User talk:T L Miles/archive4

Moors
Hello T L Miles! I did not assume bad faith (in fact one could say that I always assume good faith from someone who support the Socialist Party USA...). And I do get your point on Moor being a portmanteau term. Still, this is an issue that must be taken with care, so as not to provoke any confusions. I agee tha the article is a mess. I just did some edits to clean up some obvious errors (confusing Spain with Iberia...), and introduce some missing links. If you have an overall proposal for the article, please let it be known! Thanks. See you around. The Ogre (talk) 14:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

African economy
Hi. I've started a full set of templates for each of the African economies at WikiProject Africa/Economy templates. Basically I see them as a good instrastructure to develop each of the economies on wikipedia. It gives us the chance to link case studies on many of the main exports/industries in the country was is very important as a vast proportion of the population is often involved in such industries. See for example Pineapple production in Côte d'Ivoire and how the template is used. Any help you can give on building up the templates with potential articles related to the economy, distributing the templates in the articles linked or filling in the red links for be much appreciated! For instance Template:Economy of Angola has some notable content already but potentially these templates can be crammed full with articles related to the economy by African country. Regards  ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦       "Talk"? 16:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Rtigroupe.PNG)
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Re: Almamy Almami, Almany, Almani (title) etc.
Hello T L Miles! I moved my article Almamy because the subject is professionaly known under this name, I write, edit, and expand articles on musical artists and Almamy is one of them. My subject has not released "two songs off myspace" like you said and is not a DJ but a notable recording artist from the New York City music scene who has commercially, and successfully, released four projects and received press coverage. The subject meets the requirements of notability

I absolutely understand your concern over my moving your article Almami and that the title of rulers of several large African states (from which Almamy does not take his name! It is his birth name)) is notable. But so is my article on a senegalese-born recording artist (who meets the requirements of notability) making a success of himself in the US music industry.

You are absolutely right, manually blanking pages and moving them was not good practice on my part but the intentions were not to vandalize. I did not quite know what I was doing until I received messages telling it was not the right way to operate.

Your article was already under the name Almami so I hope we can come to an understanding and that we'll agree that my article needs to be under the subject birth name, Almamy, for which he is also professionaly known.

P.S. I created a disambiguation page, Almamy (disambiguation), to group all the articles refering to the same name.

Bech86 (talk) 21:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Almamy (disambiguation)
Hello T L Miles! Here's the disambiguation page Almamy (disambiguation) I created to group all the articles, including some of yours, refering to the same name.

Bech86 (talk) 18:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

BBC IP edits
Hi,

There's no need to go saying things like "Perhaps the BBC may take no action over falsification of biographies of living people, but I hear their standards are a bit lower than Wikipedia's" or "BBC employees can't, apparently, be trusted not to vandalise things". Goading people isn't likely to stop them from editing, and nor is making attacks on their employers. If the issue is investigated by the BBC, it's probably better that we treat it as seriously as they should be. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:30, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I will go further and say I have no idea why you are presuming that this is vandalism or that someone at the BBC is trying to discredit wikipedia. Far more likely, someone at the BBC heard of this fact, couldn't be bothered to research it properly and so just added it to wikipedia to back them up. Lazy and bad journalism definitely, unacceptable addition to wikipedia that should be reverted on sight, definitely. But vandalism? No. An attempt to discredit wikipedia? Almost definitely not. It's rather unlikely anyone would be dumb enough to add inaccuracies to a wikipedia article then cite it in an article in their own paper then attempt to use that to discredit wikipedia since even if they hid their tracks better, it's still far more likely to discredit their paper then wikipedia when it comes out. In other words, if it's someone trying to discredit anything, it's far more likely to be someone at the BBC working to discredit the BBC. Nil Einne (talk) 18:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Looking into this further, it appears you are presuming someone at the BBC, with a racist agenda towards Africans, is trying to make it sound like they have big families and is using the BBC and wikipedia to further their goal. The only reason I can presume you belief this is because it was added to two articles on wikipedia. While this is remotely possible, it's an unnecessarily complicated rationale for what happened (Occam's razor). Far more likely, as I said above, someone heard that Kgalema Motlanthe ‎was in a thirteen children family but needed something to back it up. They probably told someone low down in the food chain to research it. This person may or may not have tried but whatever the case they eventually decided just to use wikipedia to back it up. Perhaps they confused the names or perhaps because they were totally clueless and didn't even know who the new president of South Africa was (as both were candidates to be the new President) or for whatever other reason; they added it to the wrong article. When they realised their mistake, they added it to the right article, not bothering of course to 'correct' their earlier addition. Adding unreferenced material to wikipedia is of course bad, particularly with BLPs. Adding unreferenced material and then using it to back up something you are writing is even worse. However since it's unlikely the person was trying to harm or introduce misinformation into wikipedia (indeed they probably believed it to be true), it's rather difficult to call this vandalism. You are quite right to revert the additions, and to take it up with the BBC and the IP. However accusing someone at the BBC of malice, when it's far more likely to be stupidity doesn't help the situation. This is already serious enough, without bringing complicated hidden agendas into it which just confuse the situation. P.S. I wrote this message before reading your reply. Nil Einne (talk) 19:19, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


