User talk:Taking Out The Trash/Archive 1

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Happy editing! Drmies (talk) 02:58, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

August 2021
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Hello Taking Out The Trash. Thanks for patrolling new pages – it's a very important task! I'm just letting you know, however, that there is consensus that we shouldn't tag pages as lacking context (CSD A1) and/or content (CSD A3) moments after they are created, as you did at Roberto Pietri. It's usually best to wait at least 10–15 minutes for more content to be added if the page is very short, and the articles should not be marked as patrolled. Tagging such pages in a very short space of time may drive away well-meaning contributors, which is not good for Wikipedia. Attack pages (G10), patent nonsense (G1), copyright violations (G12) and pure vandalism/blatant hoaxes (G3) should of course still be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks.  — twotwofourtysix (My talk page and contributions) 03:19, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Other accounts
What other accounts have you used at Wikipedia?--Bbb23 (talk) 12:08, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing. Plus, I'm been asking myself whether your user name isn't a violation. Drmies (talk) 13:54, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Only one other named account, dormant since 2017. Plus a handful of IPs over the years. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 14:07, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't believe you, but putting that aside for the moment, you need to use meaningful edit summaries when you edit; your current edit summaries are not only unhelpful but borderline disruptive, regardless of the merits of your edits.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:50, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I thought those summaries were better just "rvv" but I guess not. Seems like folks don't have any sense of humor. Oh well. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 16:35, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Why this?
In this edit your edit summary was simply rvv (presumably "reverting vandalism"), but the changes by the IP editor were not vandalism, and were, in fact, a somewhat useful update of mere list data to more detailed tabular data. Why the revert? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:25, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks like I might have reverted one revision too deep - I was trying to simply revert the section blanking. I've undone my action for now. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 12:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * This edit of yours is also not reverting vandlism. Its actually borderline disruptive if considered with the edit summary. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:03, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Jfoend
Well, as it turns out, things moved more quickly than I expected. The spam is deleted already. However, my invitation to contact me if you see any more trouble from the same source still stands. JBW (talk) 19:07, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

BLPPROD
Please note that WP:BLPPRODs can only be used for living people - cf your edit to Merwyn Edwin Castle, who isn't. Ingratis (talk) 04:35, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Grace F. Edwards
Hello, Taking Out The Trash,

You are a very new editor and are too inexperienced to be moving pages around, especially drafts of articles that are being worked on by other editors or determining what is "trash" and what is not.

If you have a previous account, you need to disclose this on your User page. If you have questions about policy and process on Wikipedia, please bring your concerns to the Teahouse where experienced editors can address them. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 03:44, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I did have a previous account (see a few sections above)... this account is a WP:CLEANSTART and if I am interpreting the policy correctly, I am not required to declare the previous account. I have more experience and background than the age of my user account alone would suggest. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 15:58, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

List of Old Wives Tales
Just going to let you know that me adding an AFD tag to List of Old Wives Tales accidentally replaced your PROD tag. It looks like you added it while I was adding the AFD tag with Twinkle, and it was replaced within seconds of yours. Waddles 🗩 🖉 20:20, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * No worries. Twinkle is pretty bad at handling edit conflicts. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 17:32, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Sambaa Siva


The article Sambaa Siva has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. Liz Read! Talk! 19:33, 13 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, Taking Out The Trash,
 * I want to explain this notice. You moved this article to Draft space and tagged this page for deletion. But before it could be deleted, an editor turned it back into an article. Since you did the initial move, you are credited as the page creator and that's who Twinkle sends the notice to. I hope this explains it. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 02:32, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Username concern
Hi, your username may cause offense to good-faith contributors whose edits are reverted by you: They may think that you consider their contribution "trash". This concern is not serious enough to require a change, but if you agree (perhaps one day, even), you may like to request a username change at Special:GlobalRenameRequest at any time. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:10, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

The fact that you haven't even bothered to reply to this comment (even with a "fuck off") leaves a nasty taste in the mouth, and leads me to believe that you are not interested in cooperating with others. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:49, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't feel that a response was necessary, considering that ToBeFree specifically indicated that my username was not in violation of policy. I read the message, and took the feedback on board. I've thought about changing the name, but I just can't think of anything else that I like (and I don't have email anyway, so I can't use the form linked even if I wanted to). Taking Out The Trash (talk) 13:04, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Rollback granted
Hi Taking Out The Trash. After reviewing your request, I have&#32;temporarily [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3ATaking_Out_The_Trash enabled] rollback on your account&#32;until 2021-10-17. Keep in mind these things when using rollback: If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! GeneralNotability (talk) 00:03, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
 * Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
 * Rollback should never be used to edit war.
 * If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
 * Use common sense.

Admin help
Active long-term abuse case here. Blocked as part of a rangeblock, but this particular IP needs talk page access revoked (likely via semi protection of the page) ASAP. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 15:47, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Handled by . — LauritzT (talk) 17:19, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Tagging pages for deletion
Hello, Taking Out The Trash,

Just a reminder that every time you tag a page for deletion (CSD, PROD, AFD/RFD/TFD/etc.), you must place a notice on the talk page of the page creator informing them that the page has been tagged and the reason for the deletion. Otherwise, they have no way of knowing what happened. You must do this if you are tagging pages for deletion, it is part of the deletion process. If you make use of Twinkle and set your Preferences to "Notify page creator", then Twinkle will post the notices for you which makes things convenient.

