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 * Thanks, . :) Tails   Wx  04:18, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

January GOCE drive
Thanks for your help; I saw you at the top of the leaderboard! I checked the first article you copyedited, and only one section (472 words) had been tagged; you took credit for 1,085 words, which looks like the entire article. (To get the word count for a section, click "Show preview" in edit mode and then "Page size" in the left menu if you have the script installed; otherwise, copy and paste the section into a word processor.) Please keep in mind that barnstars and leaderboard awards are secondary to article improvement. Thanks and all the best,  Mini  apolis  20:37, 15 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Oops, sorry about the confusion! I’ll correct it next time; thanks for pointing that out. Tails   Wx  21:40, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

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A cup of tea for you!

 * Thank you, ! Tails   Wx  16:43, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

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Ironic??
How is petition to ban Bbb23 ironic? And, did you sign it? 151.27.192.3 (talk) 01:00, 8 February 2023 (UTC)


 * 1) It is, because you are trying to ban them when they're an admin; and 2) no. Tails   Wx  01:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * What "petition"? Since when did someone begin making petitions to "ban" people? — Moops  ⋠ T ⋡ 01:02, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * , there was a petition to ban Bbb23 from Wikipedia, but I am not releasing any other information because of privacy concerns and the edit has been suppressed. I kind of felt that ironic, because, why ban a long-time editor and trusted admin? Tails   Wx  01:04, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Link: ht tps://www.change .org/p/ban-bbb23-from-editing-wikipedia Replyinger (talk) 01:08, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * What about this: https://wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1198&p=18184&hilit=California+bbb23#p18184
 * Does that make you want to ban him? Replyinger (talk) 01:10, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * No. Tails   Wx  01:11, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * So you support him violating the law? Replyinger (talk) 01:11, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * No. Bbb23 has violated no laws. Tails   Wx  01:12, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * By the way, Wikipedia has no "laws", are you aware also of WP:IAR? — Moops  ⋠ T ⋡ 01:12, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I meant US laws Replyinger (talk) 01:13, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Are US laws connected to Wikipedia? No. Tails   Wx  01:17, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh I see. A change.org petition, and it only has like 4 signatures. Nothingburger then I would say... — Moops  ⋠ T ⋡ 01:11, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I thought there was some new feature involving "wikipedia petitions" or something that I had not yet heard about. A change.org petition is a nothingburger. — Moops  ⋠ T ⋡ 01:12, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok capitalist Replyinger (talk) 01:12, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * What about my statement makes you say "Ok capitalist"? — Moops  ⋠ T ⋡ 01:14, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It had two yesterday Replyinger (talk) 01:12, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * So admins are fundamentally superior human beings who can do no wrong? You sound like a capitalist. Replyinger (talk) 01:07, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * No they are not. They are held to essentially the same standards as any other editor. — Moops  ⋠ T ⋡ 01:09, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * But you said "It is, because you are trying to ban them when they're an admin" Replyinger (talk) 01:11, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * How am I a capitalist? Admins aren't "fundamentally superior human beings" that can do nothing wrong. Admins are admins, and they protect the encyclopedia from disruptive editors like you, if you continue violating the harrassment policy. Tails   Wx  01:13, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia should have no admins Replyinger (talk) 01:14, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I might even support a move to have no admins, but we would need to think about how to re-org the bureaucracy of the project then. — Moops  ⋠ T ⋡ 01:16, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Why not? They can block disruptive editors, protect pages, and do lots of other administrator's stuff. I don't see why not. Tails   Wx  01:17, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Why not have a system where everything is voted on through direct democracy (not "consensus", meaning the elite always decide) Basic spam is handled by moderators with very limited powers and the WMF is run with workplace democracy? Replijk (talk) 01:21, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * WMF is not run with "workplace democracy". Please stop evading your block. Tails   Wx  01:22, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I said it SHOULD be, not that it is. Replijk (talk) 01:23, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Stop defending admins. Moops is on the right track by wanting to get rid of them. Replijk (talk) 01:24, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Why can't that be done democratically? Relayijk (talk) 01:35, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It's okay, he called me a capitalist too. I really don't know if this person knows what that word even means. — Moops  ⋠ T ⋡ 01:15, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Looks like they've been blocked by GeneralNotability. Man, I've never dealt with this much harrassment before. Tails   Wx  01:21, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Harassment? Bbb23 has harassed tens of thousands unlike me. Replijk (talk) 01:22, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Are there instances of this happening? 'Cause it isn't harassing. Tails   Wx  01:25, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * No, I did not even say that, Tails did. Just look up above. — Moops  ⋠ T ⋡ 01:20, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Resubmitted page: Gordon Dean Holman
Thank you for your feedback. Many new citations have been added and all citations now have internet links. As a result the entry is now much better and more interesting and hopefully now satisfies the Wikipedia requirements. Tropisun (talk) 18:45, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


