which FAs should not be included, on the grounds of POV disputes, etc? I am also posting at Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/FAs first, but I noticed Maurreen's last posting there drew no response to I thought I'd better contact you directly. Things are picking up speed, it looks like both 0.5 and 1.0 will be actively compiling lists this spring & summer, and the new bot is really going to help us handle lots of articles. Thanks, Walkerma 07:45, 2 May 2006 (UTC)