 * (Read your reply now.) From what I've seen and read, journalists use wikipedia all the time (I've personally seen wikipedia referenced several times from respectable media although not from the BBC that I recall not that I visit the BBC that much). At least this one actually referenced wikipedia unlike many, including I suspect from the BBC, who use wikipedia as a source and then don't even mention it. It's a rather sad state of affairs to be sure, and there are a lot of people who do use wikipedia for malicious intent, but in this particular instance I would say it's rather unlikely. And I personally highly doubt it's the first time a BBC article has referenced wikipedia as a source. Remember as well that BBC changes their articles as they develop and unlike with us, there is no public edit history. The article in question no longer mentions wikipedia as I suspect with a number of other articles on the BBC. It's possible someone realised how dubious the information is with people (perhaps you?) writing to them about this. Or perhaps the BBC has a policy that wikipedia can only be used as a source for a short time and it must be sourced to wikipedia (if you are going to use wikipedia as a source, such a policy makes sense) and a better reference must be found to replace it (remember this was a highly important article, about the new President of one of the most important African countries, they would have been in a rush to get it out). Ultimately, it's unlikely we will never know but as I said above, don't proscribe malicious intent what can be put down to stupidity, especially with such limited evidence because 99 times out of 100 you will be wrong. (And besides that, it rarely helps the situation which is the main reason I'm a bit worked up about this) Nil Einne (talk) 19:52, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

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Hello
Hope you are doing well. I've created Category:Timbuktu. I see you;ve also expanded Senegalese wrestling, an article which I started. We now have images too! Great! The Bald One     White cat 19:44, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Cool. You know that there is now a website which has demo data on Senegalese settlements? I wonder if there is a similar one for Niger or Mali? There ar enumerous articles on French wikipedia which need starting and translating too. Combining severla sites and French wiki and any commons images now available we should be able to create some decent starter articles for Senegal. I started Mlomp the other day. Earlier I began filling out Template:Economy of Ghana with articles like the obscure Fan Milk ! The Bald One     White cat 20:10, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

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Regarding the BBC again
Hi again,

I'd be curious to know what you think of this. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 18:21, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Niger Air Force
Hello! My name is Muhammad Bilal Khan, I am from Pakistan and I am an avid fan of air force related topics. My special interest is in the history of exotic African air forces. I noticed that you edited the page of Military of Niger several times. So I had some questions about NAF.

According to the rebel blog which has been cited as a source, the helicopter(s) which went down on 27th June Mi-24s while you've maintained that it was Mi-17s. Which claim is correct? have you independently verified this claim in some way? and how many helicopter(s) were actually shot down on that day?