 * No problem. However, the "Personal life" section is still unsourced. I'll suggest adding reliable sources to the section, then, I don't see much problems, but this is because I've only taken a skim through the draft. I'll look further into it :) Tails   Wx  18:48, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to cite personal information or the level of citation required. I don't know that I can cite a birth certificate.  Perhaps one of the existing citations can be repeated there?   Tropisun (talk) 19:03, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure, go for it. Tails   Wx  19:04, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Yun Kobe
Please read WP:DRAFTOBJECT. In thsi circumstance our route should be one of: Draftification can be an arcane area when DRAFTOBJECT is in play. It leaves us with very few options 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:29, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Since it had a CSD tag on it, leave that to take effect
 * Remove the CSD tag and send to AfD


 * Ok. Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't entirely sure/confident in my move to drafting, but the link you have sent me (WP:DRAFTOBJECT) solves the problem. Again, thanks for the clarification. :)  Tails   Wx  13:41, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Everyone has made this mistake, so please be unconcerned 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 15:58, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Has "everyone" actually made this mistake at least once? Tails   Wx  16:26, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I've made it more than once! I imagine everyone who has moved an article to draft often enough has a similar track record! 🇺🇦  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:28, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Haha-okay. I figured most experienced editors have not made this mistake after reading WP:DRAFTOBJECT and other WP:DRAFT policies. But I guess not! Thanks for your input :) Tails   Wx  16:33, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, ! Glad to help. :) Tails   Wx  23:30, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Nice user2 (talk) 23:35, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for being so helpful!

 * No problem! Thanks ! Tails   Wx  23:36, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I like making people feel special, and helping other people, sooooo, you're welcome again! Nice user2 (talk) 23:40, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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Question from HaileyAlver2012 on Hypothetical Axis victory in World War II (04:57, 12 February 2023)
Hello, I need help. --HaileyAlver2012 (talk) 04:57, 12 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey!, what do you need help with? Tails   Wx  12:50, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

LTA
Thanks for helping deal with that troll. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 22:01, 12 February 2023 (UTC)


 * No problem! Glad I could help. Tails   Wx  22:02, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, ! Glad to see you around again :) Tails   Wx  14:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Question from Clineb1 (18:39, 14 February 2023)
Hi! I have tried to update my boss's page 3 different times now, and my edits keep getting removed. What can I do differently to get the edits to permanently stick? --Clineb1 (talk) 18:39, 14 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey ! Just to confirm, is this IP you? It'll make it easier to answer your question by confirming. Tails   Wx  18:41, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It is not me. It is my boss! Clineb1 (talk) 18:42, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Neither of you should be editing the page directly as you both have a major WP:COI. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:44, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * How do I get the page updated then? It is currently inaccurate. Clineb1 (talk) 18:45, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Follow the instructions on WP:COI, make sure to disclose your connection, and make sure the updates are reliably sourced. Tails   Wx  18:58, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok!, you may want to read WP:COI. this edit made by your boss unexplained content removal, and as well as unsourced additions. Same goes for this edit as well. I would strongly suggested reading the COI, linked above. Tails   Wx  18:45, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Question from MorgansGirl (13:05, 15 February 2023)
Hi Tails! I’ve been trying to add a legit external link to a page but it was blocked. I’ve tried to follow the instructions to get it unblocked but they’re very unclear (I don’t know any HTML and wasn’t able to replicate the text in boxes that other uses had supplied). It’s very frustrating. Is this something you might be able to help with? Many thanks! MorgansGirl --MorgansGirl (talk) 13:05, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey there, ! It's most likely that the link is on the spam blacklist, or you could also try taking a look at Reliable sources/Perennial sources and see if the blocked external link is listed there. Happy editing! Tails   Wx  13:17, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * And I see you've asked for the link to be whitelisted here. Nice work! Tails   Wx  13:41, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Could you please re-request the link to be whitelisted, following the instructions exactly this time? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:11, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * , I assume you have my talk page on your watchlist, correct? Tails   Wx  14:15, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Yep. Probably because I've reverted vandalism at one point which will put your talk page on my watchlist permanently...might be why I have so many pages just on my watchlist. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:34, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