Also, if you come across a page like Template:Umayyad Victory, a page that has been created in the wrong name space, the correct action to take is not to tag the page for deletion but to move the page to the correct name space and then post a note to the page creator to let them know where they can find the page. Please do this in the future. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 21:35, 21 September 2021 (UTC)


 * If you are already using Twinkle, make sure you have all CSD criteria boxes checked in your Preferences. I think sometimes Twinkle, by default, only has a few CSD criteria, like A7 and G11, checked. They need to be all checked for Twinkle to regularly post notices. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 21:43, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I thought that I did have all of the notifications enabled, except for the ones that don't actually have a notification template associated with them (G5, G6, G7, U1, U2, R2 to name a few). I double check the preferences panel to be sure, though. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 11:49, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

And, on a related topic, please. The creator was obviously still working on that article, so you should have waited until that process was finished before deciding what to do. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:42, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll admit that I am perhaps more liberal than some with the application of sticky PROD tags. However, it is my belief that nobody should be creating a BLP without sources. All BLPs need to have at least one source immediately upon creation, period. If at least one source isn't available, create it in draft space or user space and then move it to main space once you have the source. "Adding sources in future edits" doesn't cut it on BLPs that are live in main space. My intent of sticky PROD tag applications is to alert the author that they need to add a source immediately, before they do anything else. Judging by the fact that most of the articles I've tagged were subsequently referenced in a short time, including this most recent example, my approach seems to be working. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 13:04, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

article about Peter Graigs
greetings ..I need some tips and help ..thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by G13mp (talk • contribs) 14:29, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

WP:UAA
Usernames are shared across all the WMF's projects. Some of those projects permit corporate usernames. Until a user edits this project their username is not subject to this project's restrictions. Cabayi (talk) 16:19, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Some projects allow corporate usernames? Wow, that's news to me. Always thought that corporate usernames were prohibited globally by the WMF. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 13:45, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * c:Commons:Username policy - "Use of the names of organizations is allowed on Commons only if you verify your account, proving that you are or represent the respective organization."
 * de:Hilfe:Benutzerkonto anlegen - "Du kannst verifiziert unter dem Namen einer Organisation, eines bekannten Produktes oder einer berühmten bzw. relevanten Persönlichkeit arbeiten." Google translation "You can work verified under the name of an organization, a well-known product or a famous or relevant person."
 * There may be more, but those two serve to show the point. Happy editing. Cabayi (talk) 14:00, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Dado Coletti
Good morning to you, I have read and I was just about to find the way to improve it. Now it seems to be better, can you help me in case? Sure of your answer and waiting to hear from you I wish you a good continuation and a lot of cordiality. a greeting from Coreca and see you soon!--Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (talk) 15:05, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Admin Help
Please get rid of this blatantly inappropriate and egregiously offensive edit summary, seen here. Thank you. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 15:35, 14 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Done by . Katietalk 16:50, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

October 2021
Taking Out The Trash, I have granted you IPBE for the duration of that IP range block. --Yamla (talk) 19:22, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Editor warnings
Hello, Taking Out The Trash,

You've been doing some great work on Wikipedia which is appreciated but I was surprised by the warning message you left on the talk page of The article and redirect creator. You state that if they make one more inappropriate page (like their silly redirects) they will be blocked. This would be fine to say if you were an administrator but you are still a relatively new editor and you can't follow through on this warning. Please do not threaten editors with blocks, it's always better for non-admin editors to say that another editor MAY be blocked than they WILL be blocked. Thanks again for all the work you do on the project! Liz Read! Talk! 20:26, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The warning I left did indeed say "May be blocked without further warning". All of the Twinkle Level 4 warnings are like that as far as I know. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 20:30, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Pending changes reviewer granted
Hello. Your account has been granted the "pending changes reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages.

Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

See also: Anarchyte ( talk ) 11:33, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Reviewing pending changes, the guideline on reviewing
 * Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes
 * Protection policy, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators.

Admin Help
Parag Agrawal needs semi protection ASAP. Almost nonstop vandalism from various IPs. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 16:45, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * File a report at WP:RFPP.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:46, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * It's already there (or at least Twinkle says it is) but this is urgent and needs immediate attention. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 16:47, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * You did the right thing, posting at ANI. RFPP reports can sometimes languish for half a day, and the page is obviously getting lots of views. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:45, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert
Thanks for the heads up re: the IP that was blanking their own UTP. I'm familiar with the guideline related to users blanking their own talk pages, but in this case I just completely spaced out. (I didn't stop to take in what was going on, so I thought the user was blanking the article again, not their talk page.) I'm glad you were paying attention, because I sure wasn't! :) Larry Hockett (Talk) 22:36, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

List of North Korean websites
Hi, I already messaged the deleting admin about this at User talk:Bbb23. Long story short, I believe the A7 criteria is easily surmountable by writing an adequate lead section. I was already drafting a talk page message about list inclusion criteria in my head (literally while taking out the trash, I kid you not) before the article was tagged. But before exhausting myself, I just wanted to hear your point of view. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:08, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree with the deleting admin that I can't imagine what would make such a list notable. Even if the speedy was on the edge, I would have definitely WP:PRODed the page as WP:LISTCRUFT. It's going to take much more than a lede section to demonstrate notability. Generally very little web content is considered suitable for inclusion. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 21:42, 12 December 2021 (UTC)