Any additional details/photos/whatever regarding NAF would be welcome. Thanks in advance. Badkhan (talk) 12:37, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Rollback/autorevert
Hi, I noticed this edit of yours. This is not vandalism, you might not agree with it, but do not revert it as vandalism. If you feel reverting is necessary, just revert it with an explanation why. Garion96 (talk) 04:19, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Fair use image question
Hi. Sorry for the disturbance but I noticed your comment on user Aspects talk page with whom I have a few ongoing problems. What is going on with these mass taggings? And why aren't the critical commentaries I provide enough? Do you have any idea? Thanks. Dr.K. (talk) 04:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Many thanks for your reply. I agree with you. He did reply here. But the answer wasn't very clear. I have provided critical commentary so I will revert his changes to the images and articles. Take care. Dr.K. (talk) 04:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for your welcome note
Hi TL Miles Thanks for your note. I was stimulated to join because of obvious errors in articles about Djenne and Mali etc. Wikipedia was spreading misinformation and many people, including myself, use Wikipedia as a convenient source of info. I aim to try to provide inline citations to suitable sources - but I'm not a specialist and will need to visit a library. Aa77zz (talk) 12:01, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

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Template: Niger River
Hi, I am just writing a note about a small change to the Niger River template, viz changing the row "Tributaries" to "Tributaries and distributaries", or else adding a new row "Distributaries". Cheers. --Mr Accountable (talk) 17:38, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
I hate barnstars. So many thanks for excellent work on Panicum turgidum. Mccready (talk) 00:18, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Malian Party of Labour
You deserve an award or something. You turned an article about a seemingly 'obscure' (to non-Malians) party into a good, detailed article. --Mrdie (talk) 05:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

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Mali and Mauritania
Hi, I've got around the starting on Mauritania and Mali, Niger and Senegal too, "your countries" on here, he need the help big time. I've started Communes of Mauritania and I'v ebeen doing some research and have found a list of 703 communes of Mali and population. So pretty soon we will have Mauritania and Mali covered adminstratively. Wanna help? Dr. Blofeld      White cat 17:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Check out Gory Gopela a commune of Mali I just started. I've started the other communes of Kayes too. I;ve found this. Probably about 400 of the communes once started could be written into equally long articles. One thing though can you clear up the difference between arrondissements and communes for Mali? I know that an arrondisement is a cluster of communes but oddly on the arrondisements page it lists the communes. Could you assert if this is correct? Also you may want to list all of the Communes of Niger as I've started a few tthat wer elinked. Next port of call though is to get all of the cercles started with nice infoboxes. I also added a box to your eastern rogue town article you recently started beginning with A and have made a flickr agreement and started an article using them for Kalabougou. I would suggest that you also contatc people on flickr to make agreements so we can dramatically improve our image content of these countries. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 13:10, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you won't respond but you can expand Anderamboukane using info from Anderamboukane at csa-mali.org. Check out the main page at the site here it has info on most of the communes of Mali, I;d appreciate any help in expand them using this. Given that I'm doing my best to get the communes started and I made maps of all of the cercles of Mali and started the rest I would hope you will respond to me, Thanks  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 15:57, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I've just meen making some more flickr agreements, You will be extremely pleased to see these images (this is what I've uploaded so far. This guy has around 1700 and counting images of really localised places in French west Africa, it has enabled me to add photos of some of the communes and villages. Check out his images on flickr particularly those of the Saharan landscapes -they are amazing. If we could make more flickr agreements I reckon combined with the site I mentioned we could do an awful amount of good for Mali on here at least.  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 22:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

If you could make a start on Template:Communes of the Kayes Region I am gradually working through adding all of the communes of Mali. I've just started Template:Communes of the Koulikoro Region From now on I will start them with the USAID link ready for later expansion. If we could somehow speed up the process with automated tools or something I reckon we could move very well. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 22:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello. Good news my flickr agreement is sorted, we can now upload any of Jacques images. Good image? Have you started on those communes yet? Dr. Blofeld      White cat 23:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Also means that your aarticles like Termit Massif Reserve can now have images!! Dr. Blofeld       White cat 23:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

AS Police
You are absolutely right. Sorry about that, reverted.--Dougofborg (talk) 22:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Category:1974 in Niger
The category in question was empty -- it had no pages in it -- so I blanked it. Empty categories are subject to speedy deletion after four days. Blanking the page serves two purposes: it puts (empty) in the page history to convince the deleting admin that the category was really empty at that time, and it alerts interested parties that the category may be speedily deleted. (No discussion is required for speedy deletion.) While you're welcome to revert the blanking, the category remains vulnerable to deletion as long as there are no pages in it. --Stepheng3 (talk) 18:29, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Dagaaba people
Hello! there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath and respond there as soon as possible.

DYK for Dagaaba people
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