As per my original question to Tails, I did try to follow the instructions exactly, but having zero knowledge of coding, I didn’t understand them and couldn’t replicate the steps others seem to have taken… MorgansGirl (talk) 16:31, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * It's okay to not know much about coding. Just to clarify, what "instructions" are you referring to? Thanks! Tails   Wx  16:33, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The instructions on MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist for proposing an addition. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:35, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright. I'll follow up with some advice soon. Tails   Wx  16:35, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * You can copy and paste this:
 * == (Website's name, without the .org, .com, etc.) ==
 * </nowikI>
 * Explanation as to why the website should be whitelisted. The article where you are planning to place the source should also be mentioned and linked, using the brackets (for example, 2023 .)
 * Remove the wording in the parentheses, replace it with the correct links and external links. Without adequate explanation as to why the link should be whitelisted, I'm afraid the request may be declined. You got this, though! Tails   Wx  16:49, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * You don't need to have any knowledge of coding. I'm willing to fill it out for you if you give me the information I need. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 16:34, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Remove the wording in the parentheses, replace it with the correct links and external links. Without adequate explanation as to why the link should be whitelisted, I'm afraid the request may be declined. You got this, though! Tails   Wx  16:49, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * You don't need to have any knowledge of coding. I'm willing to fill it out for you if you give me the information I need. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 16:34, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

It was the stuff people had in boxes — I couldn’t see how to do that — copy and pasting didn’t work… Blaze that would be amazing, if you don’t mind — the website link I was trying to add is an online Performance Biography of the page’s subject, it’s at gareththomas-actor.com MorgansGirl (talk) 16:38, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I need these 3 things from you:
 * Explain why the site should be whitelisted.
 * Explain which articles would benefit from the addition of the link.
 * Provide the specific link to the page you're requesting be added ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 16:40, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

For some reason my replies aren’t posting. Never mind, I’ll leave it. Thanks for trying to help. MorgansGirl (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Ok that one did post. This system is beyond frustrating. I’ll give it one more go. MorgansGirl (talk) 17:05, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

The site should be whitelisted because it’s a Performance Biography created by a professional researcher who’s been given access to the actor’s personal papers MorgansGirl (talk) 17:06, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

The article that would benefit from the link is Gareth Thomas (actor) MorgansGirl (talk) 17:07, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

The link is gareththomas-actor dot com MorgansGirl (talk) 17:10, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * In other words, the website link is gareththomas-actor.com? Tails   Wx  17:13, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes! MorgansGirl (talk) 17:26, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * The data I gathered:
 * == (Gareth Thomas-Actor) ==
 * The site should be whitelisted because it’s a Performance Biography created by a professional researcher who’s been given access to the actor’s personal papers
 * For the WL Request link, is there a specific link you want to add, or is it just gareththomas-actor.com? And for the explanation, don't forget the article where you are planning to add the source! Tails   Wx  17:40, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The site should be whitelisted because it’s a Performance Biography created by a professional researcher who’s been given access to the actor’s personal papers
 * For the WL Request link, is there a specific link you want to add, or is it just gareththomas-actor.com? And for the explanation, don't forget the article where you are planning to add the source! Tails   Wx  17:40, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * For the WL Request link, is there a specific link you want to add, or is it just gareththomas-actor.com? And for the explanation, don't forget the article where you are planning to add the source! Tails   Wx  17:40, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

It’s just that website address, yes (I can’t type it in this chat, it won’t accept it for some reason) — does it need the https bit as well?

