User talk:Talfurn

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Hello, Talfurn, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! Novaseminary (talk) 03:31, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
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Please do not copy sources without attribution
Your addition to Becky Garrison has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. The sentences appear to have been copied from http://www.beckygarrison.com/about.html. And please do not edit war (WP:EW). And you might want to read WP:COI in case you are affiliated with the subject of the article. Otherwise, happy editing! Novaseminary (talk) 03:31, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Your deletion of my addition to Becky Garrison is a bogus move. Your claim that it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder is bogus. No copywritten content was added. You should probably read (WP:EW) as well as WP:COI as you seem to have a personal issue with the subject. Talfurn (talk) 11:42, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Also, direct links were provided to show that she writes for those publications. If that is a problem, then leave the links the point to the list of the articles she has written for individual publications. If you have a WP:COI you should not be editing the page. You are hurting the integrity of Wiki. Talfurn (talk) 11:49, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Regardless, you copied the text from the author's website which even has a copyright notice. And I am not doubting that the facts are true, but they are borderline original research based on primary sources, and as copied from the author's wn website, raise Wp:UNDUE issues. If you have a secondary source that puts this in context, cite it. Novaseminary (talk) 04:11, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

3RR warning
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Becky Garrison. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively. In particular, the three-revert rule states that: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. If you revert again, I may be forced to report you to the edit war noticeboard which could lead to a block. this seems like a dumb thing to get blocked over to me. Novaseminary (talk) 04:11, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

3RR warning, Novaseminary
Novaseminary you are incorrect. Nothing was copied from her website. As a matter of fact, she lists additional publications that I didn't list as I could not find proof of her claimed writings. I suggest you reverse your deletion or I will have to file a dispute against your COI. I'm sorry that you seem to have a personal issue with Garrison. Talfurn (talk) 00:50, 25 August 2011
 * I have no issue with Garrison, or even necessarily with the facts you want to insert. I added yet another (positive) review of her as a source just hours ago. My problem is not with her, but with your (and the various IPs') execution here on WP. The language you added was a direct quote from her website changing ”Becky” to ”Garrison”. But you are missing the point. To establish what facts are worthy of inclusion in an article about a notable subject (there is a lower standard for any particular fact than there is for inclusion of an article about a particular subject in the first place), we need reliable secondary sources. Primary sources (which you cited) and sources affiliated with the subject (which you quoted) are fine for some things. But we need to know which of her writing gigs is important according to authors of RSs (not her or you) . Her favorite color might be blue. But before you add that fact, you'd need to cite RSs to indicate why we care. Novaseminary (talk) 13:49, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Novaseminary, what are you even talking about?
You're having trouble thinking, Novaseminary. It's not copied from her website. She lists things that I did not list. These are significant publications. If you're confused about that, maybe you should look up their entries. What is this "various IPs" garbage? I have one IP. It hasn't changed within the span of a couple days. You clearly have some sort of grudge with Garrison. But that's fine, I've warned you now, so I guess I'll submit a dispute since you refuse to leave your bias out of Wikipedia. Talfurn (talk) 10:20, 25 August 2011
 * I am sorry you feel that way. Perhaps you submitting a "dispute" would be the most productive way to proceed. You might want to read wp:DR for more on that, and you should probably lay out your position on the article talk page. Novaseminary (talk) 14:24, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Talfurn (talk) 10:30, 25 August 2011