Thanks for your help, I’ve wasted so much time trying to get this sorted today. MorgansGirl (talk) 18:01, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * , you may add it, but usually it isn't necessary. Add the article you want the source to be added in the explanation, and you should be good to go! Tails   Wx  18:04, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

The thread won’t let me copy and paste anything. It says it’s adding my reply to the thread, but it doesn’t appear… I’ll have one more go, but then I’m going to have to give up. This shouldn’t be so hard…

I really appreciate the time you’ve taken to try to help me though! MorgansGirl (talk) 18:07, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * No problem :) Anyways, what is the technical problem? I might be able to help and fix it so that you can add the topic into the thread. Tails   Wx  18:10, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

No dice. I also see that others in the thread have their requests headed in Bold but I can’t see how to do that either. I just don’t have the time to figure this out. Shame… MorgansGirl (talk) 18:12, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * It's the bolding in the header. On second thought, if you have trouble adding the topic, should I go ahead and add it for you once I modify the explanation? Tails   Wx  18:16, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * , FYI: I've modified it:
 * The site should be whitelisted because it’s a Performance Biography created by a professional researcher who’s been given access to the actor’s personal papers, and to be a source in the article Gareth Thomas (actor).
 * The explanation should be good to go! Feel free to add the topic (and without encountering any technical issues ;)). Tails   Wx  18:25, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

If you could add it, I’d be so grateful. I’m just about ready to throw my computer out of the window… (I can’t see anything that allows text to be changed to Bold, even — I’m actually pretty competent with software, usually, but this system has me completely foxed) MorgansGirl (talk) 18:38, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * @MorgansGirl Hehe–"foxed". Anyway, is it a software issue, as you have stated? Or is it a Wikipedia-technical issue? I'll add the topic soon. Tails   Wx  18:41, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

I’m afraid I can’t tell which it is — I’m doing it via Safari — but whenever I try to type in anything resembling a link, my reply vanishes into the ether. I’m guessing this may mean there’s some kind of firewall at the Wikipedia end that’s swallowing my posts… MorgansGirl (talk) 18:46, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hm, maybe it's a case of WP:VPT. You could file a report there, or once again, I can file one for you if there are technical issues occurring again. Tails   Wx  18:54, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Ha! I finally got it to post, at the exact same time you did! But I think mine has somehow added itself as a reply to the previous post. Oh my.

Hopefully it will be cleared, then I’ll have the fun of actually trying to add it to the page… though I’m guessing (hoping!) that will be more straightforward.

Thanks for your amazing mentoring today! I don’t think I’ll be trying to make any more edits for a while (you’ll no doubt be relieved to read!).. MorgansGirl (talk) 19:23, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * , no problem. Glad to help as your two-tailed mentor! Oh, and BTW, I'll remove it, as it'll become a bit confusing, though I'm glad it finally worked! At least we didn't run into a edit conflict... could've been worse. Tails   Wx  19:33, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Hahaha thanks again — I promise I’m not usually so hopeless! MorgansGirl (talk) 19:35, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Don't worry–I agree. Thanks for your cooperation; feel free to ask any questions by pinging me or asking on my talk page (here). Again, thanks! Tails   Wx  19:44, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Question from ChronicTEncephalopathy on 2021 United States Capitol car attack (13:53, 16 February 2023)
Hello,

Noah Green was diagnosed with Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE) after death. How do you add this information? --ChronicTEncephalopathy (talk) 13:53, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey ! If there is a reliable source for the diagnosis, you may add it at the "Response" section. Tails   Wx  13:57, 16 February 2023 (UTC)